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Location: North Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-14 8:31 AM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 5:27 PM 3canstorun - 2014-05-13 7:12 AM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 1:06 AM fatchance - 2014-05-12 6:14 PM GoGaited, IMHO there are better ways to state your stance on this topic. I don't seek your approval for my stance or how I state it. P/C can go to hades. I'm pretty sure the bible defines Christian attitude. In several places. It was kind of one of Christ's most important messages......
John 13:34 (Read all of John 13)
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.John 13:35 (Read all of John 13)
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.John 15:12 (Read all of John 15)
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.John 15:17 (Read all of John 15)
These things I command you, that ye love one another.Romans 12:10 (Read all of Romans 12)
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; Romans 13:8 (Read all of Romans 13)
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. Galatians 5:13 (Read all of Galatians 5)
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. Ephesians 4:2 (Read all of Ephesians 4)
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 1 Thessalonians 3:12 (Read all of 1 Thessalonians 3)
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you: 1 Thessalonians 4:9 (Read all of 1 Thessalonians 4)
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another. Hebrews 10:24 (Read all of Hebrews 10)
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 1 Peter 1:22 (Read all of 1 Peter 1)
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 1 Peter 3:8 (Read all of 1 Peter 3)
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 1 John 3:11 (Read all of 1 John 3)
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 1 John 3:23 (Read all of 1 John 3)
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 4:7 (Read all of 1 John 4)
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 1 John 4:11 (Read all of 1 John 4)
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 4:12 (Read all of 1 John 4)
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 2 John 1:5 (Read all of 2 John 1)
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
And I'm not really sure how gay people are in your face "24/7".... I mean is the only channel you get on TV Logo????
And Camps? Really???
Okay, You are quoting Jesus' Biblical Christian Attitudes. I am not disputing anything that you have posted in this quote.
Now, since You are quoting from The Holy Bible, I would challenge You to reference from either The Old Testament or New Testament where God, Jesus, or The Holy Ghost condone or accept the idea, or act of homosexuality or its behavior. | |
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Location: North Texas | And then there is this video clip of Newt Gingrich on CNN"s Crossfire.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/newt-gingrich-turns-tables-inclusive-liberals/ | |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 10:45 AM Frontier was also interesting if you'd like some semi-exotic meats. It's like a bar/grill casual type place.
Where is that? Close to the financial district? Sounds interesting. | |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-05-15 8:32 AM .....one more question, TxBO. Any suggestions for chick food? You know....places where they specialize in salads and plants and nuts?
Hotbear - I have faith you will be able to turn your lady onto FOOD - Chicago style pizza, hot dogs, and BEER! That is MY kind of "chick food." Hehe!  | |
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Location: Midwest | TXBO - 2014-05-15 10:49 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 10:45 AM Frontier was also interesting if you'd like some semi-exotic meats. It's like a bar/grill casual type place. Where is that? Close to the financial district? Sounds interesting.
It's on N Millwaukee
http://www.gdine.com/restaurant/restaurant_profile/frontier | |
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Location: North Texas | livexlovexrodeo - 2014-05-12 5:19 PM GoGaited - 2014-05-12 2:55 PM kdb2qq - 2014-05-12 12:15 PM livexlovexrodeo - 2014-05-12 11:49 AM It shouldn't be a big deal but it is because it's something that will create a "story" since it's a controversial topic. It can be really easy to say that gays/lesbians/bis "ask for it" and that it's "not a big deal they just make it one" but as a girl with a girlfriend AND a person that does not like attention, I don't ask for it. You'll never see me at a protest or gay pride parade lol. But even if I don't ask for it, I still get dirty looks or smart comments. It might not necessarily be the player himself wanting the attention, it's just the way the media is. For example if I were a NFR level rider and everyone knew I had a girlfriend I'm sure it would be talked about to some extent whether I wanted it to be or not. Sometimes if I really think about it, it hurts that I can't tell someone I have a girlfriend without a pin prick of nervousness about how they're going to react. It's fine that some people don't agree with it - we have mutual friends that are devout Christian but they're still nice to us and don't lecture us. And then some people are just jerks about it. I guess it's something that people don't really get if you aren't in that position. I'm pretty sure none of you have ever been scared that you were going to get ridiculed for saying you had a boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband. I'm sure if this guy ends up being a really good football player they'll forget about it to some extent. Kind of like how everyone knows Ellen DeGeneres is a lesbian but it's not really "news" and it's not "why" she's famous. I agree 100%. Sometimes it's not the Michael Sams of the world who are creating the "media frenzy", they just have to live with it. Edited for spelling And it would be a cold day in hell before my employer sent me to a homosexual re-education indoctrination camp to keep my job. Did the nfl ever say a word about all the feces flung at Tebow because he is a Christian? Oh hell, no, white Christian male be the debil!
There's a way to state your opinion without coming across as an intolerant jerkwad.
Perhaps Americans should be thankful that America is a TOLERANT Nation and Culture for in several Current Cultures/Countries in The World, the idea I.E. of Freedom of Speech and The Practice Tolerance does not exist. | |
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Location: North Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-12 9:10 PM Chick Fil a and The Duck Dynasty show made a mint from those "scandals"
And there is a problem with Capitialism? Micheal Sams is capitializing on His Status as well with help from the media.
However, the Media is acting Hypocritically in this scenario, because of their of Their (The Media's) ill/sorry treatment of Tim Tebo.
How will the Media react should Micheal Sams' play be as insufficent as Tim Tebow's?
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Location: North Texas | Rolling J - 2014-05-12 9:32 PM I find it ironic that one player gets praise and reorganization for kissing his boyfriend on camera but let another player (Tim Tebow) take a knee on the field and praise God for his success and the media hangs him out to dry. My point is, if the media wants these athletes to keep their personal lives and views, just that PERSONAL then lets be equal across the board! So sick and tired of the media shoving what THEY think is morally "right" and "wrong" down our throats.
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Location: Midwest | "Okay, You are quoting Jesus' Biblical Christian Attitudes. I am not disputing anything that you have posted in this quote.
Now, since You are quoting from The Holy Bible, I would challenge You to reference from either The Old Testament or New Testament where God, Jesus, or The Holy Ghost condone or accept the idea, or act of homosexuality or its behavior."
I'm not saying someone has to (or that the various Christian faiths) condone or believe something is morally "okay".
However, Jesus said to love one another. That's the "Christ" part of the Christian attitude. While I may not be a practicing Catholic, I did spend years in Catholic school learning about the religion, and that is by far the most important message Jesus told his followers: to love God and others. He himself reached out to those considered sinners, and I would think most people who consider themselves Christians would try to do the same (the whole WWJD thing...). Jesus himself never even mentioned homosexuality. (You'd think if it were super important, it would have come up? JMO)
Matthew 22:36-40
New International Version (NIV) 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ [a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘ Love your neighbor as yourself.’ [b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
In other words, don't treat people like crap. I don't like it when folks are treated like crap on this board (or anywhere really) because someone feels their religion gives them a free pass to do so. There is a way to say "I morally do not agree with this" without being hateful- which BTW, is I think what Jesus would have wanted people to do....based on what I've read anyway. Especially since any gay person is not hurting anyone- two consenting adults.
Don't take my word for it though- after all I am a heathen agnostic scientist (that is a joke lol)
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Location: North Texas | TXBO - 2014-05-13 2:10 PM aggiejudger - 2014-05-12 1:57 PM.......Also, his size and speed hurts him. He's not big enough to play his college position in the NFL and not fast enough to really be moved elsewhere. And if I had paid better attention, I could have told you which positions. I don't think his sexuality helped him in the draft, but I don't believe it really hurt him either.
...... That's right. It's what the pro's refer to as a "tweener".
Michael Sam wasn't the only tweener to go lower than projected. Jackson Jeffcoat was also projected as to go as high as the 3rd round but went undrafted because of it.
Now these posts are what the College and NFL Analysis(es) is supposed to be about! | |
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Location: Midwest | foundation horse - 2014-05-15 11:10 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-12 9:10 PM Chick Fil a and The Duck Dynasty show made a mint from those "scandals" And there is a problem with Capitialism? Micheal Sams is capitializing on His Status as well with help from the media.
However, the Media is acting Hypocritically in this scenario, because of their of Their (The Media's ) ill/sorry treatment of Tim Tebo.
How will the Media react should Micheal Sams' play be as insufficent as Tim Tebow's?
Never said that- Good for them in my opinion! LOL
Honestly, I don't follow football and have no idea who teebow is (sorry guys). but if he was persecuted in some way for praying, that's not right either. | |
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Location: North Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-14 2:07 PM GWR - 2014-05-14 2:06 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-05-12 9:27 AM Personally, I couldn't care less about his sexual orientation. The media is turning it into their own tawdry circus. It sounds like he is a good player. The rest is just a tempest in a teapot, as far as I'm concerned. I hope he makes it, but not because he is gay, rather, because he turns out to be good on the field. I hope he sets a good example as a good man who does good things off the field, as opposed to some of the spoiled brats we've grown accustomed to seeing in recent years. It sounds like the kid has had to overcome more obstacles than just hiding his sexuality when he was growing up. He was raised by his mother, as his father basically ran off shortly after he was born. Of his 5 brothers, one died in infancy, one disappeared, one was shot right in front of Micheal, and two are in prison. For some time as a kid he lived in a car with his mother. I don't have a clue what kind of person he is, but I hope he proves to be good enough to make it and that he is a good, productive citizen who gives something back. If he does all that, given his experiences growing up, that would really be something to admire. See why doesn't the media focus the other things of what makes him a good pick? I'd rather hear that story as far as coming from a hard life rather than hearing about him being gay and kissing his boyfriend.
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Location: Midwest | foundation horse - 2014-05-15 11:17 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-14 2:07 PM GWR - 2014-05-14 2:06 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-05-12 9:27 AM Personally, I couldn't care less about his sexual orientation. The media is turning it into their own tawdry circus. It sounds like he is a good player. The rest is just a tempest in a teapot, as far as I'm concerned. I hope he makes it, but not because he is gay, rather, because he turns out to be good on the field. I hope he sets a good example as a good man who does good things off the field, as opposed to some of the spoiled brats we've grown accustomed to seeing in recent years. It sounds like the kid has had to overcome more obstacles than just hiding his sexuality when he was growing up. He was raised by his mother, as his father basically ran off shortly after he was born. Of his 5 brothers, one died in infancy, one disappeared, one was shot right in front of Micheal, and two are in prison. For some time as a kid he lived in a car with his mother. I don't have a clue what kind of person he is, but I hope he proves to be good enough to make it and that he is a good, productive citizen who gives something back. If he does all that, given his experiences growing up, that would really be something to admire. See why doesn't the media focus the other things of what makes him a good pick? I'd rather hear that story as far as coming from a hard life rather than hearing about him being gay and kissing his boyfriend. Which in and of itself is a form of Captialism.
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Location: Midwest | TXBO - 2014-05-15 11:02 AM Thank a million. I'll give it a try.
No problem! I had the pulled boar, my friend had the rabbit meat loaf. Both were pretty good! Lots of indoor and outdoor seating- more like a bar atmosphere but the menu was pretty cool. I'd go back. | |
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Location: North Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 11:12 AM "Okay, You are quoting Jesus' Biblical Christian Attitudes. I am not disputing anything that you have posted in this quote.
Now, since You are quoting from The Holy Bible, I would challenge You to reference from either The Old Testament or New Testament where God, Jesus, or The Holy Ghost condone or accept the idea, or act of homosexuality or its behavior."
I'm not saying someone has to (or that the various Christian faiths) condone or believe something is morally "okay".
However, Jesus said to love one another. That's the "Christ" part of the Christian attitude. While I may not be a practicing Catholic, I did spend years in Catholic school learning about the religion, and that is by far the most important message Jesus told his followers: to love God and others. He himself reached out to those considered sinners, and I would think most people who consider themselves Christians would try to do the same (the whole WWJD thing...). Jesus himself never even mentioned homosexuality. (You'd think if it were super important, it would have come up? JMO)
Matthew 22:36-40
New International Version (NIV)
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ [a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘ Love your neighbor as yourself.’ [b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
In other words, don't treat people like crap. I don't like it when folks are treated like crap on this board (or anywhere really) because someone feels their religion gives them a free pass to do so. There is a way to say "I morally do not agree with this" without being hateful- which BTW, is I think what Jesus would have wanted people to do....based on what I've read anyway. Especially since any gay person is not hurting anyone- two consenting adults.
Don't take my word for it though- after all I am a heathen agnostic scientist (that is a joke lol)
Personally, I just like to see people treat one another with respect- on this board, and in real life as well.
Are you forgetting the events in which Jesus spoke of Marriage being between a Man and a Woman. Which is the antithesis of homosexuality? And what did Jesus say about even looking at someone in a lustful manner?
I just wanted to remind you about what Jesus taught about in regards to the initimate relationships between men and women.
However, I do have to agree with you on Jesus' Teachings in regards to Courtesy in Relationships. Any type of relationship.
There is only One Historical Event that records Jesus as being Angry and that was when Jesus removed The Money Changers from The Temple. Jesus and albeit God does not accept or tolerate Disrespect to God's House of Prayer. And Disrespect can occur in many forms.
In The Old Testament, God chose The Israelites as The Apple of His Eye I.E. HIS PEOPLE and gave them Laws or Ordinances to live by. Not many but some. And for the most part They are simple, straightforward and easy to understand. And one of these was/is the idea or concept of a Man and Woman bonding together and re/pro creating. Also, in The Old Testament is what God's Belief or Point of View is in relation to NOT following this particular Ordinance. In The Book of Genesis is The Tale of Sodom and Gemorrah. And there is archealogical evidence to support that God Destroyed The City of Gemorrah for it widely accepted behavior. God references homosexuality as an Abomination (The Book of Leviticus) in The King James and The New King James Versions of The Holy Bible.
I am confident I will receive a number of 'dislike'(s) in regards to this post. However, I could not hold my tongue any longer in regards to this topic. It is NOT that Christian PEOPLE have a problem with Homosexuality, but it is The FACT that God THE CREATOR does. 'I' am not attempting to pass personal judgement on anyone or anything associated with this thread or topic. I am only reiterating what Our Maker has taught Us from The Beginning of Time. | |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 11:12 AM "Okay, You are quoting Jesus' Biblical Christian Attitudes. I am not disputing anything that you have posted in this quote.
Now, since You are quoting from The Holy Bible, I would challenge You to reference from either The Old Testament or New Testament where God, Jesus, or The Holy Ghost condone or accept the idea, or act of homosexuality or its behavior."
I'm not saying someone has to (or that the various Christian faiths) condone or believe something is morally "okay".
However, Jesus said to love one another. That's the "Christ" part of the Christian attitude. While I may not be a practicing Catholic, I did spend years in Catholic school learning about the religion, and that is by far the most important message Jesus told his followers: to love God and others. He himself reached out to those considered sinners, and I would think most people who consider themselves Christians would try to do the same (the whole WWJD thing...). Jesus himself never even mentioned homosexuality. (You'd think if it were super important, it would have come up? JMO)
Matthew 22:36-40
New International Version (NIV)
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ [a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘ Love your neighbor as yourself.’ [b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
In other words, don't treat people like crap. I don't like it when folks are treated like crap on this board (or anywhere really) because someone feels their religion gives them a free pass to do so. There is a way to say "I morally do not agree with this" without being hateful- which BTW, is I think what Jesus would have wanted people to do....based on what I've read anyway. Especially since any gay person is not hurting anyone- two consenting adults.
Don't take my word for it though- after all I am a heathen agnostic scientist (that is a joke lol)
Personally, I just like to see people treat one another with respect- on this board, and in real life as well.
Like many sins, Scripture does not confirm that Jesus ever mentioned homosexuality but Jesus did many times say "as it is written". He considered Mosaic Law as the infalliable word of God. Mosaic Law specifically forbid homosexuality.
While we are on scripture and specifically Jesus' words, here is what he did say about marriage:
"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said' For this reason a man will leave his mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together let no one separate." Mathew 19:4-6
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Location: North Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 11:14 AM foundation horse - 2014-05-15 11:10 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-12 9:10 PM Chick Fil a and The Duck Dynasty show made a mint from those "scandals" And there is a problem with Capitialism? Micheal Sams is capitializing on His Status as well with help from the media.
However, the Media is acting Hypocritically in this scenario, because of their of Their (The Media's ) ill/sorry treatment of Tim Tebo.
How will the Media react should Micheal Sams' play be as insufficent as Tim Tebow's?
Never said that- Good for them in my opinion! LOL
Honestly, I don't follow football and have no idea who teebow is (sorry guys ). but if he was persecuted in some way for praying, that's not right either.
Tim Tebow is the Child of Missionary Parents who played College Football for The University of Florida. He is a Strongly Practicing Christian Man who gained negative Media Attention for Praying Publiclly in relationship to Football Games and even Witnessed His Faith via the Bible Verse John 3:16 on His Eyeblack. Lots of Media Attention when He won The Heisman Trophy. He was subsequently drafted into The NFL and played for The N.Y. Jets and then for The Denver Broncos. His NFL Career was a NonStarter Event and He is currently an ESPN Commentator for College Football. | |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 11:12 AM
Matthew 22:36-40
New International Version (NIV)
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ [a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘ Love your neighbor as yourself.’ [b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
These are wonderful verses that anchor the entire Gospel. And how does the Bible tell us to fulfill the command to love God?
In Jesus' own words:
"If you love me, keep my commands." John 14:15
2 John 1:6 Is just one of many other examples that confirm the definition of love:
"And this is love, that we walk in obedience to his commands"
So if we ignore Mosaic Law, can we possibly be fullfilling Jesus two greatest commands?
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Location: North Texas | TXBO - 2014-05-15 11:58 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 11:12 AM
Matthew 22:36-40
New International Version (NIV)
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ [a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘ Love your neighbor as yourself.’ [b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
In Jesus' own words:
"If you love me, keep my commands." John 14:15
2 John 1:6 Is just one of many other examples that confirm the definition of love:
"And this is love, that we walk in obedience to his commands"
So if we ignore Mosaic Law, can we possibly be fullfilling Jesus two greatest commands?
Thank you for pointing this out and reminding many people (to include Christians) of this. The Old Testament is Mosiac Law and Jesus of The New Testament fulfilled The Prophesies of The Old Testament. Therefore Jesus' very existence indicates that The Old Testament is just as if not more important than The New Testament. | |
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