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      Location: las vegas nv | Ted Cruz is a super candidate ,he is articulate ,loves our nation and its people,he has never wavered in his beliefs . He will stand for the working class of people in America and has the ability to handle the media without getting flustered and handles himself impecably . He is being attacked by the left and right because they fear he will stop the flow of corrupt money to every hand thats out . That means both sides .The polititians that are simply making decisions based on how much it will line their pockets have had their day and CHANGE , it is a comin!!!the corruption is rampant and the brakes will be applied ,so the polititians and the paid off media will be spitting fire so that they dont lose their cash cows. We need Ted Cruz to stand strong and make the decisions that will balance the budget ,protect our troops ,and put our constitution back into effect in America ,it has been TRAMPLED by the lawlessness going on,Cruz is the man to do the job,anyone that votes democrat or republican needs to really evaluate why they are doing that ,if it is because you believe in a strong America then you need to re evaluate who you should baclk this time ,Please dont listen to the "talking points" if you hear the exact same thing coming from every channel it is a talking point that has been written to distribute and convince the uninformed public to see things their way ,do your home work or dont vote ! | |
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           Location: Florida.. | I just know that it seems the younger generation is all about Obama and croonies.. democrats.. and debating and argeuing you cant win for they deny deny and talk in circles.. so someone needs to be able to convince that generation they will be a good choice...........good luck with that. eyes wide shut.smh | |
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       Location: Florida | Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
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| Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM
Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin! Â
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     Location: Texas | RidenFly - 2015-03-25 4:14 PM bocephus's mama - 2015-03-26 1:45 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will. Why? Because the democrat party is the party of the working men and women of this country. That is the foundation, the core. Now, do many get away from the foundation today? Yes, and they should be horse whipped for it.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?" So the democratic party is perfect and the republican party is 100% flawed. Wow. This line of thinking is truly sad. I'm pretty disgusted by the republicans but about 5% more disgusted by the democrats. Both parties are so out of touch with the current needs of the country. Both (BOTH) pander to donors - how could they not - so much that the ethical line hardly even exists anymore.
As far as Ted Cruz goes, if I were a democrat, MAN would I be praying he wins the party nomination because he will never be elected in a general election. NEVER. Supporting him will be paving the way for Hillary. The GOP needs someone electable for goodness sakes and they are just the group that will never realize it. No offense, Bo Ma, but that's the same ol thing you folks said last go around, that it had to be Mitt b/c he was electable. Again, where's the proof? He garnered less votes than McCain from his party.
You can dig up those old threads - I was never team Romney but when he won the nomination, I voted for him. It's not that I didn't like him but 1. He was ridiculously rich and I knew he would be painted as someone completely out of touch with "normal" America and 2. He flipped too much. Getting more votes than McCain was probably due more to people realizing the first 4 years of Obama was a mistake more than loving Romney.
As I said 4 years ago, the dems have become amazing at playing the game and if the republicans don't start playing better, they're toast. It is a "stoop to their level" type of thing but at the end of the day, the voting public has created the game. | |
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     Location: Texas | kelly griffith - 2015-03-25 10:43 PM Ted Cruz is a super candidate ,he is articulate ,loves our nation and its people,he has never wavered in his beliefs . He will stand for the working class of people in America and has the ability to handle the media without getting flustered and handles himself impecably . He is being attacked by the left and right because they fear he will stop the flow of corrupt money to every hand thats out . That means both sides .The polititians that are simply making decisions based on how much it will line their pockets have had their day and CHANGE , it is a comin!!!the corruption is rampant and the brakes will be applied ,so the polititians and the paid off media will be spitting fire so that they dont lose their cash cows. We need Ted Cruz to stand strong and make the decisions that will balance the budget ,protect our troops ,and put our constitution back into effect in America ,it has been TRAMPLED by the lawlessness going on,Cruz is the man to do the job,anyone that votes democrat or republican needs to really evaluate why they are doing that ,if it is because you believe in a strong America then you need to re evaluate who you should baclk this time ,Please dont listen to the "talking points" if you hear the exact same thing coming from every channel it is a talking point that has been written to distribute and convince the uninformed public to see things their way ,do your home work or dont vote !
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM
Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin! Â
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| Bear - 2015-03-27 6:36 AM Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
Why are you a liberal, Vickie?
Respectfully, I think it's a waste of time and frankly, a set up to ask her that question. I doubt anything anyone reads on a forum board is going to change their basic political beliefs. I'd love it if we could keep the dialogue about the candidates and what they bring to the table and how they are handled by the media. Foundation Horse posted a big eye opening article on FB about how the NY times handled Cruz's announcement Vs Obama's. The blatant disreggard for any Conservative candidate is criminal. How are we ever going to get this guy's message loud and clear if the air is full of static? It's horrible. | |
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     Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | RidenFly - 2015-03-26 7:42 AM Bear - 2015-03-27 6:36 AM Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
Why are you a liberal, Vickie? Respectfully, I think it's a waste of time and frankly, a set up to ask her that question. I doubt anything anyone reads on a forum board is going to change their basic political beliefs. I'd love it if we could keep the dialogue about the candidates and what they bring to the table and how they are handled by the media.
Foundation Horse posted a big eye opening article on FB about how the NY times handled Cruz's announcement Vs Obama's. The blatant disreggard for any Conservative candidate is criminal. How are we ever going to get this guy's message loud and clear if the air is full of static? It's horrible.
Social media, forums...what a great opportunity for dialogue! 'Our' debate! Sure we bring in the 'talking points' of our elected and wishful politicians, but, we have the chance to educate each other about what goes on in our part of the world...answer the 'why's' and the 'what ifs'. The hardest thing to do is lay aside what we were taught by the people we cherish the most...our families. Our grandfathers...the stories of their survivals & struggles. It's very hard to admit they may have made bad decisions or swallowed lies...one of the reasons people cannot 'go beyond' and dig deep for truth. As a nation of people with everything to lose...we've got to get past it. How else will we do it? We won't learn it in school...where history has been changed, mostly changed to 'lift up' the downtrodden...without recognizing that ALL our ancestors were the downtrodden, those with nothing, why else did they come here? And this goes back to the Native Americans who came here as the 'walking dead'. Here we are. With an amazing opportunity to teach, to learn...to demand our representatives tow the line & protect our borders & our rights within. Nothing more, nothing less. Their job is simple...ours is tough. At least that's how it should be. | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2015-03-26 8:42 AM
Bear - 2015-03-27 6:36 AM Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
 Why are you a liberal, Vickie?
Respectfully, I think it's a waste of time and frankly, a set up to ask her that question.  I doubt anything anyone reads on a forum board is going to change their basic political beliefs. I'd love it if we could keep the dialogue about the candidates and what they bring to the table and how they are handled by the media.    Foundation Horse posted a big eye opening article on FB about how the NY times handled Cruz's announcement Vs Obama's.  The blatant disreggard for any Conservative candidate is criminal.  How are we ever going to get this guy's message loud and clear if the air is full of static?  It's horrible.
There's a reason for asking that question. First, the very nature of the thread itself is basically a debate. There's nothing wrong with debates. In fact, we don't have enough open, honest, spirited debates.
Riden, I don't see anything wrong with asking Vickie this question. If someone asked me why I am a conservative, i wouldn't hesitate to answer. Usually, it's extremely instructive to learn why someone is a liberal. The vast majority won't answer that basic question. Some simply can't. | |
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| Because you just wrote an essay to JD&Ed which 99 percent of us agree with you on. We've known Vickie and her beliefs for how many years now? You're not going to change her mind, nor are you going to deepen your understanding of her opinion. It's only going to create bigger walls that will block us from figuring out the mess we are in as voters. Again, just my opinion. Maybe Vicke will come on here happy as a clam to fill you in on something, I think you already know. There is one question I would love our Dem friends to answer; If Hillary does not jump in, then who would you like to see? Do you folks even support Hillary? I'd really like to know this because it's pretty much been proven that she lied several times under oath. I personally, wouldn't be able to trust her to watch my dog. | |
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           Location: Florida.. | I would like to know why so many support and think its ok for their party (democrats) to lie and do some of the things they do and yet its ok? why would you vote for someone that did what Hillary did?? in all honesty id like a answer..because in my opinion someone that supports that behavior is no better... | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2015-03-26 9:23 AM
Because you just wrote an essay to JD&Ed which 99 percent of us agree with you on.  We've known Vickie and her beliefs for how many years now? You're not going to change her mind, nor are you going to deepen your understanding of her opinion. It's only going to create bigger walls that will block us from figuring out the mess we are in as voters.  Again, just my opinion. Maybe Vicke will come on here happy as a clam to fill you in on something, I think you already know.  There is one question I would love our Dem friends to answer; If Hillary does not jump in, then who would you like to see? Do you folks even support Hillary? I'd really like to know this because it's pretty much been proven that she lied several times under oath. I personally, wouldn't be able to trust her to watch my dog.Â
That's a popular position to take, Kelly, but I don't think it is out of bounds to ask such a question. I'm not sure why she's a liberal. Are you? If you are sitting amongst a bunch of liberals or on a public forum full of liberals, how would you handle the question: "Why are you a conservative?" Would you run away or clam up out of fear of taking a few shots or getting into a debate?
Some people are Democrats because their family has always been Democrat. In those instances, occasionally, when you ask the question, they scratch their heads and think, and then they begin to realize they are not liberal. I use Liberal and Democrat interchangeably here for obvious reason. Some people feel being liberal is to champion the cause of the less fortunate and down trodden, which, I'm sure you'll agree is a fallacy. Some people openly and proudly espouse socialism. Some people claim to be liberal because they like the way it sounds. Liberals are like that. That's why they started using the word, "progressive", because, after all, who doesn't like progress?
I love it when someone asks me why I am a conservative or why I have some libertarian leanings. Liberals often hate being asked this question....because it is very hard to answer, and they have to wrestle with conflicting logic in their own minds. | |
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     Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative? The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol... Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'. Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it. Figure it out. That's what we're here for. Enjoy the ride...grow. Love. Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains. I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other. Perfect! Progressive! | |
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      Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | musikmaker - 2015-03-26 10:46 AM Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative?
The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol...
Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'.
Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it.
Figure it out. That's what we're here for.
Enjoy the ride...grow. Love.
Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains.
I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other.
Perfect! Progressive!
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     Location: Texas | musikmaker - 2015-03-26 9:46 AM Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative?
The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol...
Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'.
Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it.
Figure it out. That's what we're here for.
Enjoy the ride...grow. Love.
Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains.
I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other.
Perfect! Progressive!
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     Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | This is the scariest thing I have ever read & I'm shaken to my core. I'm posting it here because it has everything to do with what we face as a nation & a world. I've long denied a 'conspiracy', I can no longer be ignorant and blind just because it's comfortable. I first became open to the possibilities when I read the 'Creature From Jekyll Island'...this is beyond even that...the Fianl Curtain if you will. http://www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield59.htm
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| bocephus's mama - 2015-03-26 11:11 AM musikmaker - 2015-03-26 9:46 AM Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative?
The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol...
Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'.
Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it.
Figure it out. That's what we're here for.
Enjoy the ride...grow. Love.
Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains.
I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other.
Perfect! Progressive!
Where does it do this?
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