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Location: Wisconsin | Can someone please explain to me why his numbers are so low compared to other states in his accomplishments?
The reason I brought up the taxes is because he always says he has lowered taxes & he has not. Yes, he decreased them on a state level so then our taxes have to be increased on the local level.
Thank God my REPUBLICAN representative voted against the recent budget. The current budget really hurts rural areas. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | pepsi - 2015-07-21 1:03 PM Oh my God. After reading the last 5 pages I realize how wrong I am. All of you that live outside of Wisconsin know so much more than me. Tonight, with all of my Wisconsin friends, I will sit around the fire and sing kumbaya and we will tell ourselves how wonderful Scott Walker has made our lives.
This forum shows that no matter what the numbers show, Scott Walker will be liked by you since he is a republican. If he was a democrat and had the numbers he has and the staff convictions under his administration, you would be howling.
Give me a break.
Really? I don't see where anyone has said that they know MORE than you but you have presented very few FACTS.....only disgruntled opinions and rumors. You started with a "lie" about his education. You used property taxes as an argument against him and have been proven WRONG......
I asked you a question regarding his welfare reform but you can't (or won't) answer that...
You accuse anyone who is actually discussing and trying to learn about him only doing so because he is a Republican.....WRONG.....I will vote for the MAN and I don't care what party he belongs to ...... |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | pepsi - 2015-07-21 1:22 PM Can someone please explain to me why his numbers are so low compared to other states in his accomplishments?
The reason I brought up the taxes is because he always says he has lowered taxes & he has not. Yes, he decreased them on a state level so then our taxes have to be increased on the local level.
Thank God my REPUBLICAN representative voted against the recent budget. The current budget really hurts rural areas.
Because if you look at the graphic that I posted, he inherited 3.6 BILLION in deficit....you don't dig out of that kind of hole in just a few years...... |
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Location: Wisconsin | And I asked you about why his "accomplishments" are so low compared to other states and you have not answered that.
My only first hand knowledge about welfare reform is this. A person has to no longer go to the local Department of Social Services to apply for benefits. They can apply online and the application is now processed by a consortium over the computer. Scott consolidated the offices to reduce staff and allowed online applications. In my rural community, families are well known and we usually know when they are tying to pull something over on us.
Now with the new streamline method, fraudulent claims have increased.
He hasn't really made any changes in the amount or type of benefits. Wisconsin does not have welfare. We have W-2 payments where a person has to go to job training in order to get cash assistance. We also have food stamps, child care assistance, medical assistance and/or badgercare.
Less staff but more fraudulent claims.
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Location: Wisconsin | How does the deficit that he inherited explain why we are 49th in job growth thru 2016? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | pepsi - 2015-07-21 1:34 PM
And I asked you about why his "accomplishments" are so low compared to other states and you have not answered that.
My only first hand knowledge about welfare reform is this. A person has to no longer go to the local Department of Social Services to apply for benefits. They can apply online and the application is now processed by a consortium over the computer. Scott consolidated the offices to reduce staff and allowed online applications. In my rural community, families are well known and we usually know when they are tying to pull something over on us.
Now with the new streamline method, fraudulent claims have increased.
He hasn't really made any changes in the amount or type of benefits. Wisconsin does not have welfare. We have W-2 payments where a person has to go to job training in order to get cash assistance. We also have food stamps, child care assistance, medical assistance and/or badgercare.
Less staff but more fraudulent claims.
Can you please provide us with some information on this? As the saying goes, "The devil's in the details." I wouldn't be surprised to learn you are correct, but I want to see more about this. I want to know if/how this is Walker's fault, if it indeed is true. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | pepsi - 2015-07-21 1:39 PM
How does the deficit that he inherited explain why we are 49th in job growth thru 2016?
This is a good question. It sounds to me that job growth was abysmal for quite some time before Walker took office in 2011. I do know that the improvements in unemployment numbers are pretty impressive....better than most. |
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Location: Wisconsin | I don't know how to provide any more "proof" about applying for benefits. Call a county department of social services in Wisconsin and ask how to apply for benefits. Better yet, go on line. I don't remember when the change was implemented but I know it was done under Walker and it is statewide. |
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Location: Wisconsin | And remember, unemployment numbers can be deceiving. Just like they can be nationwide. A lot of people have run out benefits or just quit looking.
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Location: Wisconsin | Riden Fly, I agree with you. He really divided Wisconsin. However, things have settled down. Because of his dismal performance, his supporters aren't so vocal now.
The sad part is, I don't know if there is anyone running for office that I believe can get us out of this mess. I don't think Walker has the ability to do it. However, if you think the Koch brothers can, go ahead and vote for him. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RidenFly - 2015-07-21 1:58 PM Can I ask why some of us are so adamant in defending Mr. Walker? (I don't know him, so no Scotty for me.) My point is, there are some great points about him, for sure, but no matter how you slice it, his stats aren't that spectacular.
I am sorry that you feel that presenting FACTS or asking for facts is defending him......HOW do you vet a candidate????? Blindly accept whatever is thrown out there as opinions or rumors....tsk! tsk! |
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Location: Wisconsin | NJJ I think people are tired of fighting. Obama did nothing to pull us together as a country. Walker would be the same way and that is a "fact". We have already experienced that here in Wisconsin. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | pepsi - 2015-07-21 2:19 PM NJJ I think people are tired of fighting. Obama did nothing to pull us together as a country. Walker would be the same way and that is a "fact". We have already experienced that here in Wisconsin.
I am not fighting with you but I just found your "source" for your statistics......it was TWO YEARS AGO..........Jobs & Economy in the Republican Budget
While many other states are starting to see improvement in their overall economic health, Wisconsin continues to lag behind. Statistic after statistic shows Wisconsin among the bottom states for economic growth. Below is a summary of where Wisconsin ranks with regard to job creation and economic development:
*Wisconsin ranks 42nd as best state for business. (Forbes Magazine's Annual "Best States for Business" rankings, December 2012)
*Wisconsin ranks 44th in the nation in job growth. (Bureau of Labor Statistics--Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages, 3rd Quarter 2012)
*Wisconsin ranks 45th in wage growth. (Bureau of Labor Statistics--Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages, 3rd Quarter 2012)
*Wisconsin ranks 49th in economic outlook. (Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia leading index report, April 2013)
*Wisconsin will be 49th in job growth through 2016. (Forbes Magazine's Annual "Best States for Business" rankings, December 2012)
*Wisconsin ranks 50th in short-term job growth. (U.S. Chamber of Commerce "Enterprising States" Study, April 2013) |
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Location: Wisconsin | Can you find anything more current? Because to tell you the truth and believe me it is the truth, things around here really haven't changed too much. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | pepsi - 2015-07-21 2:35 PM Can you find anything more current? Because to tell you the truth and believe me it is the truth, things around here really haven't changed too much.
That certainly may be....and I appreciate your insight......we have a long way to go before the election so we will just have to see what is discovered.........I did just read that he was leading the Iowa polls (of course, he is almost "local" boy to them....lol) |
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Location: Wisconsin | No military background that I am familiar with. On immigration, try googling Scott Walker immigration Plainview Iowa. There was an article recently when Scott was in Iowa and a family approached him about his stance on immigration. Scott has flip-flopped on this issue. |
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Location: home for the winter...what a dumb idea | From WI born raised love my home state.....I am 28 have seen my state from a small child who's father had to travel and leave the state for year's to get work during the Doyle year( he was a union sheetmetle worker) my mom had to go back to work in 03 because there wasn't any work thanks to Doyle....when I officialy entered the work force in 05 I could not find work ....I worked for tips at a dude ranch.....gas was 3.50 a gal min wage 7.25....by the time I put my self through collage and Doyle had been gov for quite some time I couldn't even get a job in 08...I worked for cash under the table....I voted for walker. I know my parents who still live there have nothing but good things to say about walker as do both my non union brother's who work construction. They are younger then me and neither had any problem getting a great paying job. My sister who didn't go to collage till 2 years ago (she is 30)had no problem finding a job in her field when she graduated in 2014. My grandma is a retired public school teacher....she was very worried about her retirement when walker changed the school union stuff. But nothing has changed for her. She would be the first to tell you that their were plenty of told bittys that were still teaching from when she was just for the free health care..... |
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Location: Wisconsin | That is great that your grandmother's pension has so far not been taken by Walker. Hopefully that will never happen. Do you live in rural Wisconsin? My husband is a master plumber that worked construction. In order to get a job after Walker was elected he had to drive over 2 hrs for a job. He finally stopped plumbing--wasn't worth paying the licensing fees, completing his continuing education verses the pay that was offered in rural Wisconsin. He is now in natural gas which is a lot more stable at the moment.
I live in a town of about 3,000. We lost over 20 teachers after Walker was elected--our entire high school English Department. A good friend of mine teaches in town. She thought Walker had some good ideas. Her husand is a manager of a local factory--help local businesses. My friend, the teacher, only has a bachelor degree but is a great teacher. She was hoping he would implement merit pay based on performance. She is still waiting. Didn't happen. Just a loss in benefits and take home pay.
A lot of us were hoping for merit pay so that good workers would be rewarded like in the private sector and the bad employees weeded out. Didn't happen. |
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