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oranges
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-10-30 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: Looking for Judges Decision Jacobs vs Loflin


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oranges - 2015-10-29 3:56 PM

Big D meaning Divorce?

I was surprised when I read in an earlier post there was court pending, I wondered why she wasn't in the tops at alot of rodeos this summer.


Ummm.... no. I would suggest searching it on Urban Dictionary. It will have the definition.

from the Urban Dictionary defenition
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big+DBig D

1) Dallas, Texas
2) divorce
I'm goin' through the Big D and I don't mean Dallas.
-- Mark Chesnutt, "Goin' Through the Big D"

Ok I was wrong though, says she got the D not Big D, so what does that mean
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-10-30 1:31 PM
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quickdraw - 2015-10-30 1:22 PM If they are not in agreement, I would expect the owner to argue that appraisal figure. That is a nice mare but 700,000? Regardless, my heart breaks for Christy knowing she made that mare what she is. I guess she was lucky to get to ride her so many years but this is why I would never want to be competing at that level on a horse I do not own.

You do know there's this guy - Ryan Lovendahl - that was also very successful on the mare prior to anyone else running her?
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Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-10-30 1:53 PM
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quickdraw - 2015-10-30 1:22 PM If they are not in agreement, I would expect the owner to argue that appraisal figure. That is a nice mare but 700,000? Regardless, my heart breaks for Christy knowing she made that mare what she is. I guess she was lucky to get to ride her so many years but this is why I would never want to be competing at that level on a horse I do not own.

Ryan Lovendahl futuritied Movin and won a ton on her! She was very successful way before Christy got to swing a leg over her.  
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-10-30 2:15 PM
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oranges - 2015-10-30 1:28 PM
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oranges - 2015-10-29 3:56 PM Big D meaning Divorce? I was surprised when I read in an earlier post there was court pending, I wondered why she wasn't in the tops at alot of rodeos this summer.
Ummm.... no. I would suggest searching it on Urban Dictionary. It will have the definition.
from the Urban Dictionary defenition http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big+DBig D 1) Dallas, Texas 2) divorce I'm goin' through the Big D and I don't mean Dallas. -- Mark Chesnutt, "Goin' Through the Big D" Ok I was wrong though, says she got the D not Big D, so what does that mean

LOL....you didn't google far enough .....  
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-10-30 2:15 PM
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I'm sure there are experts...."specialists", if you will, who know how to compel a judge to rule in favor of putting a horse up for auction to settle this kind of dispute. If a person just happened to be close friends with these like-minded, experienced, experts, this approach is being considered.
Of course, getting someone to buy a horse for a ridiculous sum of money is the hard part, and then you have to be able to offer something in return for turning that horse over to you. One must be skilled in this ancient art.
Tricky business.
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freddymac
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2015-10-30 2:18 PM
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I agree I think she is priced right compared to what Kellie's Chick just sold for....
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nousername
Reg. Oct 2015
Posted 2015-10-30 2:37 PM
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Bear - 2015-10-29 5:59 PM

Serious question....is it possible that a judge could order the horse be put up for auction?

My understanding is no, the sole legal ownership is Mr. J's. There was never a contract, paper, written agreement etc. to contest---
She wanted to claim it had been given as a gift (The horse was already six figures when they bought her after Ryan Lovendahl futuried her).
I'm sure if there were 5 different people doing an appraisal, you'd get 5 different figures/opinions.
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oranges
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-10-30 3:01 PM
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oranges - 2015-10-29 3:56 PM Big D meaning Divorce? I was surprised when I read in an earlier post there was court pending, I wondered why she wasn't in the tops at alot of rodeos this summer.
Ummm.... no. I would suggest searching it on Urban Dictionary. It will have the definition.
from the Urban Dictionary defenition http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big+DBig D 1) Dallas, Texas 2) divorce I'm goin' through the Big D and I don't mean Dallas. -- Mark Chesnutt, "Goin' Through the Big D" Ok I was wrong though, says she got the D not Big D, so what does that mean
LOL....you didn't google far enough ..... Β 

another name for one of these .... Β 

I'm so slow........


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Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-10-30 3:04 PM
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oranges - 2015-10-29 3:56 PM Big D meaning Divorce? I was surprised when I read in an earlier post there was court pending, I wondered why she wasn't in the tops at alot of rodeos this summer.
Ummm.... no. I would suggest searching it on Urban Dictionary. It will have the definition.
from the Urban Dictionary defenition http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big+DBig D 1) Dallas, Texas 2) divorce I'm goin' through the Big D and I don't mean Dallas. -- Mark Chesnutt, "Goin' Through the Big D" Ok I was wrong though, says she got the D not Big D, so what does that mean
LOL....you didn't google far enough .....  
another name for one of these ....  
I'm so slow........

couldn't help myself  
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2015-10-30 3:29 PM
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komet. - 2015-10-29 5:55 PM Would someone have to pay Personal Property Taxes every year on a 70k horse?
Β Do horses count as personal property?
Not that I know of .... even if they are part of a personal business, you don't pay taxes on every asset of the business ... You don't pay taxes on every cow, only what she produces IF you sell it. Β If you don't sell it, no income so no taxes. That's my understanding. Β 
I guess it depends on the state. I worked for a dairy farmer that moved out of California because they taxed him quarterly on everything. The cows, grain bins, grain IN the bins, home, barn, ect..ect
Livestock DOES get taxed in many states as a yearly "personal property tax"....Arkansas & MIssouri are two that I do know that tax them, along with trailers, tractors, etc.....but on the other hand property tax is really low. Β 
Arkansas? Β Really? Β Huh. Never heard that.Β 
Β I think we pay $25 a horse on ours. I'm always a smart *** and say I'm going to leave off a horse and see if they drive around counting horses in people's pasturesΒ 

Β I can confidently say they don't drive around counting horses...at least not where I live.

They drive around here regularly and take photos. Although, I think more to monitor property improvements than livestock.
The first year I filed I listed everything, but noticed in the years since, the animals and old tractor are no longer listed. I'm not sure why and I didn't ask...
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ropenrun
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-10-30 4:27 PM
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komet. - 2015-10-29 5:55 PM Would someone have to pay Personal Property Taxes every year on a 70k horse?
 Do horses count as personal property?
Not that I know of .... even if they are part of a personal business, you don't pay taxes on every asset of the business ... You don't pay taxes on every cow, only what she produces IF you sell it.  If you don't sell it, no income so no taxes. That's my understanding.  
That depends on where you live.  W pay taxes on every head of livestock (cows, horses, chickens( whether they are part of a business or not.   And they catch on to those who don't pay taxes on horses via getting a brand inspection.  There are a couple other ways they check to know if per capita taxes are being paid as well.

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SoDak
Reg. Jan 2013
Posted 2015-10-30 4:39 PM
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freddymac - 2015-10-30 2:18 PM

I agree I think she is priced right compared to what Kellie's Chick just sold for....

I somehow missed that and was wondering what you would price a horse of that caliber. what was it?
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Kaycee
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-10-30 4:51 PM
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komet. - 2015-10-29 5:55 PM Would someone have to pay Personal Property Taxes every year on a 70k horse?
 Do horses count as personal property?
Not that I know of .... even if they are part of a personal business, you don't pay taxes on every asset of the business ... You don't pay taxes on every cow, only what she produces IF you sell it.  If you don't sell it, no income so no taxes. That's my understanding.  
I guess it depends on the state. I worked for a dairy farmer that moved out of California because they taxed him quarterly on everything. The cows, grain bins, grain IN the bins, home, barn, ect..ect
Livestock DOES get taxed in many states as a yearly "personal property tax"....Arkansas & MIssouri are two that I do know that tax them, along with trailers, tractors, etc.....but on the other hand property tax is really low.  
Arkansas?  Really?  Huh. Never heard that. 
 I think we pay $25 a horse on ours. I'm always a smart *** and say I'm going to leave off a horse and see if they drive around counting horses in people's pastures 
 I can confidently say they don't drive around counting horses...at least not where I live.
They drive around here regularly and take photos. Although, I think more to monitor property improvements than livestock. The first year I filed I listed everything, but noticed in the years since, the animals and old tractor are no longer listed. I'm not sure why and I didn't ask...

I'm quite sure municipalities are making great use of Google Earth but ****ed if they can't find the funds to fix our roads!!!  
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-10-30 5:52 PM
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I don't know where most of you people live..... But where I come from, the Tax A$$(hole)essor can walk over your property whenever he/she wants to. Just another loophole to allow them to get around a Search Warrant...

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quickdraw
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2015-10-30 7:19 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2015-10-30 1:53 PM

quickdraw - 2015-10-30 1:22 PM If they are not in agreement, I would expect the owner to argue that appraisal figure. That is a nice mare but 700,000? Regardless, my heart breaks for Christy knowing she made that mare what she is. I guess she was lucky to get to ride her so many years but this is why I would never want to be competing at that level on a horse I do not own.

Ryan Lovendahl futuritied Movin and won a ton on her! She was very successful way before Christy got to swing a leg over her. Β 

Oops. My mistake. I didn't realize that.
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Reg. May 2006
Posted 2015-10-31 12:17 AM
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Did Christy flush any embryos out of Movin?  I thought she had, just wondering who those babies will belong to. 
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-10-31 6:49 AM
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Have a friend that was there. Some of the speculation and bad info on this thread is laughable. But continue on. It's great as far as the entertainment goes.

Just an FYI for those that are interested, Skye and Andrea did end up winning the average at Mt States Circuit Finals last weekend.
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-10-31 6:52 AM
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Colorado doesn't tax horses as personal property.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-10-31 8:30 AM
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if you know things posted here to be false, would you favor us with the truth? The truth is preferable to rumors and gossip.
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-10-31 8:47 AM
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barrelracr131 - 2015-10-31 7:30 AM

if you know things posted here to be false, would you favor us with the truth? The truth is preferable to rumors and gossip.

Why? So the group of hyena's that frequent these types of threads can come and try to rip my throat out like they usually do? No thanks. The OP asked for documents and I don't have any so my info could be argued as not being factual.

I'm sure the real facts will eventually come out without my help.
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