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| Bug Is Alive - 2014-02-13 7:38 AM CanCan - 2014-02-12 7:11 PM I can't believe there are so many yeses. I didn't know so many rich folk frequented the board! I hope I wouldn't even if I could. I remember being at a penning years ago and noticing a lady's spur straps. I can't imagine the cost. They were big and blingy and eye-catching to say the least. Everything she and her horse wore was first rate. Crosses on everything. It may be small-minded, but I remember wondering if God would be more pleased if she gave all that tack money to a good cause. Are you a Democrat?(joke). Spreading the wealth mentality.
I would hate to add up the cost of all my saddles, tack, and especially duplicate bits, multitude of saddle pads (2 good pads will total $700). I buy what appeals to me, and like some of the others here, I don't spend money on myself, it's mainly for the horses. When you add in truck, trailer, vet bills, feed, entry fees (many weekends over $700) for a hobby that consumes your every spare minute, a $700 tack set seems small by comparison.
To each his own. If you have the money or work hard, or save hard, it's your choice.
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Location: Dubach, LA | I've been cooped up too long in the house. Seriously, I did qualify my statements by admitting that I was small-minded and this might be unique to my region. I guess I should have added unique to my life-experiences. I taught school in poverty regions for 17 years. True: the few kids that had "normal" lives tended to be selfish; they were very unlikely to share. Also true: the poor kids shared everything they had.
I'm super sorry for offending. I should keep my thoughts to myself. This is usually what happens when I think out loud. Sorry for the struck nerves on the board. It is your money. You may spend it however you like.
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| CanCan - 2014-02-13 8:53 AM
I've been cooped up too long in the house. Seriously, I did qualify my statements by admitting that I was small-minded and this might be unique to my region. I guess I should have added unique to my life-experiences. I taught school in poverty regions for 17 years. True: the few kids that had "normal" lives tended to be selfish; they were very unlikely to share. Also true: the poor kids shared everything they had.
I'm super sorry for offending. I should keep my thoughts to myself. This is usually what happens when I think out loud. Sorry for the struck nerves on the board. It is your money. You may spend it however you like.
Your thoughts are just as important and are allowed just like everyone that said "yes". Not everyone has to think a like and agree and no one should be battered for it. Your life experiences have led you to view things differently than others, there for your opinion is different, and it's OK! Although I might spend it if I had it I can understand those that think it's crazy. At this moment in my life, I think it's crazy to spend that much. Give me a few years and a few extra dollars and my view may be different.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | CanCan - 2014-02-13 8:53 AM I've been cooped up too long in the house. Seriously, I did qualify my statements by admitting that I was small-minded and this might be unique to my region. I guess I should have added unique to my life-experiences. I taught school in poverty regions for 17 years. True: the few kids that had "normal" lives tended to be selfish; they were very unlikely to share. Also true: the poor kids shared everything they had.
I'm super sorry for offending. I should keep my thoughts to myself. This is usually what happens when I think out loud. Sorry for the struck nerves on the board. It is your money. You may spend it however you like.
Just look in the mirror next time you decide to judge others before thinking, and ask yourself if you are being a hypocrite.
Unless you are a monk or a nun, my guess is that you have a few excesses of your own......starting with a horse, possible pickup, trailer, clothes, jewelry, etc... Somewhere I'm sure you have a few things that could be considered unnecessary. None of us is 100% frugal all the time.
Then there is this persistent idea that poor people are best served when something is given to them...ie: "charity". While in certain circumstances charity is necessary and honorable, the best way a person can create opportunities for "upward mobility" is through promoting commerce. That is the ultimate, long term solution for the vast majority of needy people. If I am at a barrel race and I see some enterprising young lady selling reins that she made by hand, I will go out of my way to buy a set or two from her, if they are fairly decent. A person can always use an extra set of reins, plus you are rewarding her for her willingness to be productive and innovative. If that same person is sitting outside the arena entrance with a coffee can asking for money for whatever, and I give her $10, all I am doing is rewarding her for sitting on her ass, and encouraging her to continue down that path.
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| CanCan - 2014-02-13 8:53 AM
I've been cooped up too long in the house. Seriously, I did qualify my statements by admitting that I was small-minded and this might be unique to my region. I guess I should have added unique to my life-experiences. I taught school in poverty regions for 17 years. True: the few kids that had "normal" lives tended to be selfish; they were very unlikely to share. Also true: the poor kids shared everything they had.
I'm super sorry for offending. I should keep my thoughts to myself. This is usually what happens when I think out loud. Sorry for the struck nerves on the board. It is your money. You may spend it however you like.
Your experiences are valid, but is a small sample size. Not all poverty stricken children share everything, and not all well provided for children are selfish.
The part that has my back up is the part what it comes across as since I had a good childhood, then I must be selfish. And since I buy 700+ tack sets I must be selfish.
I personally believe in quality and craftsmanship. I believe you get what you pay for, and believe I would rather help out hard working tax paying fellow barrel racers, then supporting big named companies who hire illegals, pay them well below minimum wage, and are getting tax breaks from the government.
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| I have bought a set for around $450 and I'm fairly poor lol but my old mare won the money at a rodeo where she took first at 23 years old so I justified it by saying she earned it and deserved it |
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| CanCan - 2014-02-13 7:53 AM I've been cooped up too long in the house. Seriously, I did qualify my statements by admitting that I was small-minded and this might be unique to my region. I guess I should have added unique to my life-experiences. I taught school in poverty regions for 17 years. True: the few kids that had "normal" lives tended to be selfish; they were very unlikely to share. Also true: the poor kids shared everything they had.
I'm super sorry for offending. I should keep my thoughts to myself. This is usually what happens when I think out loud. Sorry for the struck nerves on the board. It is your money. You may spend it however you like.
Whats funny about this is I WAS one of the "poor kids". Single mom with 5 kids... we had nothing, but we have all made our own destiny. My brothers and I are not rich (well, my one brother is), but we are comforable and we've worked our hineys off to get where we are today. If I (or anyone else) want to spend $700 on a tack set, I assure you that I, and my horse deserve it. Now, I look at the other "poor kids" and its half and half who has gone out and worked their hineys off to make something for themselves, and the ones who are still whining about being poor, but are reproducing like crazy. Funny thing, one of my "poor" friends has a little girl who she uses the food bank to feed, but she can afford a new hairdo and nails on a monthly basis(she learned my opinion on this when trying to guilt me into lending her money).
Sorry, no sympathy or guilt here... Im more than willing to volunteer my time (and do so on a regular basis), but I will not give my hard earned money away to someone who isn't willing to work as hard as I have... the government does that for me.
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Location: Dubach, LA | HotbearLVR - 2014-02-13 9:35 AM CanCan - 2014-02-13 8:53 AM I've been cooped up too long in the house. Seriously, I did qualify my statements by admitting that I was small-minded and this might be unique to my region. I guess I should have added unique to my life-experiences. I taught school in poverty regions for 17 years. True: the few kids that had "normal" lives tended to be selfish; they were very unlikely to share. Also true: the poor kids shared everything they had.
I'm super sorry for offending. I should keep my thoughts to myself. This is usually what happens when I think out loud. Sorry for the struck nerves on the board. It is your money. You may spend it however you like.
Just look in the mirror next time you decide to judge others before thinking, and ask yourself if you are being a hypocrite.
Unless you are a monk or a nun, my guess is that you have a few excesses of your own......starting with a horse, possible pickup, trailer, clothes, jewelry, etc... Somewhere I'm sure you have a few things that could be considered unnecessary. None of us is 100% frugal all the time.
Then there is this persistent idea that poor people are best served when something is given to them...ie: "charity". While in certain circumstances charity is necessary and honorable, the best way a person can create opportunities for "upward mobility" is through promoting commerce. That is the ultimate, long term solution for the vast majority of needy people. If I am at a barrel race and I see some enterprising young lady selling reins that she made by hand, I will go out of my way to buy a set or two from her, if they are fairly decent. A person can always use an extra set of reins, plus you are rewarding her for her willingness to be productive and innovative. If that same person is sitting outside the arena entrance with a coffee can asking for money for whatever, and I give her $10, all I am doing is rewarding her for sitting on her ass, and encouraging her to continue down that path.
That's why my willingness to buy a few expensive tack pieces is doing a few people some good.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I married a Sugar Daddy and if I want a $700 tack set by George I'll buy it.....that is all.
In all reality I had my tax appt yesterday. When the totals are black and white right in front of your face and you see exactly what is spent you do realize that barrel racing is most definately a luxury. |
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| Bottom line, you can't judge a book by it's cover or a horse by what trailer it rolls up in, or a person for what they dress their horse in. What was insulting is to imply that those who identified with your statement did not give or were not charitable and nothing could be furthur from the truth. |
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Location: South Dakota | If I spent $700 on a tack set I guarantee you the very next day I'd find one I liked better. As it is, the people I am around daily (non-horse) would croak if they knew the amount of money I spend on my horses and that is just for the basics. I think God made us barrel racers a little different anyway!
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Location: Benton City, WA | CYA Ranch - 2014-02-13 9:39 AM I married a Sugar Daddy and if I want a $700 tack set by George I'll buy it.....that is all.
In all reality I had my tax appt yesterday. When the totals are black and white right in front of your face and you see exactly what is spent you do realize that barrel racing is most definately a luxury.
Couldn't agree more!! Barrel racing (or even owning a horse) is most definitely a luxury.
I don't have a sugar daddy, but if I want to buy my horse something nice, by gawd I will!!!!
Interestingly, I drive a 99' pickup that I have had since I was 16- should I be judging others for spending the $$ to buy new pickups? No, of course not. But those cost a lot more than $700.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | I donate $ when I can and when I feel it will be put to good use, or for something I believe in sometimes the percentage that actually goes to the cause makes me cringe. It could it be more... but choose to donate more of my time as well. I have taken part on numerous habitat for humanity builds, helped organized and run local events and help wherever and whenever I can. I enjoy some expensive things and save for them to and work hard for what I have. I hope I don't sound rude but I find nothing wrong with what I do.
Eta : I am working on a business plan right now and part of it is giving back. I am hoping if I get it going to start a scholarship for local kids to succeed, as well as some other community bonuses to help locally. Where I live there aren't many jobs and poverty is high and how I plan on infusing the money back in will benefit people differently.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Timber Creek - 2014-02-13 12:01 PM If I spent $700 on a tack set I guarantee you the very next day I'd find one I liked better. As it is, the people I am around daily (non-horse) would croak if they knew the amount of money I spend on my horses and that is just for the basics. I think God made us barrel racers a little different anyway!
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Location: Dubach, LA | ndiehl - 2014-02-13 12:12 PM I donate $ when I can and when I feel it will be put to good use, or for something I believe in sometimes the percentage that actually goes to the cause makes me cringe. It could it be more... but choose to donate more of my time as well. I have taken part on numerous habitat for humanity builds, helped organized and run local events and help wherever and whenever I can. I enjoy some expensive things and save for them to and work hard for what I have. I hope I don't sound rude but I find nothing wrong with what I do. Eta : I am working on a business plan right now and part of it is giving back. I am hoping if I get it going to start a scholarship for local kids to succeed, as well as some other community bonuses to help locally. Where I live there aren't many jobs and poverty is high and how I plan on infusing the money back in will benefit people differently.
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Location: Buffalo, TX | CanCan - 2014-02-13 8:53 AM I've been cooped up too long in the house. Seriously, I did qualify my statements by admitting that I was small-minded and this might be unique to my region. I guess I should have added unique to my life-experiences. I taught school in poverty regions for 17 years. True: the few kids that had "normal" lives tended to be selfish; they were very unlikely to share. Also true: the poor kids shared everything they had.
I'm super sorry for offending. I should keep my thoughts to myself. This is usually what happens when I think out loud. Sorry for the struck nerves on the board. It is your money. You may spend it however you like.
Maybe the best way for some of those who need more money or feel resentful would be to learn the craft of making these beautiful sets and then selling them for $700 to the ones who can afford them?.....just a thought....... |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | CYA Ranch - 2014-02-13 11:39 AM I married a Sugar Daddy and if I want a $700 tack set by George I'll buy it.....that is all.
In all reality I had my tax appt yesterday. When the totals are black and white right in front of your face and you see exactly what is spent you do realize that barrel racing is most definately a luxury.
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Location: Down the Gravel Road near the Missouri River, SD | I seen this ad your talking about and I do appreciate good work but I have to justify a purchase like that to more then myself at the end of the day.. I do have to say 'you lucky woman" whoever has that option.
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Location: Down the Gravel Road near the Missouri River, SD | with that being said...I have full intentions of ordering myself a G-G barrel saddle where the bottom dollar on a basic is $1900. I dont barrel race for a living, I dont train anything but my own but I dang sure love the way the sit a horse and I think they would be pretty comfy to ride in. lol
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