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Location: Midwest | So the girl from the parking lot incident has posted a YouTube video stating her lack of regret. She also has a fb page you can "like". | |
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Location: Texas | barrelracr131 - 2015-07-10 3:36 PM So the girl from the parking lot incident has posted a YouTube video stating her lack of regret. She also has a fb page you can "like". please tell me how to look this up lol. (Not the actual video, the YOLO video lol)
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DcIJnLfcC-0&feature=youtu.be
Nsfw
She shows a picture, and she swears. No nudity. YouTube deletes nudity.
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Ok see... that isn't what I was expecting. My guess is... this girl was extremely intoxicated at Calgary and still is from the looks of it. | |
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Location: NE Texas | I admittedly cringed when I saw the dog come into the camera frame.......and had a flashback from a Nip/Tuck episode.... | |
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| stayceem - 2015-07-10 2:54 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-07-10 2:47 PM
stayceem - 2015-07-10 2:28 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-07-10 1:27 PM
I haven't read all the posts, but for the people who think he shouldn't have been disqualified.
Where do you draw the line?
7 over and under in the calf roping?
The difference between barrel racing and other events, are the rules, barrel racers have their own rules, WPRA.
If this wasn't Tuf Cooper, this wouldn't be an issue.
I do think it was classy that Tuff accepted the ruling, it doesn't sound like he challenged it, and has not bad mouthed Calgary, the association, or animal activists.
So do you suggest we take away all whips? Theres no perfect "draw the line." If the horse was showing injury, then thats excessive. We have a local organization here where only leather bats are allowed... maybe rodeo needs to go that route... cant hit your horse in front of the shoulder, only use leather bats, etc etc...
This wasnt about rules... this was about maltreatment of an animal which should be universal to all events. Therefore, it is the same as barrel racing.
I also agree that Tuf is a classy person. I have met him and one of the most pleasant people I have ever spoken to. Fine, maybe... DQ? I think thats too far.
It is a rule excessive use of force, which is subjective, but all the judges, and committee members agreed he used excessive force.
As I said this ruling has nothing to do with barrel racing, as each has their own set of rules.
Calgary stampede, all events except barrels
Wpra only barrels
Edited to add the rules are in place and enforced so animals are not injured, it should never get to the point where horses are injured due to excessive whipping to be disqualified.
To me if you are excessively whipping your horse to the point of injury, you shouldn't own animals
I am not disagreeing with you... it shouldnt ever come to that point but theres a lot of things it shouldnt come to.
My point is that if they are truly looking out for the welfare of their animals, it shouldnt be governed for only certain events. If you dont want excessive whipping, that should be in ALL events. Thats my opinion and why i disagree with the situation.
I get whats done is done, Tuf has handled it graciously... the Topaz letter is just showing support for how he DOES treat his animals as his name is being dragged through the mud.
I thought they own Rio (I believe thats who he was on??? ) ... so it wouldnt really be very impactful if his Dad wrote a letter in his defense.
You are missing the point
The chuckwagons are governed by the world professional chuckwagon association, NOT Calgary stampede.
The barrel racing is governed by the WPRA, not Calgary stampede, this is why the one barrel racer was not disqualified.
The cowboy events are governed by Calgary stampede, hence they can make their own rules.
Calgary has been adamant to not allow the team ropers, and have had sponsors come forward to put up the money, and they are not hurting because of the exclusion of team roping, chances are won't be hurting if they get rid of barrel racing, or even calf roping.
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| cheryl makofka - 2015-07-10 3:52 PM
stayceem - 2015-07-10 2:54 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-07-10 2:47 PM
stayceem - 2015-07-10 2:28 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-07-10 1:27 PM
I haven't read all the posts, but for the people who think he shouldn't have been disqualified.
Where do you draw the line?
7 over and under in the calf roping?
The difference between barrel racing and other events, are the rules, barrel racers have their own rules, WPRA.
If this wasn't Tuf Cooper, this wouldn't be an issue.
I do think it was classy that Tuff accepted the ruling, it doesn't sound like he challenged it, and has not bad mouthed Calgary, the association, or animal activists.
So do you suggest we take away all whips? Theres no perfect "draw the line." If the horse was showing injury, then thats excessive. We have a local organization here where only leather bats are allowed... maybe rodeo needs to go that route... cant hit your horse in front of the shoulder, only use leather bats, etc etc...
This wasnt about rules... this was about maltreatment of an animal which should be universal to all events. Therefore, it is the same as barrel racing.
I also agree that Tuf is a classy person. I have met him and one of the most pleasant people I have ever spoken to. Fine, maybe... DQ? I think thats too far.
It is a rule excessive use of force, which is subjective, but all the judges, and committee members agreed he used excessive force.
As I said this ruling has nothing to do with barrel racing, as each has their own set of rules.
Calgary stampede, all events except barrels
Wpra only barrels
Edited to add the rules are in place and enforced so animals are not injured, it should never get to the point where horses are injured due to excessive whipping to be disqualified.
To me if you are excessively whipping your horse to the point of injury, you shouldn't own animals
I am not disagreeing with you... it shouldnt ever come to that point but theres a lot of things it shouldnt come to.
My point is that if they are truly looking out for the welfare of their animals, it shouldnt be governed for only certain events. If you dont want excessive whipping, that should be in ALL events. Thats my opinion and why i disagree with the situation.
I get whats done is done, Tuf has handled it graciously... the Topaz letter is just showing support for how he DOES treat his animals as his name is being dragged through the mud.
I thought they own Rio (I believe thats who he was on??? ) ... so it wouldnt really be very impactful if his Dad wrote a letter in his defense.
You are missing the point
The chuckwagons are governed by the world professional chuckwagon association, NOT Calgary stampede.
The barrel racing is governed by the WPRA, not Calgary stampede, this is why the one barrel racer was not disqualified.
The cowboy events are governed by Calgary stampede, hence they can make their own rules.
Calgary has been adamant to not allow the team ropers, and have had sponsors come forward to put up the money, and they are not hurting because of the exclusion of team roping, chances are won't be hurting if they get rid of barrel racing, or even calf roping.
I think you're missing my point... I understand they each are governed by a certain agency. However, I think that mistreatment of an animal should be a rule for ALL contestants... and that calgary should have the rule apply to all, not some... There I am sure is a way to make that happen. Otherwise, I think they're "rulings" are a joke. One can "beat" her horse in the barrel racing but he cant "beat" his horse in the calf roping... I am using beat sacastically in this circumstance.
The purpose of that rule for the cowboys is to keep the livestock safe at their event... but its worthless if they're only keeping some safe. | |
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| stayceem - 2015-07-10 4:53 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-07-10 3:52 PM
stayceem - 2015-07-10 2:54 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-07-10 2:47 PM
stayceem - 2015-07-10 2:28 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-07-10 1:27 PM
I haven't read all the posts, but for the people who think he shouldn't have been disqualified.
Where do you draw the line?
7 over and under in the calf roping?
The difference between barrel racing and other events, are the rules, barrel racers have their own rules, WPRA.
If this wasn't Tuf Cooper, this wouldn't be an issue.
I do think it was classy that Tuff accepted the ruling, it doesn't sound like he challenged it, and has not bad mouthed Calgary, the association, or animal activists.
So do you suggest we take away all whips? Theres no perfect "draw the line." If the horse was showing injury, then thats excessive. We have a local organization here where only leather bats are allowed... maybe rodeo needs to go that route... cant hit your horse in front of the shoulder, only use leather bats, etc etc...
This wasnt about rules... this was about maltreatment of an animal which should be universal to all events. Therefore, it is the same as barrel racing.
I also agree that Tuf is a classy person. I have met him and one of the most pleasant people I have ever spoken to. Fine, maybe... DQ? I think thats too far.
It is a rule excessive use of force, which is subjective, but all the judges, and committee members agreed he used excessive force.
As I said this ruling has nothing to do with barrel racing, as each has their own set of rules.
Calgary stampede, all events except barrels
Wpra only barrels
Edited to add the rules are in place and enforced so animals are not injured, it should never get to the point where horses are injured due to excessive whipping to be disqualified.
To me if you are excessively whipping your horse to the point of injury, you shouldn't own animals
I am not disagreeing with you... it shouldnt ever come to that point but theres a lot of things it shouldnt come to.
My point is that if they are truly looking out for the welfare of their animals, it shouldnt be governed for only certain events. If you dont want excessive whipping, that should be in ALL events. Thats my opinion and why i disagree with the situation.
I get whats done is done, Tuf has handled it graciously... the Topaz letter is just showing support for how he DOES treat his animals as his name is being dragged through the mud.
I thought they own Rio (I believe thats who he was on??? ) ... so it wouldnt really be very impactful if his Dad wrote a letter in his defense.
You are missing the point
The chuckwagons are governed by the world professional chuckwagon association, NOT Calgary stampede.
The barrel racing is governed by the WPRA, not Calgary stampede, this is why the one barrel racer was not disqualified.
The cowboy events are governed by Calgary stampede, hence they can make their own rules.
Calgary has been adamant to not allow the team ropers, and have had sponsors come forward to put up the money, and they are not hurting because of the exclusion of team roping, chances are won't be hurting if they get rid of barrel racing, or even calf roping.
I think you're missing my point... I understand they each are governed by a certain agency. However, I think that mistreatment of an animal should be a rule for ALL contestants... and that calgary should have the rule apply to all, not some... There I am sure is a way to make that happen. Otherwise, I think they're "rulings" are a joke. One can "beat" her horse in the barrel racing but he cant "beat" his horse in the calf roping... I am using beat sacastically in this circumstance.
The purpose of that rule for the cowboys is to keep the livestock safe at their event... but its worthless if they're only keeping some safe.
Calgary can't have blanket rules, as wpra has their own set of rules in place. Calgary is the venue in this situation, the wpra is the event.
For the other events Calgary is the venue and event.
It is like going to Pendleton for a jackpot, not the rodeo, the Pendleton arena committee cannot impose their own rules in
Ie can only whip a horse 3 times, running in the gate will result in disqualification, when they are only the venue. If they were the host then they could.
If you want to see barrel racers being disqualified for excessive abuse, or to ban whipping then I believe you would have to be a member and take it to the board for a rule change.
As wpra has to have the same rules for all their events, they cannot change rules for certain venues | |
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| And to me, that's is worthless to enforce rules that are not enforced throughout the grounds. A rodeo can follow wpra rules and Calgary could still make a rule about excessive force that applies to all competing on their grounds. Many rodeo arenas/venue have their own rules and also sanctioned by an organization.
I am certainly not opposed to whips but what I'm saying is it sets a pretty bad example to discipline one person and not others that use whips in the same fashion just in different events.
I guarantee you there's a way to have venue rules and keeping it wpra. Some barrel races here are sanctioned multiple times and not all wpra rules are enforced.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | pinx05 - 2015-07-10 3:48 PM
Ok see... that isn't what I was expecting. My guess is... this girl was extremely intoxicated at Calgary and still is from the looks of it.
Modesty is one of the things that makes us human. Animals behave like that in public, humans aren't supposed to act like that. Humanity is on a downward spiral. | |
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Location: Midwest | pinx05 - 2015-07-10 3:48 PM
Ok see... that isn't what I was expecting. My guess is... this girl was extremely intoxicated at Calgary and still is from the looks of it.
It honestly was sad to watch. I don't know what is going on in her life, but I think she has some troublesome issues to deal with. | |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | barrelracr131 - 2015-07-11 6:34 AM
pinx05 - 2015-07-10 3:48 PM
Ok see... that isn't what I was expecting. My guess is... this girl was extremely intoxicated at Calgary and still is from the looks of it.
It honestly was sad to watch. I don't know what is going on in her life, but I think she has some troublesome issues to deal with.
That video was more painful to watch than the one of the actual threesome. I think she's going to REALLY regret making a video "addressing" it. Everyone would eventually forget about the threesome video, but it's going to be harder now. She seems like she's trying to get social media fame out of it. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | stayceem - 2015-07-11 7:57 AM And to me, that's is worthless to enforce rules that are not enforced throughout the grounds. A rodeo can follow wpra rules and Calgary could still make a rule about excessive force that applies to all competing on their grounds. Many rodeo arenas/venue have their own rules and also sanctioned by an organization. I am certainly not opposed to whips but what I'm saying is it sets a pretty bad example to discipline one person and not others that use whips in the same fashion just in different events. I guarantee you there's a way to have venue rules and keeping it wpra. Some barrel races here are sanctioned multiple times and not all wpra rules are enforced.
Normally, the primary sanction sets the ground rules. So whichever is listed first. | |
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| It is sad. I only watched the first 5-10 seconds of her video addressing it and she is a hot mess with issues, hopefully she can get some help. It really looks like she wants attention. I'll pray for her.
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Location: sunny california | that pic will be out there forever. parents are probably very proud of their young lady. Someday it will make nice addition to her wedding slideshow... | |
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Location: Texas | Herbie - 2015-07-10 8:31 AM
DunIt - 2015-07-10 7:56 AM Still dont think its as damaging to the sport of rodeo as the viral video of the threesome!Â
I saw that on instagram and am dying to know who the "bull riders" were.  In the words of the great poet Ron Burgundy, "Stay classy, CS!". LOLÂ
 I read it was Sean Cameron and Philip Blair. | |
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Location: Arkansas | Frodo - 2015-07-10 7:33 AM
readytorodeo - 2015-07-10 2:07 AM I watched the video. He got after the horse with his rope. I don't think it's abuse. Looked like no more than what we do with a over and under. On the other hand two horses were euthanized because of injuries during the chuck wagon races. Now that is abuse!
 The chuck wagon race is an accident waiting to happen and the horses are always the victims.Â
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| Chandler's Mom - 2015-07-12 2:42 AM Frodo - 2015-07-10 7:33 AM readytorodeo - 2015-07-10 2:07 AM I watched the video. He got after the horse with his rope. I don't think it's abuse. Looked like no more than what we do with a over and under. On the other hand two horses were euthanized because of injuries during the chuck wagon races. Now that is abuse! The chuck wagon race is an accident waiting to happen and the horses are always the victims. Has anyone ever been to the Clinton chuck wagon races? Dear Lord. . .
I am not a fan of the chuck wagon races, they are a tangled mess when a wreck happens, almost guranteeing a severe or fatal injury to the horses. | |
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| Â Funny how when rodeos branches away from the PRCA...everyone was all for it. They were all about the $$$ and how awesome it was to show the PRCA that they needed to do better. Now that these large payout, unsanctioned venues are enforcing the rules they came up with...people are complaining about how "unfair" they are. You can't have it both ways. If an unsanctioned, large payout rodeo says contestants have to all wear purple jeans with pink polka dots and unicorns on their shirts...you'd better know that rule and start shopping. | |
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