ozcancrasher13 - 2014-01-08 8:27 PM  It's just being put in.  Randa was explaining it the other day.  The way she explained it is that it is to encourage the rodeos to sanction their rodeos CPRA so that the rodeos will get all the cowboys/cowgirls who are running at the CFR to enter.

casualdust07 - 2014-01-08 8:47 PM

I have no idea what is going on with the PRCA and these cowboys. I have no idea what they asked the PRCA to do or not do. Maybe the PRCA is doing the right thing, maybe it's not. I would really like to know WHAT they wanted to change, not just the vague things they are saying.


My only concern is this, when they talk about how people come to see the top professionals in their sport, like THAT'S the reason why people are coming to all the rodeos. Ehhh, part of it. But it's not the main reason, except for the NFR when you wait all year to see WHO is making it.

I personally believe the reason why MOST spectators come to MOST rodeos except the NFR, is for the concert after the rodeo and the carnival/fair activities.

You don't even know who is entered at MOST of the rodeos except for the handful of super big rodeos where they limit the top 50, or invite people and then post it on their website. The only way to know who is up what day and when is if you get your hands on a trade list. People come to the rodeos anyway, not knowing who will be there.

I am all for change if it is fair and good for all members. I still have goals of trying to make it as far to the top as I can in rodeo… I don't know where my limit will be. I hope whatever the change is, it doesn't make people like me feel like it's no longer a possibility to do that. For all I know, this could be in our favor too. Or it couldn't.. I would *really* like to know what they want changed…



ETA- I am not saying people aren't coming to see the rodeo itself or the cowboys. I know as far as we are concerned, when we go to rodeos to watch, that is ALL I care about. But just seeing the people I see spectating at rodeos and I am there, there's a lot of people who are not involved with rodeo personally, who are just coming to watch, that don't keep track of standings, and are just wanting to have a good time that weekend.

dhdqhllc - 2014-01-09 3:06 PM  Wow....nobody involved in this has a clue or direction or anything...and obviously knows nothing about PR, business or logic....except LVE......i think TXBO and the boys would love to have these guys sit up to the game as well.......more easy money now that we've got Stressman's....lol

TXBO - 2014-01-09 3:15 PM LMAO!  I'd love to see the proposal for changing the 18 bylaws. 

dhdqhllc - 2014-01-09 3:18 PM and then to think the board would just vote to accept all of them right then and there.........wth...... 

ozcancrasher13 - 2014-01-09 7:48 PM  Crawford said the NFR draws the top 120 cowboys, but their voices are not heard at the PRCA board meetings. Overall, there were 5,071 PRCA contestant card holders in 2013.



This statement is what bothers me.  They are really only concerned about themselves.  They are trying to sell it that they are wanting to make rodeo better for the fans and all contestants, but I think this comes down to the top 20-25 in each event.  



There are a lot more cowboys/cowgirls who go to 25-30 rodeos a year than ones who go to 80+ and "do it for a living".



 

bingo - 2014-01-08 6:42 PM "we believe that fans deserve the right to see the very best cowboys and cowgirls compete for a true championship." This quote was taken from above post by "Horsepoor1". And sometimes the BEST cowboys and cowgirls are NOT necessarily those who can afford to get into the limited entry rodeos. Limited rodeos prevent many from competing at the NFR, while letting in other competitors who may not be as exciting to watch. I think the "Slot Races" at barrel races are a PRIME example. Where else can you win $100,000 for running a 2D time? ANSWER: SLOT RACES!! WHY? Because they are a LIMITED BARREL RACE. Are they the fastest times in the arena during that whole weekend of events? NO, often times not. And where else can you win $50,000.00 on one barrel racing run?? ANSWER: Closed/limited entry rodeo like Houston, Calgary.... I think it was REAL obvious at this year's NFR in the barrel race. ONE limited entry rodeo with a huge purse prevented a competitor from making the NFR, by allowing in a competitor into the standings who would have NOT made the NFR except for that one win. Just that ONE rodeo did this. IMO limited rodeo's do NOT work in favor of the MAJORITY of competitors. If it doesn't favor the MAJORITY of contestants, it does NOT help promote the sport. Does limiting the "Super Stars" in the eyes of rodeo fans work best for promoting rodeo??? HHHmmmm.... That is a totally different question. I have to do some real thinking on that....

horsepoor1 - 2014-01-09 3:01 PM Has everyone seen this? the most interesting thing to me is in the comments -Lynn McKenzie's husband commented. very interesting 1/8/2014 On behalf of the cowboys and cowgirls who issued yesterday’s statement, we want to thank everyone for their support. We understand that everyone would like further answers and details. We ask for your patience as we continue to move forward during this exciting time. We also would like everyone to understand that our original plan was not to form a new organization. We put everything we had into working over the Christmas break to try and create some meaningful change within the PRCA structure that would have given the top contestants a direct voice on the PRCA board. We want to be more involved with the direction of our sport. This new effort resulted only after our proposal to the PRCA Board was rejected. As a result we are still in the early stages of formation. Our purpose is to create a model that is better for the fans, committees and top contestants in the sport, but that also has a fair process for people to work their way to the top. Our group is committed to protecting the integrity of the sport of professional rodeo and the meaning of a gold buckle by making sure there is one, true championship. Some people have expressed an opinion that the current National Finals Rodeo is “just a rodeo” and “it doesn’t really matter which cowboys you put out there.” We believe people that express that opinion do not understand the loyalty of true rodeo fans. We know that true rodeo fans respect the talent and drive it takes to make it to the top of this great sport. We ask you to step up, as we have, and let your voice be heard. It did not work when the NFL tried to have games with replacement players and while we respect every contestant who rodeos, we believe that fans deserve the right to see the very best cowboys and cowgirls compete for a true championship. We are equally committed to making sure that rodeo remains a true sport with a level playing field that allows advancement through the ranks. Know that we are taking this effort seriously and have involved smart professionals with a strong background in both rodeo and professional sports. You would not see the names quoted in the release supporting this effort if we did not believe it was being done in a thoughtful and first-class way. Also, we want to make clear that this is an effort that begins with the 2015 season. No one is talking about any disruption to the 2014 season. For that reason, we ask you to understand that rather than throw out details and get bogged down in an open debate on everything wrong with the sport of professional rodeo, we are working systematically to build a system that advances the sport and we look forward to working with everyone who wants to see the sport move to the next level. Thank you again for your support, trust and patience and please join us in letting everyone know that the cowboys and cowgirls do matter. The Organizing Top Cowboys and Cowgirls

WYOracer - 2014-01-09 9:21 PM  

CrossCreek - 2014-01-09 9:29 PM


 Yes, Murray, it looks that way to me, as well...thank you for putting words to my confusion... I agree...

WYOracer - 2014-01-09 9:41 PM

 What I am wondering how do they expect to fill these big 10 day rodeos that they are planning to what steal away from PRCA with 25 contestants?  The people coming to Cheyenne sitting in those seats don't know who they're cheering for (of course many do and are rodeo people and year round fans), I've watched rounds in the perf where not one girl ran a time that placed in the rodeo and didn't recognize a single name but those people cheered and rooted like they were cheering Sherry Cervi to a new title!  They are there because that rodeo is so historic not just to see Trevor Brazil or whoever else MIGHT be up that day.