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      Location: Southern Alabama | RnRJack - 2017-02-08 8:05 AM There's always two sides to the story, that's why we shouldn't be so quick to judge. Obviously she did the right thing by selling the horse because her husband had cancer and they were in over their head probably with medical bills etc. I think she put the horses best interests first by selling her so she could get the attention she needed and she's clearly setemential to her and her son. Maybe if the new owner understood those circumstances she could at least share with the OP that the mare is okay and being well take care of and that if they sell she would like her back. Unfortunately the "first buy back clause" never works, even with written contracts, unless you're willing to take that person to court which will cost more money and there's no guarantee You'll get the horse back, once you sell a horse they're gone and it's out of your hands. All you can do is pray and hope that the horse is being well taken care of and move on. If it's meant to be it's meant to me!
Thank you. I did the best I could by the mare, in the situation I was in. Did I want to sell her? Absolutely not. I cried for weeks and weeks and weeks over her. It devastated me. Even now, with all of this going on, trying to find her... it makes me sick. I should have never sold her. And, you are right... once I handed that mare over, anything and everything that happens to her, is out of my control. As much as that breaks my heart, it's the truth. | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-04 9:59 AM Yep, which is odd. Because when I bought the mare, I received a bill of sale, signed transfer sheet and her AQHA papers. I sent in the papers and transfer sheet to AQHA and had them put in my name. When I sold her, I gave signed AQHA transfer sheet and current papers with my name on them.
So you are saying the mare is in your name, when did you send in these papers to be transfer into your name, was it as soon as you bought her? | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-09 1:59 PM I did. I spoke to a gentleman with the first name of Mike... if I can remember right. He said the system had not updated or something, but, it did not matter because they had record of it, along with me having record of it... I mean, I had her papers with my name on them.
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      Location: Southern Alabama | Made the call soon after I made this post.... maybe like, two days after. Yes, the mare was in my name. I sent her papers in shortly after I bought her. I actually sent in papers on 5 different horses. | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-08 3:11 PM
Made the call soon after I made this post.... maybe like, two days after. Yes, the mare was in my name. I sent her papers in shortly after I bought her. I actually sent in papers on 5 different horses.
OK,, hummm that is just so strange for AQHA to not have something like Reg. papers not updated in their system , I need some paper work sent to me from AQHA and I will asked them for you and see why the reg. is not undated on their web site for you. | |
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      Location: Southern Alabama | Southtxponygirl - 2017-02-08 3:22 PM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-08 3:11 PM
Made the call soon after I made this post.... maybe like, two days after. Yes, the mare was in my name. I sent her papers in shortly after I bought her. I actually sent in papers on 5 different horses.
OK,, hummm that is just so strange for AQHA to not have something like Reg. papers not updated in their system , I need some paper work sent to me from AQHA and I will asked them for you and see why the reg. is not undated on their web site for you.
You are wonderful :)
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      Location: Southern Alabama | Runninbay - 2017-01-30 4:23 PM
So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly?
Seems to me.... you were not very true to your word, from this post... to what you said to me in a PM... now, were you? Seems also, as some people who know nothing about me are saying things about me that are completely and totally, untrue. I don't know how many times I need to say that.... I don't necessarily want to buy her back. I want to see how she is doing. I want to talk to her owners. I want to know that the last purchase my son's father ever made is doing good. Sitting here, writing this right this very second when I should be at work...I cannot stop myself from crying. The frustration and the guilt I feel. Yes, I know she was thin. I did everything in my power to help her. Was she not handled much? Yes, she wasn't. I hadn't had her long... less than a year, at most. It is incredibly frustrating and heart wrenching. I hope you never have to feel this. | |
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      Location: Arkansas | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-08 4:16 PM
Runninbay - 2017-01-30 4:23 PM
So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly?Β
Seems to me.... you were not very true to your word, from this post... to what you said to me in a PM... now, were you? Seems also, as someΒ people who know nothing about me are saying things about me that are completely and totally, untrue. I don't know howΒ many times I need to say that.... I don't necessarily want to buy her back. I want to see how she is doing. I want to talk to her owners. I want to know that the lastΒ purchase my son's father ever made is doing good. Sitting here, writing this right this very second when I should be at work...I cannot stop myself from crying. The frustration and the guilt I feel. Yes, I know she was thin. I did everything in my power to help her. Was she not handled much?Β Yes, she wasn't.Β I hadn't hadΒ her long... less than a year, at most. It is incredibly frustrating and heart wrenching. I hope you never have to feel this.Β
I am so sorry you're going thru this. I cannot imagine how upset I would be if this happened to me. I hope that Lexi's current owner finds out you would just like to know how she is and that they will contact you. If someone could at least acknowledge they would do that, maybe that would help the situation. . . . | |
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       Location: Georgia | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-08 5:16 PM Runninbay - 2017-01-30 4:23 PM So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly? Seems to me.... you were not very true to your word, from this post... to what you said to me in a PM... now, were you? Seems also, as some people who know nothing about me are saying things about me that are completely and totally, untrue. I don't know how many times I need to say that.... I don't necessarily want to buy her back. I want to see how she is doing. I want to talk to her owners. I want to know that the last purchase my son's father ever made is doing good. Sitting here, writing this right this very second when I should be at work...I cannot stop myself from crying. The frustration and the guilt I feel. Yes, I know she was thin. I did everything in my power to help her. Was she not handled much? Yes, she wasn't. I hadn't had her long... less than a year, at most. It is incredibly frustrating and heart wrenching. I hope you never have to feel this. I wasn't true to my word? And what "word" was that? That I was going to tell you who has the mare? I dont feel comfortable doing that if your going to hound her new owners about selling this horse back to you. Pretty sure that was implied. I'm sorry you are feeling the way you are but you should have started this thread with the whole truth...and maybe this thread would have gone in a different direction. TRUTH: You sold an underweight, half wild mare to a woman in FL saying you would like first buy back option. All you said in this whole thread was that the mare had ulcers. You never once stated that she was thin. I am not trying to be insensitive or rude. I'm not that kind of person. I have never once said you didn't feed the mare properly or that you don't take care of your horses did I? All I stated (with proof) was that the mare appeared to be underweight when Candice bought her. That woman put her TIME, MONEY, and EFFORT into building that mare back up. As I said in the PM I sent to you yesterday, I understand things in happen in life and we are forced to make hard decisions. I understand people go through hard times. I appreciate the fact that you sold this mare instead of letting her waste away in your pasture like some others would have done. I am truly sorry your son's father has passed away. That's awful. From what it sounds like, you investested your time and money into this mare also. Sorry it didnt work out the way you envisioned it would.
I'm going to do you a solid and give your name to her new owner. I will explain the situation and if they want to contact you, then they will. Whatever happens, happens. I will pray for you that everything works out in your favor.
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      Location: Southern Alabama | Runninbay - 2017-02-09 6:56 AM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-08 5:16 PM Runninbay - 2017-01-30 4:23 PM
So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly? Seems to me.... you were not very true to your word, from this post... to what you said to me in a PM... now, were you? Seems also, as some people who know nothing about me are saying things about me that are completely and totally, untrue. I don't know how many times I need to say that.... I don't necessarily want to buy her back. I want to see how she is doing. I want to talk to her owners. I want to know that the last purchase my son's father ever made is doing good. Sitting here, writing this right this very second when I should be at work...I cannot stop myself from crying. The frustration and the guilt I feel. Yes, I know she was thin. I did everything in my power to help her. Was she not handled much? Yes, she wasn't. I hadn't had her long... less than a year, at most. It is incredibly frustrating and heart wrenching. I hope you never have to feel this.
I wasn't true to my word? And what "word" was that? That I was going to tell you who has the mare? I dont feel comfortable doing that if your going to hound her new owners about selling this horse back to you. Pretty sure that was implied. I'm sorry you are feeling the way you are but you should have started this thread with the whole truth...and maybe this thread would have gone in a different direction. TRUTH: You sold an underweight, half wild mare to a woman in FL saying you would like first buy back option. All you said in this whole thread was that the mare had ulcers. You never once stated that she was thin. I am not trying to be insensitive or rude. I'm not that kind of person. I have never once said you didn't feed the mare properly or that you don't take care of your horses did I? All I stated (with proof) was that the mare appeared to be underweight when Candice bought her. That woman put her TIME, MONEY, and EFFORT into building that mare back up. As I said in the PM I sent to you yesterday, I understand things in happen in life and we are forced to make hard decisions. I understand people go through hard times. I appreciate the fact that you sold this mare instead of letting her waste away in your pasture like some others would have done. I am truly sorry your son's father has passed away. That's awful. From what it sounds like, you investested your time and money into this mare also. Sorry it didnt work out the way you envisioned it would.
I'm going to do you a solid and give your name to her new owner. I will explain the situation and if they want to contact you, then they will. Whatever happens, happens. I will pray for you that everything works out in your favor.
In all honesty, I do not want to get in some ****ing match. Yes, I believe in the beginning of this thread, I stated.... she was thin. If I did not, I am sorry. I did not know when I posted this, that I needed to go into every single nitty gritty detail. I was asking if someone knew the mare and knew who owned her. As I have stated numerous and numerous times on this thread and even told you in the message - I do not necessarily want to buy her back. Would I like to own her again? ABSOLUTELY. But, if she is in a good home and being well taken care of and the owners do not want to sell her, that is fine. I would like to give them the option to that if they ever want too, I'll buy her. If not, oh well. I'd like to watch her progress, honestly. I am not going to hound anyone. And quite honestly, I don't like that use of verbage there. Through this whole thread, I have never said that all I care about is getting her back. And.... before you go jumping on Candice's side.... why don't you listen to both sides of the story? Because seems to me, the only person you are siding with... is her? That isn't right. I stated the mare had shipping fever, had ulcers, had an abscess in her face... even told everyone that she should have a lump in the bottom of her jaw that the vet said was a calcium deposit from the abscessed tooth. Soooo.... I used that as an identifying marker, on the mare. You stated in a previous post on this very thread that if I cleared the air, you would have no problem giving me the name and number or whatever of the people who own her. Yes, I understand. Candice put a lot of time, money, sweat, blood, tears, everything into this mare. Especially since the mare broke her arm or her leg... I can't remember which. I fully explained everything about the horse WEEKS before Candice drove to my house from South Florida to purchase her. I explained she hadn't been messed with much. I told her about the ulcers, the shipping fever, the abscess. I explained she was thin after coming off her feed. I mean.... goodness gracious. The mare came from two different climates, IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER.... I would half ass expect her to come off of her feed.
?I'm sure, if you were in my shoes.... you would not like to be done the way that you are doing me, now would you? If I knew where a horse was that you sold, under the conditions that I sold this mare in...would I tell YOU? Absolutely. But, would I explain that the people may not want to sell her, etc, etc, etc. Of course. There should be no reason, in my mind, that her whereabouts should be hidden. This is very odd, in my mind. As I have said probably 60 times now... I do not necessarily want to buy her back. I would love to just be able to follow her progress, even if I never speak to the owners. That is fine by me. | |
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      Location: Southern Alabama | This was the word that I was speaking of, right here - So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly?
I hesitate to speak for the OP....but I think that, at this point from what she has written, she just wants to know that the mare has a "good" home? Additionally, I remember through her BHW threads at that time (when she was selling) she was going through some bad times...... And I completely understand that. If that's the case I have no problem giving her name out :)
?This was what you said, on two different posts. I have clarified and stated and whatever else you want to word that. I do not necessarily want to buy her back. Would I offer the new owner's the chance to sell her? ABSOLUTELY. I'd pay a pretty penny for the mare now, simply because of the sentimental reasons. Even if she was dead lame. Now, if they say no, they don't wanna sell. Fine... My offer is on the table. I'd like to just follow her progress and such. Am I fully capable of taking care of her? More than capable. However, I won't get into my financial situation right now... but, just say, I am not struggling in the least.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I talked to AQHA yesterday about the papers on this mare, she is a 09 but was reg. in 2011 and she is still in the name of the breeder, she has never been transfered under anybody eles name, I talked to two different ladies and they both tolded me the same thing, if she had been transfer they would have records of the sign transfer report.. | |
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      Location: Southern Alabama | Southtxponygirl - 2017-02-09 9:02 AM I talked to AQHA yesterday about the papers on this mare, she is a 09 but was reg. in 2011 and she is still in the name of the breeder, she has never been transfered under anybody eles name, I talked to two different ladies and they both tolded me the same thing, if she had been transfer they would have records of the sign transfer report..
I bought the mare in 2013, I believe. I sent in her papers about 3 months after I bought her, with signed transfer sheet. I had a few others I sent in, with hers. Papers came back in my name. Not sure why they do not have record of it. Obviously, if I still owned the mare... I could take pictures of her papers to show, I did indeed, send them in. | |
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       Location: Georgia | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-09 9:44 AM This was the word that I was speaking of, right here -
So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly?
I hesitate to speak for the OP....but I think that, at this point from what she has written, she just wants to know that the mare has a "good" home? Additionally, I remember through her BHW threads at that time (when she was selling) she was going through some bad times......
And I completely understand that. If that's the case I have no problem giving her name out :)
?This was what you said, on two different posts. I have clarified and stated and whatever else you want to word that. I do not necessarily want to buy her back. Would I offer the new owner's the chance to sell her? ABSOLUTELY. I'd pay a pretty penny for the mare now, simply because of the sentimental reasons. Even if she was dead lame. Now, if they say no, they don't wanna sell. Fine... My offer is on the table. I'd like to just follow her progress and such. Am I fully capable of taking care of her? More than capable. However, I won't get into my financial situation right now... but, just say, I am not struggling in the least.
As I said in my previous post, I pray that everything works out in your favor. Best of luck. I've done my part. | |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Runninbay - 2017-02-09 9:48 AM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-09 9:44 AM This was the word that I was speaking of, right here -
So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly?
I hesitate to speak for the OP....but I think that, at this point from what she has written, she just wants to know that the mare has a "good" home? Additionally, I remember through her BHW threads at that time (when she was selling) she was going through some bad times......
And I completely understand that. If that's the case I have no problem giving her name out :)
?This was what you said, on two different posts. I have clarified and stated and whatever else you want to word that. I do not necessarily want to buy her back. Would I offer the new owner's the chance to sell her? ABSOLUTELY. I'd pay a pretty penny for the mare now, simply because of the sentimental reasons. Even if she was dead lame. Now, if they say no, they don't wanna sell. Fine... My offer is on the table. I'd like to just follow her progress and such. Am I fully capable of taking care of her? More than capable. However, I won't get into my financial situation right now... but, just say, I am not struggling in the least.
As I said in my previous post, I pray that everything works out in your favor.
Best of luck. I've done my part.
I don't know how many times, she has to say that she would just like to know how the horse is doing, etc....personally, I think that you had NO intention of EVER giving out the name and your intention was just to run Victoria through the mud..... | |
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       Location: Georgia | NJJ - 2017-02-09 11:59 AM Runninbay - 2017-02-09 9:48 AM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-09 9:44 AM This was the word that I was speaking of, right here -
So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly?
I hesitate to speak for the OP....but I think that, at this point from what she has written, she just wants to know that the mare has a "good" home? Additionally, I remember through her BHW threads at that time (when she was selling) she was going through some bad times......
And I completely understand that. If that's the case I have no problem giving her name out :)
?This was what you said, on two different posts. I have clarified and stated and whatever else you want to word that. I do not necessarily want to buy her back. Would I offer the new owner's the chance to sell her? ABSOLUTELY. I'd pay a pretty penny for the mare now, simply because of the sentimental reasons. Even if she was dead lame. Now, if they say no, they don't wanna sell. Fine... My offer is on the table. I'd like to just follow her progress and such. Am I fully capable of taking care of her? More than capable. However, I won't get into my financial situation right now... but, just say, I am not struggling in the least.
As I said in my previous post, I pray that everything works out in your favor.
Best of luck. I've done my part.
I don't know how many times, she has to say that she would just like to know how the horse is doing, etc....personally, I think that you had NO intention of EVER giving out the name and your intention was just to run Victoria through the mud.....
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-07 8:07 AM cheeka77 - 2017-01-06 11:40 PM Dang ok! Have you been in contact with Candice? I just creeped on her FB and she wrote a goodbye post on there and said she sold her but maybe you've already seen that? I have messaged her numerous times... she won't tell me anything. A few people have also messaged her, she won't tell them anything, either. All she has said is the mare is still in Florida. Near Ocala, Lake City, is what I am guessing. I did see the post. I just want my horse back!
I was under the impression that Victoria wanted to buy this horse back, these been a few statements made that she wanted the horse back that she would spend all the money in the world to get her back.. | |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Runninbay - 2017-02-09 11:19 AM NJJ - 2017-02-09 11:59 AM Runninbay - 2017-02-09 9:48 AM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-02-09 9:44 AM This was the word that I was speaking of, right here -
So I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. I know who owns this mare. But I would first like the know what the OP's intentions are before I release this persons name. Are you going to try to buy this mare? And if so, are you capable of taking care of her properly?
I hesitate to speak for the OP....but I think that, at this point from what she has written, she just wants to know that the mare has a "good" home? Additionally, I remember through her BHW threads at that time (when she was selling) she was going through some bad times......
And I completely understand that. If that's the case I have no problem giving her name out :)
?This was what you said, on two different posts. I have clarified and stated and whatever else you want to word that. I do not necessarily want to buy her back. Would I offer the new owner's the chance to sell her? ABSOLUTELY. I'd pay a pretty penny for the mare now, simply because of the sentimental reasons. Even if she was dead lame. Now, if they say no, they don't wanna sell. Fine... My offer is on the table. I'd like to just follow her progress and such. Am I fully capable of taking care of her? More than capable. However, I won't get into my financial situation right now... but, just say, I am not struggling in the least.
As I said in my previous post, I pray that everything works out in your favor.
Best of luck. I've done my part.
I don't know how many times, she has to say that she would just like to know how the horse is doing, etc....personally, I think that you had NO intention of EVER giving out the name and your intention was just to run Victoria through the mud..... Well we all know your opinion matters most NJJ.
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       Location: Georgia | Southtxponygirl - 2017-02-09 12:25 PM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-07 8:07 AM cheeka77 - 2017-01-06 11:40 PM Dang ok! Have you been in contact with Candice? I just creeped on her FB and she wrote a goodbye post on there and said she sold her but maybe you've already seen that? I have messaged her numerous times... she won't tell me anything. A few people have also messaged her, she won't tell them anything, either. All she has said is the mare is still in Florida. Near Ocala, Lake City, is what I am guessing. I did see the post. I just want my horse back! I was under the impression that Victoria wanted to buy this horse back, these been a few statements made that she wanted the horse back that she would spend all the money in the world to get her back..
Thank you Roxie. Victoria, I have given your name to the owners of this horse. If they want to contact you, they will. End of story. | |
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