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Location: So. California | ThreeCorners - 2014-04-29 2:53 PM You all should be calling these producers and not just asking, but putting the pressure on. They need to be responsable along with ALL horse owners. It's rediculas the selfishness and irrisponsability I see from the mid west people. Be HORSEMEN!! Stay home, let this outbreak die and in a month you will all be back at it and it will be nothing but a distant memory. If they keep holding shows, and you keep hauling, it will go on and on and on and then the Govt. Dept Of Ag will shut us all down for alot longer and we will forver be monitored greatly. I sure dont want to be babysat because the mid west couldnt pull their big boy and girl panties up and go camping or spend time with family for a month instead.
Getting the government involved is a scary thought!!!
If they don't get this under control now, it may start affecting some of our bigger races that attract contestants from the midwest. Is saving $500 worth it? If your horse catches this virus and you are stuck with a huge vet bill or worse yet, euthanasia decision? All it takes is that everyone stay home for 30 days....
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 6:16 PM I didn't realize they have a backup date for the R2R. I guess I can't understand why they don't play it safe and move the race back, if that's the case. After all I've been saying about this virus, I would be a hypocrite to turn around and go. I'm staying home.
Unfortunately, greed knows no boundary…..MANY expressed the same opinions (to postpone) prior to the Lincoln event….and guess what….they were correct….horses WERE infected.
NOW is the time for the producers to put their greed aside and think of the welfare of the entire horse community. In the last big outbreak, it was stifled because producers did the RIGHT thing and postponed events.
eta: OR, at the very least, let contestants withdraw and refund entry fees of those who choose to be safe.
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Location: relocated to Texas | LabRat - 2014-04-30 11:53 AM Not happy with the producers who chose not to postpone. "The show must go on" attitude is quite irresponsible. But ultimately it's the competitor's decision to enter or not. And if several are choosing to turn-out, why wouldn't the producers decide to postpone and possibly have a better turnout later in the year? Doesn't make sense to me.
I agree with this. If enough competitiors would get together and petition the producer to postpone the show, maybe something would be done. I have produced big barrel events and I know the work and money that goes into doing so. But, I think if the producers would even refund part of the entry fee, people would understand why they couldn't get a full refund and feel better about it. They have to stop having these shows or this will never be contained. I am worried about several friends who had their horses at the BRF. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | NJJ - 2014-04-30 5:41 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 6:16 PM I didn't realize they have a backup date for the R2R. I guess I can't understand why they don't play it safe and move the race back, if that's the case. After all I've been saying about this virus, I would be a hypocrite to turn around and go. I'm staying home.
Unfortunately, greed knows no boundary…..MANY expressed the same opinions (to postpone) prior to the Lincoln event….and guess what….they were correct….horses WERE infected.
NOW is the time for the producers to put their greed aside and think of the welfare of the entire horse community. In the last big outbreak, it was stifled because producers did the RIGHT thing and postponed events.
eta: OR, at the very least, let contestants withdraw and refund entry fees of those who choose to be safe.
NJJ, I am going to disagree somewhat here. I don't think it is greed, many of these producers have a lot of money on the line - money that they have paid upfront to put on this show. And, as a small business, some of them cannot afford to lose that money. I think they should postpone or cancel the shows, and I think the participants should share in that loss by taking a loss of part of the entry fee if it is necessary to give refunds. Everyone in the horse community has to take this serious. I think the thing is, it is not being taken seriously enough. If the Race for the Roses has a backup date, I have no idea why they just wouldn't postpone it. People need to petition them to do so. |
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Location: Way up North | ThreeCorners - 2014-04-29 4:53 PM You all should be calling these producers and not just asking, but putting the pressure on. They need to be responsable along with ALL horse owners. It's rediculas the selfishness and irrisponsability I see from the mid west people. Be HORSEMEN!! Stay home, let this outbreak die and in a month you will all be back at it and it will be nothing but a distant memory. If they keep holding shows, and you keep hauling, it will go on and on and on and then the Govt. Dept Of Ag will shut us all down for alot longer and we will forver be monitored greatly. I sure dont want to be babysat because the mid west couldnt pull their big boy and girl panties up and go camping or spend time with family for a month instead.
A LOT of us have put our big girl panties on and have been following protocol. I did not enter this race until the last minute and there had not been any new cases for several weeks prior. It would be my first time hauling anywhere since last year. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | EmtRoper - 2014-04-30 3:59 PM I know many people have talked to the R4R producers until they are blue in the face and are those people who have $500 or more invested in this weekend and it is simple we will not be getting a refund. Also this is the first time our group has ever attended this race and we have all agreed that this will be the last simply because the safety of horses is not considered. So weather we all decide to eat our entry fees or not is something we are still discussing. Start an online petition on FB or something. Put the pressure on. Maybe even contact the local press, TV and newspaper.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Hollywood's Fan - 2014-04-29 6:50 PM NJJ - 2014-04-30 5:41 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 6:16 PM I didn't realize they have a backup date for the R2R. I guess I can't understand why they don't play it safe and move the race back, if that's the case. After all I've been saying about this virus, I would be a hypocrite to turn around and go. I'm staying home.
Unfortunately, greed knows no boundary…..MANY expressed the same opinions (to postpone) prior to the Lincoln event….and guess what….they were correct….horses WERE infected.
NOW is the time for the producers to put their greed aside and think of the welfare of the entire horse community. In the last big outbreak, it was stifled because producers did the RIGHT thing and postponed events.
eta: OR, at the very least, let contestants withdraw and refund entry fees of those who choose to be safe.
I agree....but those producers who won't even consider returning the entry fees or postpone (if they have a back-up date) are GREEDY.....They could keep the office charges, etc......and other producers (in the last outbreak) did the right thing. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | NJJ - 2014-04-30 5:54 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-04-29 6:50 PM NJJ - 2014-04-30 5:41 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 6:16 PM I didn't realize they have a backup date for the R2R. I guess I can't understand why they don't play it safe and move the race back, if that's the case. After all I've been saying about this virus, I would be a hypocrite to turn around and go. I'm staying home.
Unfortunately, greed knows no boundary…..MANY expressed the same opinions (to postpone) prior to the Lincoln event….and guess what….they were correct….horses WERE infected.
NOW is the time for the producers to put their greed aside and think of the welfare of the entire horse community. In the last big outbreak, it was stifled because producers did the RIGHT thing and postponed events.
eta: OR, at the very least, let contestants withdraw and refund entry fees of those who choose to be safe.
Yes, in that case, it does sound like greed. I was thinking more about the BRF. I know Renea and I know that she does her best to put on a great event. I know when I put on a large event like that, I had 15 - 20K in expenses upfront. These producers still need to cancel, don't get me wrong. I just think the barrel racers need to understand if they don't get a full refund. We want these big barrel races so everyone needs to share in the loss of having to cancel an event like this. Otherwise, a good producer like Renea Bolling might be out of business. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Sounds like most people are on the same page here. If people are going to put the pressure on, they'd better get cracking. People will be rolling into the RHR Friday morning and it's Tuesday. |
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Location: North Dakota | I think they would be smart to postpone. They would probably get a MUCH better turnout once the fear of this crap subsides. |
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| Here is a webinar with a PHD from UC Davis. I missed the first part but its a good listen.
http://www.myhorseuniversity.com/resources/webcasts
Archive will be up tomorrow. Talks a lot about incubation periods and how long we need to be worried, etc.
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| If.someone could start a petition online on Facebook for example I would sign I just do not know how to build something like that. |
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Location: PNW | EmtRoper - 2014-04-29 7:57 PM
If.someone could start a petition online on Facebook for example I would sign I just do not know how to build something like that.
Does R4R have a page on FB? If they do... People just need to start bombarding it with unhappiness.... And then share it. Boom instant bad PR |
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| This whole virus has taken any and all excitement away from me for this season. I am frustrated by the fact that people are choosing to haul and refusing to accept that this isnt going away as easily as they may have anticipated. I am frustrated with producers and I am sorry but loss of money on one event is a lot less than a loss on many.
I personally have no desire to haul right now and have no desire to support certain organizations who are not taking the proper precautions. I realize this all just sucks... however, I do want to show. The weather is $hitty and horses are stressed due to this... why push it? I just dont understand it.
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Location: PNW | EmtRoper - 2014-04-29 8:15 PM
Yea I believe they do
Get to posting and sharing then :) |
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| So im prolly going to open a can of worms here,but if its spread by contact what about selling / buying horses, tack and ect...? Couldn't it be spread this way too? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I posted on there....so who's next? I am going to catch so much sh!t. |
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| mokanchaser75 - 2014-04-29 8:49 PM
So im prolly going to open a can of worms here,but if its spread by contact what about selling / buying horses, tack and ect...? Couldn't it be spread this way too?
Yes it is. I didnt attend the MN horse expo because it just wasnt something i felt was a necessity and wasnt worth the risk no matter how big or small. |
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