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Location: Broxton, Ga | readytorodeo - 2014-12-20 11:44 AM This was a hate crime. Where Is Jesse Jackson and everyone screaming racial crime? I mean seriously this has to stop.
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Location: WYOMING | The truth of it is Eric Garner was a diagnosed very unhealthly criminal who had been arrested 33 times in the past and his mo was resisting arrest. HE caused his death and I domt feel sorry for him for one second. I feel sorry for the 33 police officers who had to arrest him in the past, our tax dollaers going towards repeatedly dealing with the same crooks, and the fact that there is a very big group of people who feel entitledand who are misguidedin the fact that if you are breaking the law YOU MAY GET ARRESTED OR KILLED. Dont break the freaking law. Sadly that group of people who feel criminals should be handled with dignity and will protest in spite of the facts of the case will cause problems for evertone else who are trying to live rightand do their jobs. |
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| I am so disgusted with all these race baiters. My area, so far, has not been affected by Rev. Sharpton, Rev. Jessie Jackson, Barack Obama and Eric Holder. I wish all these men would come to Texas! I have been taught all my life there is a Heaven and Hell. If you think preaching all this hatred is taking you to heaven, then is there a Black Heaven and a Black Hell? How can we come together if you don't like me because of my color? Is your God Black and my God White? Killing someone because of their color is crazy! If those Black people had surrendered without a fight, they would be alive! Let the court decide if they are innocent or guilty? That's what our judicial system is for. I feel so sorry for the people that have lost their lives due to being defiant. If we don't pull together as a country we're not going to have one! We are turning into a lawless society! |
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Location: Washington | I would love to believe this will be the last we see of this, but I do fear the worst. The one person that can stop this is "we the people". WE need to stand as a nation of one. If our elected government can't find a way then we need to. Zero tolerance of violence towards those who sign up to defend us on a daily bases should be understood, and if your found guilty of that it should hold our highest punishment. As it stands in this day in age we accept this act of violence towards our protectors as dying in the line of duty, but this is not the case, these men and women are being sacrificed due to what we the people deem the norm, since when is terrorism in our country the norm? Our government as we are talking about this here on BHW is tearing us down again by trying to tell us what is torture and terrorism and then blend those lines of what we should accept as right.... THAT IS WRONG!
One policemen or women is killed every 58 hours in our country and most we never hear about. But we now are witnessing and hearing about our policemen and women being killed in an act of terrorism from the hands of fellow citizens who have so lost their way they are no longer citizens that we the people recognize, but yet our government still allows them to have these attitudes and continues to allow them to voice it, saying it their rights. If we don't draw a line in the the USA sand on these issues we might as well start using the term "killed by friendly fire". Laugh if you will it's your right, but if we don't wake up it could happen? Examples need to be made of those who are citizens or not that we are a country of ZERO TOLERENCE towards terrorism.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | geronabean - 2014-12-21 10:11 AM The truth of it is Eric Garner was a diagnosed very unhealthly criminal who had been arrested 33 times in the past and his mo was resisting arrest. HE caused his death and I domt feel sorry for him for one second. I feel sorry for the 33 police officers who had to arrest him in the past, our tax dollaers going towards repeatedly dealing with the same crooks, and the fact that there is a very big group of people who feel entitledand who are misguidedin the fact that if you are breaking the law YOU MAY GET ARRESTED OR KILLED. Dont break the freaking law. Sadly that group of people who feel criminals should be handled with dignity and will protest in spite of the facts of the case will cause problems for evertone else who are trying to live rightand do their jobs.
I haven't read up on all this so forgive me...what were his crimes? I mean, WHY was he on the streets after 33 arrests?
I don't think people hate cops so much as they hate what it's all come to represent in our lovely country where Freedom & Liberty is of a bygone day.
How many of us have heard, "I don't make the laws I just enforce them"?
They take an oath to the Consititution & have every right, indeed, a duty, to refuse to 'enforce' a law that they know is wrong.
We are drowning in laws that fine us for what we 'might' do rather than having actually committed a crime...a real crime, where someone was hurt or injured.
Citizens are being squeezed tighter and tighter...that in no way excuses murder, however, cops commit murder, too, and then they have their 'internal investigation' and are rarely charged. THAT is the anger & I support protesting...peacefully.
We're supposedly 'innocent until proven guilty', yet, LEO's have become the judge, jury & executioner in many instances.
If they want to restore the faith in our police departments they need to 'vet' their own rogue cops instead of protecting them within the 'brotherhood'.
I'm curious if anyone's seen this & what you think of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiJbHiQTe2c
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| CJE - 2014-12-21 11:09 AM
readytorodeo - 2014-12-20 11:44 AM This was a hate crime. Where Is Jesse Jackson and everyone screaming racial crime? I mean seriously this has to stop.
Its okay to hate cops..............
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | komet. - 2014-12-21 12:09 AM
Rolling J - 2014-12-20 11:28 PM
Just thinking out loud here but let me get this all straight.... We have "Group A" over in one corner....     A number of individuals that are outraged and keep screaming, rioting and preaching that they want to stop being judged by their appearance. Some people even saying skin color " ALONE" makes them targets and they are not treated fairly by the police and especially by police of a different skin color.... They want it to be heard.... STOP JUDGING THEM! Stop making assumptions based on appearance, treat all people with FAIR JUDGEMENT!!!!Â
Now we have "Group B" over here....
    Men and women and all races working hard to protect lives and serve others. YES, there are some bad officers and I am sure there is some corruption among the ranks but OVERALL we can find examples of WAY more postive acts of heroism than bad "calls". MANY of today's police officers are also military veterns and are our neighbors, friends, husband, wives, sons, daughters..... They DON'T set out on any given day "just hoping" to "target" someone to beat, kick around or shot. Actually, I would bet money if you talk to about any police officer if they never had to fire their gun, that would be FINE with them and a good day to them would be a "quiet one" where they come home to their families every night.
So now we have "Group A" - who keep SCREAMING about not judging them based upon "appearance" - Is now the SAME group of people who can justify killing others based soley on that peron's "appearance"?Â
I undersand this was a lone gunman but he killed these two individuals based ONLY on the fact they were cops. NO OTHER REASON. He did not know them and they propably had never seen his face before today. And even more sadly, I am sure there are MANY other people that are happy those "pigs" were killed ....it was "revenge."
I realize in the "reality of things" it will propably only be a minority of people who think along this distored way of thinking but it makes NO sense to me. I am sick of this double standard "Don't judge me, but it is OK for me to judge you."
The greatest commandment on the Bible is "To love one another."Â
I honestly can not wrap my head around this way of thinking so many people have today "wanting equality but showing so much hate/ dislike towards others." Â
Just something to think about.... Many years someone said " Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely...."
Now I don't care what anyone says... When you give someone the power and authority that comes with the badge and the gun of a law enforcement officer... at some point they will abuse it. Maybe it will only be a small infraction. Maybe only once. Maybe all the time. But they will KNOW it is wrong and they will do it anyway. .. Nobody this side of God is perfect... Cops included.....
I agree with you in that I don't think cops are perfect, Just that I don't think all black people are justifying these murders as OK. I do strongly feel thought the good people out weight the bad, unfortunately "good acts" are not news worthy by today standards. What I don't understand is that WHY is it OK for some people say "don't judge me on my "skin color" (or you can insert so many other adjectives in there that people don't want to be labeled with today) but it is ok for that SAME group of people to judge others based on that exact same thing - an outward appearance.
I firmly believe there are good and bad people in ALL races, in ALL occupations, in ALL religions, in ALL aspects of life, even good and bad people in the world of barrel racing..... But it does not make it right to keep killing or hating each other based on media shaped persecutions, what others have told us or on some made up scenario in are own minds...
No ONE is going to go through life loving everyone but this is deep, deep, deep seeded hate and that is beyond scary and sad. From what I could tell from one of the pictures, this was not a racial act but pure and simple an act of hate towards police officers. So we are back to the sad, pathetic frame of thought "I want treated with equality but that "pig must die" because he is cop." "He must be bad because he works at the NYPD..." Profiling at its finest. Where are all of the activities now! Where are all the people in the streets screaming for "profiling" to stop? Where are all the preachers shouting from the pulpit that the "Hate must stop?"
I understand what you are trying to say Komet but this is more about a double standard to me then anything...
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Location: Broxton, Ga | readytorodeo - 2014-12-20 1:20 PM CJE - 2014-12-21 11:09 AM readytorodeo - 2014-12-20 11:44 AM This was a hate crime. Where Is Jesse Jackson and everyone screaming racial crime? I mean seriously this has to stop. Its okay to hate cops.............. Wow really?
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Location: Alberta | SG. - 2014-12-20 8:05 PM
I have been thinking a lot of all officers and their families during Christmas. And then to have this happen right at Christmas. Just so many prayers for all officers, their families and for these 2 officer's families in the days to come Â
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Location: British Columbia | Why is this even on a barrel forum? This is ridiculous, this board is so over run with stuff not even remotely relevant to barrel racing and all it does is cause fights.
I came back here after a few months hiatus because of all the bull **** and I'm not coming back this time(go ahead, say the classic "good ridence" lol).
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| All I know is my job as a dispatcher is to bring my officers home. I'm afraid this is bigger than me. Prayers to LEO around the country. |
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Location: WYOMING | TMEquine - 2014-12-21 3:24 PM
Why is this even on a barrel forum? This is ridiculous, this board is so over run with stuff not even remotely relevant to barrel racing and all it does is cause fights.
I came back here after a few months hiatus because of all the bull **** and I'm not coming back this time(go ahead, say the classic "good ridence" lol).
Lol because THE OWNER OF THE BOARDS posted it.... thats why. |
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| TMEquine - 2014-12-21 2:24 PM
Why is this even on a barrel forum? This is ridiculous, this board is so over run with stuff not even remotely relevant to barrel racing and all it does is cause fights.
I came back here after a few months hiatus because of all the bull **** and I'm not coming back this time(go ahead, say the classic "good ridence" lol).
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Location: oklahoma | fatchance - 2014-12-21 12:14 PM I would love to believe this will be the last we see of this, but I do fear the worst. The one person that can stop this is "we the people". WE need to stand as a nation of one. If our elected government can't find a way then we need to. Zero tolerance of violence towards those who sign up to defend us on a daily bases should be understood, and if your found guilty of that it should hold our highest punishment. As it stands in this day in age we accept this act of violence towards our protectors as dying in the line of duty, but this is not the case, these men and women are being sacrificed due to what we the people deem the norm, since when is terrorism in our country the norm? Our government as we are talking about this here on BHW is tearing us down again by trying to tell us what is torture and terrorism and then blend those lines of what we should accept as right.... THAT IS WRONG!
One policemen or women is killed every 58 hours in our country and most we never hear about. But we now are witnessing and hearing about our policemen and women being killed in an act of terrorism from the hands of fellow citizens who have so lost their way they are no longer citizens that we the people recognize, but yet our government still allows them to have these attitudes and continues to allow them to voice it, saying it their rights. If we don't draw a line in the the USA sand on these issues we might as well start using the term "killed by friendly fire". Laugh if you will it's your right, but if we don't wake up it could happen? Examples need to be made of those who are citizens or not that we are a country of ZERO TOLERENCE towards terrorism.
Many prayers to the police officers families.
This ^^^
its up to us, I see it in my own workplace, city, neighborhood. The us v. them mentality. There's been few consequences in the past generation and they remain shackled to the govt and it causes anger and resentment. They don't know how to think for themselves so the hatred gets regurgitated throughout generations. Time to take back your neighborhoods. Doesn't matter that they break the law and cause their own hurts...... Who hands out whatever discipline they receive? Hate mangers, sharp ton, et all, perpetuate the discontent. All by design. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | geronabean - 2014-12-21 2:49 PM TMEquine - 2014-12-21 3:24 PM Why is this even on a barrel forum? This is ridiculous, this board is so over run with stuff not even remotely relevant to barrel racing and all it does is cause fights. I came back here after a few months hiatus because of all the bull **** and I'm not coming back this time(go ahead, say the classic "good ridence" lol). Lol because THE OWNER OF THE BOARDS posted it.... thats why.
LOL....just what I was going to say....before you get your panties too far up your crack, I would check to see who started the thread....oh....that's right....Gail....OWNER of BHW......
And, more than likely, she posted it because it is CURRENT news and certainly, SHOULD be of interest to most here..... |
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| geronabean - 2014-12-22 12:49 PM TMEquine - 2014-12-21 3:24 PM Why is this even on a barrel forum? This is ridiculous, this board is so over run with stuff not even remotely relevant to barrel racing and all it does is cause fights. I came back here after a few months hiatus because of all the bull **** and I'm not coming back this time(go ahead, say the classic "good ridence" lol). Lol because THE OWNER OF THE BOARDS posted it.... thats why.
I'm happy to have a place to discuss world issues. It affects everything--even barrel racing. Gail knows this or she wouldn't have posted. LOL |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jbhoot - 2014-12-21 3:08 PM TMEquine - 2014-12-21 2:24 PM Why is this even on a barrel forum? This is ridiculous, this board is so over run with stuff not even remotely relevant to barrel racing and all it does is cause fights. I came back here after a few months hiatus because of all the bull **** and I'm not coming back this time(go ahead, say the classic "good ridence" lol). Bye
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | TMEquine - 2014-12-21 2:24 PM Why is this even on a barrel forum? This is ridiculous, this board is so over run with stuff not even remotely relevant to barrel racing and all it does is cause fights. I came back here after a few months hiatus because of all the bull **** and I'm not coming back this time(go ahead, say the classic "good ridence" lol).
If it bothers you it's very easy to not open up this thread. Trust me...there are a lot of threads that I think are stupid so I just skip over them. Doesn't take a college degree to figure that out. LOL |
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| TMEquine - 2014-12-21 2:24 PM Why is this even on a barrel forum? This is ridiculous, this board is so over run with stuff not even remotely relevant to barrel racing and all it does is cause fights. I came back here after a few months hiatus because of all the bull **** and I'm not coming back this time(go ahead, say the classic "good ridence" lol).
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