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| teamthompson - 2016-03-15 8:44 PM What about the running horses???
Panther Mountain?
Storm Cat?
Holy Bart?
Howling Corona?
Rare Cigar?
Paddys Irish Whiskey???
Kool Quick Kid??
To me, Panther Mountain horses are hidden gems and crossed with DTF on the momma's side is a brilliant cross!!!
I have a 4 yr old filly that is by DMNV Mountable (Panther Mountain X Cheyennes Bullion) and out of Dashing Guitar (DTF X Flaming Guitar) and i would take a barn full if I could!! She has been a dream to deal with and ride! Super smart and very willing!!
I don't know alot about Flaming Jet horses, but I have had BB and DTF....
I also have a 12 yr old gelding by Zippy Zevi Dasher X Chicks Sugar Time... Needless to say he is a very DELICATE horse. He is the fastest, most athletic horse I have thrown a leg over but you have to make him think it's his way, keep him as calm as possible and do NOT push him or he will come unglued!! He is very sensitive to his surroundings and me. He feeds off my energy.
I believe the DTF on the mom's side is where the "magic" crossing is... and while DTFs are for everyone, if you can click with one, you can bet your paycheck you will have a NICE horse!! |
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Location: Southern Alabama | scwebster - 2016-12-28 12:15 PM cecollins0811 - 2016-03-21 4:41 PM christylynn89 - 2016-03-21 3:23 PM For cow/reiners... I disliked working with Gallo Del Cielo "Rooster" bred horses when I worked at a reining training facility. They were dumb and extremely stubborn and untrustworthy and lazy. Seriously had the worst work ethic, tried anything to get out of doing their jobs. Plus they had the ugliest heads and conformation. Smart Spooks were another that I was not a fan of. They were very lazy and had quite a poor work ethic and stubborn attitude. Doc O Lena's and Smart Little Lenas, Freckles Playboy's and Topsail Whiz's are very athletic catty and smart horses but they have to have a job to do or they get bored. I love my Appendix Doc Quixote/ Peponita mare. Super athletic and has a huge heart and great work ethic. Wimpy Little Steps were my one of my favorites to work with because they have a great mind and attitude-very humble. They make a great cross on a super hot mare. Dun Gotta Gun horses are gorgeous and fun to ride but everyone I have seen has had very pencil thin bones tiny tiny hooves and a club foot. I agree with everyone on the Impressive bred mares. The one I use to have was crazy and very unpredictable. She would be standing quietly at the trailer and then 3 seconds later be pulling back for no reason. I didn't have any issues with her bucking but she was lazy! You literally had to ask for every little step and she was too lazy to buck! She was extremely easy to break though. Right now I'm currently loving my Bulldashus (Bully Bullion X Dash Ta Fame ) X Texas High Dasher Cross filly and my Fire On Bug gelding. Both have great attitudes, love to be worked and are very talented I also heard that "Roosters" were a hit or miss type. My hubby had a filly by him and she was super quick and light on her feet when she was young but right before he was able to break her she died from a disease.
My grulla roan mare is a GD of Roobie's Rooster. She is super atheletic... but, she is sensitive. Nice conformation, big build. But, other than what I have seen here... I know nothing about horses be bred this way. |
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| I have stuck to the older stock cow lines for the most part, always got along with them better. Recently fell in love with old cow bred mare x Streakin Six stud. Fearless is all I could say about this horse. Nothing bothers him, BUT you cannot pick a fight with him. He has certainly taught me that some days when we butt heads I just have to walk away. Drop dead gorgeous, but a bit heavier in the shoulders than what I'm used to. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | teamthompson - 2016-03-11 8:18 PM
I have a 4yo mare, Playgun bred on top and Doc O Lena/Two Eyed Jack on the bottom, she is a "cold backed" little thing...
I have been told its the Playgun and Two Eyed Jack
She likes to talk back alot too (i.e. Tail swishing, ****y attitude) when asked to do stuff, she is on lazy side....
I've had many two eyed jacks that were cold backed! |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | KRJ1791 - 2016-03-16 4:16 AM
Packin Sixes- I have only had experience with mares of this line and they are smart, and gritty. A little I'm going to do it my way in the attitude department.
I' Really like to hear more on the Game Patriot, Tres Seis, A Streak of Fling, Judge Cash, Zevi, On the Money Red
I had a Packin sixes granddaughter who was super super gritty but very slow to learn and slow on her feet/super lazy. Very push style, had to really teach her to run, she was closely line bred though. |
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Streakin Six, Moon Lark, Dash for Cash, or Sir Alibi? |
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Location: Northwest | BigMomma - 2016-12-28 8:00 PM
Any thoughts on...
Streakin Six, Moon Lark, Dash for Cash, or Sir Alibi?
I had a grandson of Streakin Six that I sold earlier this year at the ripe age of 21 :) He was the most consistent horse ever. Never once hit a barrel on him. Definitely a free runner. He had kind of a unique turning style. No quirks and very sound. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | In MY experience:
I had two mares that were Real Easy Jet, driftwood, and docs hickory that were super athletic and quick footed but both liked to buck like crazy! They were 1/2 sisters, both were midgets too 14.2-14.3 but could fly. Didn't get along with them.
My TEJs I loved, but they were cold backed and a little hot. For some reason we got along though. A gelding I owned for 8 years was a rugged lark/and two eyed jack cross he was sooooo smart, almost to smart for his own good.
Had a dash for cash crossed with native dancer/little dick priest/rocket wrangler the most laid back gelding I've ever had but once he figured out he could run he's turned into a freight train in the pen! Not a whole lot of turn.
Another easy jet/easily smashed gelding was amazing, he was small only 14.2 but had a promising 1/2D career ahead of him but he coliced young and passed :(
Streakin sizes/Packin sixes seemed a little late to bloom and lazy but had the run and grit.
Hollywood dunit horse to slow for barrels, never had the drive. But did have a mare crossed with some run that was a free runner.
Nicest horse I ever got to run was an Eddie Stinson mare that I couldn't afford for myself but was able to jockey in a few futuries...I call her the one that got away, she was crossed with OTMR.
Had a Boon bred mare crossed with two eyed redbuck that can turn out from under you, super super smart and quiet disposition, really had to teach to run but is making a heck of a barrel horse now.
I've had two with Top Moon that were paints that I loved everything about. Both crossed with a lot of cow.
My next project is my docs prescription/peptoboonsmal gelding, I can't wait to see what's in store for us this year!!!!
Edited by RnRJack 2016-12-28 11:03 PM
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Location: Northwest | lsmith - 2016-03-24 7:35 PM
What about Biankus and Lucky Blanton? Kinda random but I'm curious
I've only been around Captain Biankus bred horses since he stood in my home town. They are amazing athletes. Very well built. Some have hilarious/goofy personalities but I've found they are all pretty easy to get along with. |
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Location: North of where I want to be | RnRJack when you decide you need to kick the docs prescription/peptoboonsmal gelding to the curb let me know! |
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| iloveequine40 - 2016-12-28 5:48 AM
mbcruel21 - 2016-03-16 7:42 AM
These threads always amuse me. I run a mare that is DFc/Beduino on top and Two Eyed Jack/Skipper W on the bottom. She did buck when she was a 2 and 3 yr old but once she matured she was fine. I think a lot of time, time plays a bigger factor than anything, people quit one before they invest the time in the them to get something accomplished.
Racebred horses in a lot of cases are the same way, they are wired a little tighter and need the TIME invested in them. I am currently seasoning a filly that was in race training as a 2 and 3 yr old, they never really got anything done with her because she was just another colt in the barn to them and it was slap a exercise rider on her, hot walker, stall...rinse wash repeat. She got sent home and turned out for 6 months and then I started her. She spent 90 days pasture riding and getting broke, lots of time invested by someone who is a great hand. She is the type that when something scares her she is going somewhere else. I spent most all of last year sitting in a warm up pen with team ropers being team ropers and her trying to come out of her skin. TIME. She was patterened slow and everything was done easy and correct. She is very talented and honestly the sweetest kindest horse we own but it took us putting the time into her, she grew up and matured and let her do it on her schedule. I feel like a lot of time breeding gets blamed for people wanting to rush training and maturity, honestly a lot of time its nots the breeding its the training. Some bloodlines are more user friendly without a doubt.
We own a Mr Jess Perry son, who is easy going, takes everything in stride and so far all of his babies have been the same way. They are born wanting to please. My FIL owns a Corona Cartel son and his babies are ones that need the time invested in them, when people put the time in them they work.
Thank you!!! I get so tired of trying to explain this to people who stereotype racehorses as "crazy"
Exactly! Those hotter race bred types aren't the typical Cookie Cutter horse. You have to know how to work with them, not against them. Unfortunately too many trainers only want the easy Cookie Cutter type horses so they end up blowing the hotter ones up, send them down the road and then people start complaining about how they had such-n-such bloodline that was an idiot so they will never have it again. It's very sad how disposable we've allowed good horses to become because people are too blind when it comes to the human element that are responsible for shaping the horse. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | KRJ1791 - 2016-12-29 6:07 AM
RnRJack when you decide you need to kick the docs prescription/peptoboonsmal gelding to the curb let me know!
Haha I wil let you know, I've ridden him and loved him, I'm picking him up Monday so will keep you updated!!!  |
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Location: North of where I want to be | I'd love to see pics! Good luck! |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | KRJ1791 - 2016-12-29 7:34 AM
I'd love to see pics! Good luck!
Here's when I tried him out, when I get him next week I will take more
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Location: North of where I want to be | LOVE a BAY!! |
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Location: NE Texas | teamthompson - 2016-03-15 7:44 PM
What about the running horses???
Panther Mountain?
Storm Cat?
Holy Bart?
Howling Corona?
Rare Cigar?
Paddys Irish Whiskey???
Kool Quick Kid??
These are fun to read! With everything, take it with a grain of salt though.
I can only speak to my mares personality; her Grand-sire is Storm Cat.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/silver+blush2
Extremely smart and willing to please with a soft eye.
Show her something once or twice and she thinks she knows it (to the point that it's not good b/c she doesn't do it exactly the way you showed her so takes some patience).
She is very touchy/sensitive - can't pick at her or get upset - she will come unwound trying to figure out what you want her to do. Will only tolerate a soft brush for grooming or she will wiggle around until it drives you nuts. Hates spray bottles.
Snorty to the most random things (like a shadow but not flapping plastic bags or bridges), but is fine once she gets a chance to smell it.
Awesome trail riding horse - fast/smooth walk and seems to have endless energy.
Free runner - no spurs needed - just point go. Could be the track training, but once she opens up turning isn't on her mind ---- we are working on that!
One day will cross her with a cowbred QH --- can't wait! |
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