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LRQHS
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-09-22 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: another awful horse starving case :-(


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If I had the "whole world" looking at me, I probably wouldn't lock my barn doors. I think at that point it's time to show that I'm ready to get a little outside help and do what's right for the horses.

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ThreeCorners
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Posted 2014-09-22 1:22 PM
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LRQHS - 2014-09-22 1:19 PM

If I had the "whole world" looking at me, I probably wouldn't lock my barn doors. I think at that point it's time to show that I'm ready to get a little outside help and do what's right for the horses.

Exactly!!!         
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LRQHS
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Posted 2014-09-22 1:24 PM
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Who has AQHA money? I'm out. Is Dual Peppy still siring offspring? He's 22, right? 
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2014-09-22 1:33 PM
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SKM - 2014-09-22 10:44 AM

 JMHO but if it wasn't for Babcock's poor business practices, Dual Peppy never would have been put in this situation to begin with. Seems to me that they don't deserve him back either. Now I'm going to have to Google. Seems like he was sold when Babcock's declared bankruptcy a few years ago. I could be wrong though.

You are talking about the wrong Babcock. The one that is trying help out on this is CT. Babcock the son. The father Jim Babcock was the one that ran Babcock Ranch Inc. I don't think that either of the Babcocks ever owned Dual Peppy but only managed him at one point I could be wrong. I don't think Dual Peppy was involved in the bankrupt sale.
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cobrlracer
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2014-09-22 1:44 PM
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Babcocks have never claimed to own him, they put the deal together and this happened over 14 years ago! I personally was sitting with C.T. When he heard the news and he had tears running! I know a lot of people on this site hide behind fake names and profiles but I won't! Nor will I not stand up for so someone that is just trying to do the right thing! If it hadnt been for CT and Kellene this story would have already been yesterday's news!
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-09-22 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: another awful horse starving case :-(



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Could we all take 2 min and email this guy???


UPDATE ON BLACK FOREST HORSE ABUSE CASE *** There is a hearing tomorrow morning ( Tues. 9 AM ) at commissioners court in Colorado Springs. Please send a respectful email to Commissioner Darryl Glenn asking that the horses be moved to a safe environment. His email is [email protected] - Cutting horse breeder Linda Holmes will address the court on behalf of the horses. If you wish to attend, please be respectful and dress respectfully. Loud protests will not assist anything.
 
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LRQHS
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-09-22 2:00 PM
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cobrlracer - 2014-09-22 1:44 PM Babcocks have never claimed to own him, they put the deal together and this happened over 14 years ago! I personally was sitting with C.T. When he heard the news and he had tears running! I know a lot of people on this site hide behind fake names and profiles but I won't! Nor will I not stand up for so someone that is just trying to do the right thing! If it hadnt been for CT and Kellene this story would have already been yesterday's news! Rande
I can speak for myself and say that I'm not hiding behind any fake name. I am asking questions and trying to figure out what is going on. It is very confusing at best. So, you're saying that Mr. Babcock's wanting to help the horse because he put a deal together 14 years ago? That's admirable. I'm sure that a lot of people would step up and do the same thing for him and the other's there. It was just confusing as to where Mr. Babcock actally fit in to this whole deal. If you know any of the other answers to the questions, please answer and help us to understand this situation more fully. Thanks. 

Edited by LRQHS 2014-09-22 2:02 PM
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-22 2:15 PM
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MS2011 - 2014-09-22 1:45 PM Could we all take 2 min and email this guy???





UPDATE ON BLACK FOREST HORSE ABUSE CASE *** There is a hearing tomorrow morning ( Tues. 9 AM ) at commissioners court in Colorado Springs. Please send a respectful email to Commissioner Darryl Glenn asking that the horses be moved to a safe environment. His email is [email protected] - Cutting horse breeder Linda Holmes will address the court on behalf of the horses. If you wish to attend, please be respectful and dress respectfully. Loud protests will not assist anything.

 

I just sent a email to him, hope that everybody else sends him one, just a simple one so that they know that we are all watching hows this turns out.  
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-09-22 2:17 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-22 2:15 PM
MS2011 - 2014-09-22 1:45 PM Could we all take 2 min and email this guy???





UPDATE ON BLACK FOREST HORSE ABUSE CASE *** There is a hearing tomorrow morning ( Tues. 9 AM ) at commissioners court in Colorado Springs. Please send a respectful email to Commissioner Darryl Glenn asking that the horses be moved to a safe environment. His email is [email protected] - Cutting horse breeder Linda Holmes will address the court on behalf of the horses. If you wish to attend, please be respectful and dress respectfully. Loud protests will not assist anything.

 
I just sent a email to him, hope that everybody else sends him one, just a simple one so that they know that we are all watching hows this turns out.  

Exactly - please no rants.  Just a quick respectful email requesting his assistance with getting the horses to safety.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-22 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: another awful horse starving case :-(



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MS2011 - 2014-09-22 2:17 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-22 2:15 PM
MS2011 - 2014-09-22 1:45 PM Could we all take 2 min and email this guy???





UPDATE ON BLACK FOREST HORSE ABUSE CASE *** There is a hearing tomorrow morning ( Tues. 9 AM ) at commissioners court in Colorado Springs. Please send a respectful email to Commissioner Darryl Glenn asking that the horses be moved to a safe environment. His email is [email protected] - Cutting horse breeder Linda Holmes will address the court on behalf of the horses. If you wish to attend, please be respectful and dress respectfully. Loud protests will not assist anything.

 
I just sent a email to him, hope that everybody else sends him one, just a simple one so that they know that we are all watching hows this turns out.  
Exactly - please no rants.  Just a quick respectful email requesting his assistance with getting the horses to safety.

Mine was very simple, I just asked him to help there poor horses, and tolded him Thank you for being there...
Boy I hope they can do someting fast to get these horses out of there. If I was closer to them I would offer to take a few. 
 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-22 2:32 PM
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cobrlracer - 2014-09-22 1:44 PM Babcocks have never claimed to own him, they put the deal together and this happened over 14 years ago! I personally was sitting with C.T. When he heard the news and he had tears running! I know a lot of people on this site hide behind fake names and profiles but I won't! Nor will I not stand up for so someone that is just trying to do the right thing! If it hadnt been for CT and Kellene this story would have already been yesterday's news! Rande

Just kinda rubbed me wrong on you saying people hide behind a fake name on here, that is wrong, there is many on here that help out others when needed. Nobody is hiding... 
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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-09-22 3:07 PM
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Here is what I sent to the Commissioner.  And I included my name/address etc.  My "real name" no less.

 
Commissioner Glenn,
   Those of us in the “horse sport world” have been saddened to learn of the apparent abuse case involving World Champion cutting horse Dual Peppy and several other horses in your county.  I do not know if you are a knowledgeable horse person or not…so I’d like to express my feelings on the situation these horses have been enduring.  While some non-horse folks might feel that the explanation of the deaths of the other 12 or so horses as being from “colic” over the winter…I would highly doubt that to be the case.  If you have a horse colic you call in a vet or treat accordingly.  It is a GI issue that can certainly occur in horses…but the coincidence of all 12 suffering from colic and dying is beyond the realm of possibility unless they failed to treat the horses and or the general state of neglect we see today existed at that time as well.
 
Regardless…horses stalled in a barn with decomposing carcasses and piled up manure has no excuse.  Neither can they explain away the very poor condition of these animals.  If you do not intervene and remove the remaining animals from her care I believe they will persist in these terrible conditions and/or die as the other before them.   If they were capable of providing proper food and care and chose to keep these horses in this state that only serves to show they are not fit to own them.  These were not uneducated new horse owners.  They had resources and connections in the horse world.  They could have sought help.  Instead they watched them suffer and die one by one.
 
Please do the right thing and remove all horses from their care.
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Silverchex
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-09-22 3:18 PM
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Former owner "Bowling is determined to right this wrong. He said he would love to take Dual Peppy back.
"I put him in this hell. I am responsible for selling him to those people. I owe him, I told these people I will take him and give him a home for the rest of his life and take care of him like he deserves to be," said Bowling.

Video and story here:
http://www.krdo.com/news/renowned-stallion-among-horses-found-seemingly-starving/28181900
 
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-09-22 3:25 PM
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The email will be part of the record. The commisioners can help I takes to them today. The can help . Please keep your e mail short and professional. Give them Youre contact information. Be sure and thank them for hearing you're concern.
 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-22 3:27 PM
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Oh I pray that they take these horses and place them in homes that will take care of them,  
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LRQHS
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-09-22 3:29 PM
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Ok, I'm not seeing a Bowling on the owner list either......I think it's fairly safe to say that almost any person that knows who this horse is would be willing to take him in and take care of him. I'm going to go ahead and throw my name into the hat too. I'll be more that happy to take him and give him a loving home. 
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Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-09-22 3:30 PM
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LRQHS - 2014-09-22 4:29 PM Ok, I'm not seeing a Bowling on the owner list either......I think it's fairly safe to say that almost any person that knows who this horse is would be willing to take him in and take care of him. I'm going to go ahead and throw my name into the hat too. I'll be more that happy to take him and give him a loving home. 

Didn't you know that I was a former owner too.  Heck, add me to the list - seems all the other people aren't listed on "paper" either as an owner.  Maybe, they all got tired of waiting on papers to be transferred and never registered him in their name.  That is what I did............................................ 
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LRQHS
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Posted 2014-09-22 3:41 PM
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 Now, what I want to know is who put the rest of the horses in this situation and why aren't they stepping forward to give those horses a great home too?
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ThreeCorners
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Posted 2014-09-22 3:44 PM
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LRQHS - 2014-09-22 3:29 PM Ok, I'm not seeing a Bowling on the owner list either......I think it's fairly safe to say that almost any person that knows who this horse is would be willing to take him in and take care of him. I'm going to go ahead and throw my name into the hat too. I'll be more that happy to take him and give him a loving home. 

I believe he was the agent.
 
http://oasisranchinc.com/pete-bowling/
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LRQHS
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-09-22 3:49 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-09-22 3:44 PM
LRQHS - 2014-09-22 3:29 PM Ok, I'm not seeing a Bowling on the owner list either......I think it's fairly safe to say that almost any person that knows who this horse is would be willing to take him in and take care of him. I'm going to go ahead and throw my name into the hat too. I'll be more that happy to take him and give him a loving home. 
I believe he was the agent.

 
http://oasisranchinc.com/pete-bowling/

Ok, so he's the agent, not CT? I feel like we need a list of player's and what role they actually played in all of this. 
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