Bibliafarm - 2015-10-03 12:10 PM  Mentally Ill dont shoot because your christain.. I dont believe it for a second..sicko yes.. mentally ill no..he was  pathetic to know who to shoot.. so mentally ill no..

sodapop - 2015-10-03 2:34 PM If he hated Christians, why wouldn't he just go shoot up a big church during a packed service?  I don't think anyone killing others should get off of a murder charge, but I think people who kill others are not in their right mind.  They are surely crazy and mentally ill to want to kill.  Not mentally ill as in pleading an insantity plea to get a lesser charge, but people with no conscience or concern for human life must have something wrong with them.  Don't they? If they are a sicko, doesn't that mean they are mentally unstable because they will do just about anything with no concern for others? 

sodapop - 2015-10-03 3:34 PM If he hated Christians, why wouldn't he just go shoot up a big church during a packed service?  I don't think anyone killing others should get off of a murder charge, but I think people who kill others are not in their right mind.  They are surely crazy and mentally ill to want to kill.  Not mentally ill as in pleading an insantity plea to get a lesser charge, but people with no conscience or concern for human life must have something wrong with them.  Don't they? If they are a sicko, doesn't that mean they are mentally unstable because they will do just about anything with no concern for others? 

sodapop - 2015-10-03 12:34 PM If he hated Christians, why wouldn't he just go shoot up a big church during a packed service?  I don't think anyone killing others should get off of a murder charge, but I think people who kill others are not in their right mind.  They are surely crazy and mentally ill to want to kill.  Not mentally ill as in pleading an insantity plea to get a lesser charge, but people with no conscience or concern for human life must have something wrong with them.  Don't they? If they are a sicko, doesn't that mean they are mentally unstable because they will do just about anything with no concern for others? 

OregonBR - 2015-10-03 3:46 PM


Only he knows why he chose where he did to carry out his "suicide by cop".  He was a student at the school and he was enrolled in that class.  He had all his guns (14 of them) obtained legally or they were gifts.  He was disenchanted with organized religion. I'm not sure where he was from. In Oregon there is a background check required on all legal handgun purchases (I had to submit my information when I bought my pistol). The school's "gun free zone" doesn't trump concealed carry permits.  There were people on campus who had CCP's and were packing. But they were not in this classroom.  The elapsed time between the realization that there was a shooter until the Roseburg police showed up at the campus was 5 minutes. They found and engaged the shooter in the following 2 minutes. 2 minutes after that he was "neutralized".  The ME said the official cause of the shooter's death was suicide. That's what I remember from watching the news conference from this morning. It's on Fox news if you want to watch it.  I have no solutions, but I know disarming the citizens is NOT the solution.    

Bibliafarm - 2015-10-03 3:43 PMits time we stop making excuses for these monstors.  

OregonBR - 2015-10-03 3:46 PMOnly he knows why he chose where he did to carry out his "suicide by cop".  He was a student at the school and he was enrolled in that class.  He had all his guns (14 of them) obtained legally or they were gifts.  He was disenchanted with organized religion. I'm not sure where he was from. In Oregon there is a background check required on all legal handgun purchases (I had to submit my information when I bought my pistol). The school's "gun free zone" doesn't trump concealed carry permits.  There were people on campus who had CCP's and were packing. But they were not in this classroom.  The elapsed time between the realization that there was a shooter until the Roseburg police showed up at the campus was 5 minutes. They found and engaged the shooter in the following 2 minutes. 2 minutes after that he was "neutralized".  The ME said the official cause of the shooter's death was suicide. That's what I remember from watching the news conference from this morning. It's on Fox news if you want to watch it.  I have no solutions, but I know disarming the citizens is NOT the solution.    

komet. - 2015-10-03 3:04 PM


Only in your dreams does a CC trump a 'gun free zone'!!!

OregonBR - 2015-10-03 3:16 PM http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/03/gun_rights_adv... Umpqua Community College, however, was not a gun free zone. A 2011, state court decisionprohibited public colleges from banning guns on campus. The decision stemmed from a suit filed by the Oregon Firearm Education Foundation, a gun rights group. There was an effort to pass a new law to reinstate the ability of public colleges to ban guns. That measure was defeated by gun rights advocates. UPDATE OCT 1, 2015 8:09 PM The conservative site Breitbart and others assert that guns were banned at UCC. This is not true. The student code of conduct bans guns "without written authorization." Under Oregon law, the university could not ban people with a valid concealed carry license from bringing their weapons on campus. (They could ban gun from various buildings and facilities.) Conservative writer Dana Loesch, who initially claimed the campus was a "gun free zone," updated her article to clarify that individuals with concealed carry permits were allowed to bring guns on campus. There was, in fact, someone on campus with a concealed carry weapon at the time of the massacre. A local reporter explained to CNN that it was legal for him to have such a weapon on campus. I learned something too. I thought it was a gun free zone. But it's not because the legislature passed the law saying a CCP allows at gun on college campus'.

hammer_time - 2015-10-03 6:10 PMI'd rather there be more guns and stricter laws/qualifications for obtaining a gun (specific license, training course, waiting period, etc) than leave it up to the people to decide who is or is not crazy and needs institutionalized.  That scares me more than anything!!

hammer_time - 2015-10-03 6:10 PM

I'd rather there be more guns and stricter laws/qualifications for obtaining a gun (specific license, training course, waiting period, etc) than leave it up to the people to decide who is or is not crazy and needs institutionalized.  That scares me more than anything!!

crapshooter - 2015-10-03 8:29 PM

Even if you have mental health care a lot of the crazy people won't go.