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Location: Florida | streakysox - 2016-10-18 1:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work.
Actually the charter school movement is much more responsible for segregating our schools and it is a right wing, money grabbing scheme. Charter schools may be required to take any student, but if your kid is not up to their standards they will find a way to kick them out. Low performing, handicapped, emotionally scarred, all the "undesirables" are expelled from many charter schools. I am not saying all, there are some who work very hard to help underpriviliged students. But, the majority exist to make money and don't want to waste resources on anything but the best students. Parents love them because they don't have to trouble-makers. But the result is segregration. | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Vickie - 2016-10-18 2:30 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 1:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Actually the charter school movement is much more responsible for segregating our schools and it is a right wing, money grabbing scheme. Charter schools may be required to take any student, but if your kid is not up to their standards they will find a way to kick them out. Low performing, handicapped, emotionally scarred, all the "undesirables" are expelled from many charter schools. I am not saying all, there are some who work very hard to help underpriviliged students. But, the majority exist to make money and don't want to waste resources on anything but the best students. Parents love them because they don't have to trouble-makers. But the result is segregration.
I'm sure you would much rather have standards dumbed down so that everyone could succeed instead of allowing the truly gifted ones to excell.
Very liberal of you.
The very notion that everyone in this world is entitled to anything other than an oportunity fly's in the face of why this country is.
That's not an attack on you personally, so don't start digging up left slanted research to show how segragation is the devil.
It's simply an indictment of your ideology.
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| streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM
I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work.
Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Bullsh, if any thing is crystal clear from the last 30 years of Federal meddling in public schools is that you can not spend your way to successful students.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
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| 1DSoon - 2016-10-18 1:49 PM SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
The Dept of Ed is a FAILURE
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| 1DSoon - 2016-10-18 1:49 PM
SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
The Dept of Ed is a FAILURE
It's is very difficult on families that live in poverty so yes, I agree that broken homes are an issue for the poor. But you know what helps people out of Poverty? A good education and good paying jobs.
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| SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:04 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-18 1:49 PM SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
The Dept of Ed is a FAILURE It's is very difficult on families that live in poverty so yes, I agree that broken homes are an issue for the poor. But you know what helps people out of Poverty? A good education and good paying jobs.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | TXBO - 2016-10-18 3:16 PM SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:04 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-18 1:49 PM SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
The Dept of Ed is a FAILURE It's is very difficult on families that live in poverty so yes, I agree that broken homes are an issue for the poor. But you know what helps people out of Poverty? A good education and good paying jobs.
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Location: OH | BOOM---there ya have it. Trump just announced his 5 point plan for cleaning up the government at a rally in Colorado. One of them is TERM LIMITS for Congress, another one was a five year ban on a person leaving office becoming a lobbyist. | |
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| I taught in a Charter School. They get their funding like other public schools or at least in Texas, as they are a separate school district, each having their own superintendent and school. We got the kids that had been kicked out of the high school for discipline problems. Why is saying that neighborhood schools are low performing or that democrat have the blacks where they want them is racist? I teach in a high school that is equally divided Hispanic, Black, and white. My black teacher friends feel the same way that I do about the black kids having to attend low performing schools when most of them attended schools that were completely integrated. I think the point I was making was that the democrats have set them back to a place before they were integrated. This is fact not opinion. All schools in Texas are rated according to test scores, attendance, graduation rate and several other factors. My job is to get the graduation percentage up. I don't care if they kid is green, if they get in my room they work and they understand that. If the breakdown of the family and apathy are the ruination of education then all schools are doomed. I have many girls who are single parents, they they are happy that our school district who is has a program where they can finish. If I have a student who in not working, a quick call to a parent usually gets them in gear. So there went the apathy theory. I do think that today's education is failing some students because we are to make brain surgeons out of everyone. I will say this, our new superintendent is trying to incorporate some vocational classes for kids in the early grad program. At least they can take something that interests them they will be better prepared to support themselves.
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| 1DSoon - 2016-10-18 2:57 PM TXBO - 2016-10-18 3:16 PM SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:04 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-18 1:49 PM SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
The Dept of Ed is a FAILURE It's is very difficult on families that live in poverty so yes, I agree that broken homes are an issue for the poor. But you know what helps people out of Poverty? A good education and good paying jobs.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-10-18 1:49 PM
SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
The Dept of Ed is a FAILURE
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| SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:04 PM
1DSoon - 2016-10-18 1:49 PM
SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
The Dept of Ed is a FAILURE
It's is very difficult on families that live in poverty so yes, I agree that broken homes are an issue for the poor. But you know what helps people out of Poverty? A good education and good paying jobs.
That is true, but the child and his parents must value education, discipline, and hard work. If they don't all is lost. You can't make people learn if they don't want to make the effort. That was my mom's experience teaching in an almost 100% Hispanic school. The town of 12,000 is 95% Mexican-American with some blacks and even fewer whites mixed in. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | No, I'm not at all optimistic about the future of this country. What we are seeing was foretold 200 years ago. The only way a politician can get elected is to promise cradle-to-grave freebies off the back of an endangered subclass of Americans.....people who work hard, take risks, and succeed. The only way a politician can get RE-elected is to build on the promises of more freebies.....free healthcare, free food, free money, free education. We were told this would lead to the collapse of this "great experiment".
Flawed though he may be, I find it amazing that it took a non-politician like Trump to come in like a wrecking ball and shine the light of truth on things that we have been programmed to ignore. He has repeatedly made seemingly outrageous remarks on a variety of topics, and people quickly realized he was right, more often than not.
He's been declaring the system is rigged and people initially thought that was just sour grapes. Now we are just beginning to see hard core proof of a corrupt, rigged system, top to bottom. | |
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| Vickie - 2016-10-18 1:30 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 1:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Actually the charter school movement is much more responsible for segregating our schools and it is a right wing, money grabbing scheme. Charter schools may be required to take any student, but if your kid is not up to their standards they will find a way to kick them out. Low performing, handicapped, emotionally scarred, all the "undesirables" are expelled from many charter schools. I am not saying all, there are some who work very hard to help underpriviliged students. But, the majority exist to make money and don't want to waste resources on anything but the best students. Parents love them because they don't have to trouble-makers. But the result is segregration.
Spoken like a true blue union member, " a right wing money grabbing scheme". Anything that takes money from the unions has to be bad, the same unions who put the needs of children secondary to the teachers. | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | CrossDRanch - 2016-10-16 2:49 PM
You guys comparing the D system to liberal hands outs are confused. That is like saying there should be no little league, youth league, HS ball, rec. leagues, etc.....everyone should just play in the MLB. A better comparison would be that I sign up to race, but I do not pay an entry fee. Heck, I don't even run a horse, but I expect a payout for sitting in the stands eating nachos and popcorn (which I put on your bill, BTW).
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Location: High heels in the air... | Blanket statements... people are on welfare currently not because they want to be. The values of our society has declined since the MTV years. Shut off the cable, kick the useless sex tape celebrities out of the country, dump the electronics..bet everyone knows Kim Kardashian but can't name one congressman...your kid has an I phone but can't do his homework without google...we are poorly educated as a country when compared with the rest of the world. Most youth lack the discipline and the patience to reach beyond their means. Inner city youth have Even less opportunity due to demographics and preconceived notions handed down by a parent, teacher, someone, anyone. Its the ME society. We are a helpless, helpful country...our government is set up for failure so they can sit back and run business as usual while we lemmings blame everyone but ourselves for personal failure...
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:04 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-18 1:49 PM SloRide - 2016-10-18 2:39 PM streakysox - 2016-10-18 12:19 PM I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. Wow. Let's just ignore the racism in your post for a moment. A major reason why many black schools do not perform well is because they get the shaft on funding. Not because they are populated with mostly black children. Now one could argue that they get unfairly funded because they are predominantly black school in poor neighborhoods, but then we would need to address the issue of institutionalized racism and I doubt you think institutionalized racism is a real thing. Those blacks are probably just really really lazy.
Inner city schools and school childeren fail because of two things, the break down of the nuclear family and apathy.
That's it.. Some of the best and brightest minds in this countries history have come from schools that did not spend a lot of money on anything except learning.
The Dept of Ed is a FAILURE It's is very difficult on families that live in poverty so yes, I agree that broken homes are an issue for the poor. But you know what helps people out of Poverty? A good education and good paying jobs.
Many of the inner city kids don't want an education or a real job. They want to be like their brothers and sisters. Be in a gang, sell dope and be cool. It is what it is. I don't think chaining a kid to his desk will work real well. The answer for libs is to throw money at it instead of fixing the problem. Chicago is a great example of this. | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | CowboyUp!!! - 2016-10-18 7:02 PM Blanket statements... people are on welfare currently not because they want to be. The values of our society has declined since the MTV years. Shut off the cable, kick the useless sex tape celebrities out of the country, dump the electronics..bet everyone knows Kim Kardashian but can't name one congressman...your kid has an I phone but can't do his homework without google...we are poorly educated as a country when compared with the rest of the world. Most youth lack the discipline and the patience to reach beyond their means. Inner city youth have Even less opportunity due to demographics and preconceived notions handed down by a parent, teacher, someone, anyone. Its the ME society. We are a helpless, helpful country...our government is set up for failure so they can sit back and run business as usual while we lemmings blame everyone but ourselves for personal failure...
almost all of that is spot on. Except for the part about wanting to be on the programs.
Yes they want to be.
But you want to know how to fix all of these problems? Stop feeding them, stop sheltering them, stop medicating them.
Hunger is inspirational. I know, i've been hungry. I"ve been the kid at school that had a measly little sack lunch because that's all we could afford. I've been the kid that had one pair of jeans and 3 shirts to make it thru a week of school.
You know what I did? I decided that **** was for the birds and I worked harder than everyone else and made something of myself so that me and my kids didn't live the life that I lived.
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