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Location: Weatherford, TX | You never did actually see/and acknowledge that maybe if Pelosi wasn't 'your cup of tea', that AOC was. Or, you didn't even acknowledge EXACTLY what was 'fake news' that I posted in response earlier. Since you do not really like Pelosi?! Are you really that far left? You do NOT like to engage when confronted. Just do 'semi-political hit jobs' with limited knowledge?!?!?! Really?!?!? Be a good Liberal and be better than that.
Come on... jump in on that New NY Law thread...we miss you. The water is very warm on that thread. Acknowledge your position on that particular thread. You have been a pretty 'absentee very Liberal opinion holder' on THAT thread.
Do not 'taunt'..and just do 'political hit jobs' when you actually think you're winning. Get 'into the weeds' and lets go on the your very Lineral position on the 'New NY Law' that you have been so very silent on.
Let's go.
Do you REALLY want to debate morals?
Come on JD&EZ... or Mecon...for that matter...
I made it very convenient to debate your so very Liberal opinion on THIS thread. Let's go...let's see whatcha got to support this particular very Liberal opinion on killing babies.
Make sure you read ALL the posts, as I was a former 'liberal social issues Republican' and that is way worse than a 'reformed smoker'.
Made it way easy to respond on THIS thread.
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| So are they going to prosecute those mothers who dispose of their babies at birth? What is the difference between that and the new law? |
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Location: Missouri | rodeomom3 - 2019-01-30 7:18 PM
So are they going to prosecute those mothers who dispose of their babies at birth? What is the difference between that and the new law?
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Location: Missouri | Bear - 2019-01-30 7:51 PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/42839/watch-democratic-va-governor-en...
Something at the end of this article really made my hair stand on end:
"Simply put, the American people do not deserve the care of a benevolent God if they embrace such evil."
Some of you may scoff at this, but I truly believe we should be scared for our nation. I truly believe God will only tolerate this for so long.
In the Old Testament, part of the reason God allowed the Israelites to be taken into captivity in Babylonia was bc they'd gotten into infant/child sacrifice....to the Ammonite god Molech.
If we think He doesn't see the nation as a whole bending their knees to the god of "Choice," we are kidding ourselves.
What will happen to US if we don't stand for the unborn? I don't know. I know God is patient and forgiving and benevolent but I also know He reaches a point where enough is enough and I shudder to think what judgement would look like for this. Edited by MOGirl07 2019-01-30 10:01 PM
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Here’s a video where an abortionist is showing the body parts of a 20 week old baby. I wonder if the infanticidal progressives cheer and clap when they see the little feet, hands, head, and eyes:
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Location: Weatherford, TX | MOGirl07 - 2019-01-30 7:24 PM rodeomom3 - 2019-01-30 7:18 PM So are they going to prosecute those mothers who dispose of their babies at birth? What is the difference between that and the new law? You know that's the next thing they will get lax on.
They already prosecute on a murder of a pregnant woman for two murders?!?!?! Why would they actually prosecute a mother for disposing of a baby?!?!? But they do. Really? What is the Dif???? It is just NUTS!
I GUESS it is actually a BABY at that point... in THEIR minds.
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Location: Arkansas | MOGirl07 - 2019-01-30 8:15 PM
Bear - 2019-01-30 7:51 PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/42839/watch-democratic-va-governor-en...
Something at the end of this article really made my hair stand on end:
"Simply put, the American people do not deserve the care of a benevolent God if they embrace such evil."
Some of you may scoff at this, but I truly believe we should be scared for our nation. I truly believe God will only tolerate this for so long.
In the New Testament, part of the reason God allowed the Israelites to be taken into captivity in Babylonia was bc they'd gotten into infant/child sacrifice....to the Ammonite god Molech.
If we think He doesn't see the nation as a whole bending their knees to the god of "Choice," we are kidding ourselves.
What will happen to US if we don't stand for the unborn? I don't know. I know God is patient and forgiving and benevolent but I also know He reaches a point where enough is enough and I shudder to think what judgement would look like for this.
Well said, well said!!!!
When Chan told me about this new law (yes, it's sad when my 20 year old son has to keep me in the know with news ), he was indignant, outraged. We discussed how God is looking at us. He's certainly watching, and this He won't forget or look over. Our nation is on a slippery slope, and I believe the downhill slide has picked up speed. . . . God help us. |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | I just got into a BIG/HUGE fight with my 65YO neighbor over this whole topic of this thread. It got so very bad that my husband had to referee. He got out of hand too and had to yell at him. I'll explain.
My neighbor is a very kind woman that sees all the good in people, to a fault. I do not. We can disagree on A LOT with people and what they are from the very beginning of meeting them. However, she claims to be the 'old Democrat' that her parents were.
We got into it tonight talking about this thread and what the new NY Law was. She didn't agree with the NY Law.
BUT... she was INSISTING that Hillary wasn't like that or for that; and Hillary DID NOT believe in that. I told her that Hillary worshipped Margaret Sanger as an idol, and did believe in partial birth abortion and Hillary FULLY believed in women's reproductive rights SOLELY up to birth. I told her that Elizabeth Warren was that way and so was Kamala Harris and every other Dem running for 2020. She said 'no' they were NOT and I lost it! BIG time. I told her to look it up. She said she would and she will not. She does that ALL the time...just convienently forgets and it is never discussed again.
My husband jumped in and tried to say that we were friends and she made a nice dinner tonight. AND, I was out of line yelling. I responded with 'exactly what is your point?' She did not agree with the NY Law BUT still continues to vote Dem or people that believe in this Law. She justified it by saying Trump 'scares' her!!!! I went off again!!!
The long and short of it is that...it has been an absolute TOTAL nightmare tonight with my longtime friend/neighbor AND my husband (that tried to make peace). I am way PO'd with him trying to calm me down. I am like a big ole bull seeing red on this. Absolutely no negotiation whatsoever. I know I am bad. Isn't that the first step in Re-Hab? Admitting you have a problem? LOL
She is a straight Dem across the board, doesn't research...just votes Democrat because that what her parents did and what she does. AND... Trump scares her but CANNOT answer 'why' when I ask her why?!?!?!?
So....that is MY night in a nut shell. It has been a nightmare on so many levels I can't even begin to say ALL of what happened. I am exhausted mentally...physically fine. Uggghhh!!! |
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Location: Arkansas | Gator Bug - 2019-01-30 9:38 PM
I just got into a BIG/HUGE fight with my 65YO neighbor over this whole topic of this thread. It got so very bad that my husband had to referee. He got out of hand too and had to yell at him. I'll explain.
My neighbor is a very kind woman that sees all the good in people, to a fault. I do not. We can disagree on A LOT with people and what they are from the very beginning of meeting them. However, she claims to be the 'old Democrat' that her parents were.
We got into it tonight talking about this thread and what the new NY Law was. She didn't agree with the NY Law.
BUT... she was INSISTING that Hillary wasn't like that or for that; and Hillary DID NOT believe in that. I told her that Hillary worshipped Margaret Sanger as an idol, and did believe in partial birth abortion and Hillary FULLY believed in women's reproductive rights SOLELY up to birth. I told her that Elizabeth Warren was that way and so was Kamala Harris and every other Dem running for 2020. She said 'no' they were NOT and I lost it! BIG time. I told her to look it up. She said she would and she will not. She does that ALL the time...just convienently forgets and it is never discussed again.
My husband jumped in and tried to say that we were friends and she made a nice dinner tonight. AND, I was out of line yelling. I responded with 'exactly what is your point?' She did not agree with the NY Law BUT still continues to vote Dem or people that believe in this Law. She justified it by saying Trump 'scares' her!!!! I went off again!!!
The long and short of it is that...it has been an absolute TOTAL nightmare tonight with my longtime friend/neighbor AND my husband (that tried to make peace). I am way PO'd with him trying to calm me down. I am like a big ole bull seeing red on this. Absolutely no negotiation whatsoever. I know I am bad. Isn't that the first step in Re-Hab? Admitting you have a problem? LOL
She is a straight Dem across the board, doesn't research...just votes Democrat because that what her parents did and what she does. AND... Trump scares her but CANNOT answer 'why' when I ask her why?!?!?!?
So....that is MY night in a nut shell. It has been a nightmare on so many levels I can't even begin to say ALL of what happened. I am exhausted mentally...physically fine. Uggghhh!!!
Ok, deeeeeeep breathes, say "this too shall pass" 5 times. May have to throw a tacky word out a time or two, but you will reach a tolerable state before long. Sometimes goofy just makes you want to scream obscenities, doesn't it????? |
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Location: Missouri | Bear - 2019-01-30 8:16 PM
Here’s a video where an abortionist is showing the body parts of a 20 week old baby. I wonder if the infanticidal progressives cheer and clap when they see the little feet, hands, head, and eyes:
https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/28/warning-graphic-abortionist-hold...
I watched this and about got sick. That sweet, sweet little baby. 
The doctor's commentary is just awful. "We helped this young lady get on with her life....she gets to go to school....without the responsibility of parenting." 
Yeah, okay, don't focus at all on the dead baby parts you are piecing back together, focus on this woman who now gets to go to school without the burden of parenting bc she just let you rip her child out of her womb. Is that what this guy tells himself so he can sleep at night? |
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Location: Missouri | Gator Bug - 2019-01-30 9:38 PM
I just got into a BIG/HUGE fight with my 65YO neighbor over this whole topic of this thread. It got so very bad that my husband had to referee. He got out of hand too and had to yell at him. I'll explain.
My neighbor is a very kind woman that sees all the good in people, to a fault. I do not. We can disagree on A LOT with people and what they are from the very beginning of meeting them. However, she claims to be the 'old Democrat' that her parents were.
We got into it tonight talking about this thread and what the new NY Law was. She didn't agree with the NY Law.
BUT... she was INSISTING that Hillary wasn't like that or for that; and Hillary DID NOT believe in that. I told her that Hillary worshipped Margaret Sanger as an idol, and did believe in partial birth abortion and Hillary FULLY believed in women's reproductive rights SOLELY up to birth. I told her that Elizabeth Warren was that way and so was Kamala Harris and every other Dem running for 2020. She said 'no' they were NOT and I lost it! BIG time. I told her to look it up. She said she would and she will not. She does that ALL the time...just convienently forgets and it is never discussed again.
My husband jumped in and tried to say that we were friends and she made a nice dinner tonight. AND, I was out of line yelling. I responded with 'exactly what is your point?' She did not agree with the NY Law BUT still continues to vote Dem or people that believe in this Law. She justified it by saying Trump 'scares' her!!!! I went off again!!!
The long and short of it is that...it has been an absolute TOTAL nightmare tonight with my longtime friend/neighbor AND my husband (that tried to make peace). I am way PO'd with him trying to calm me down. I am like a big ole bull seeing red on this. Absolutely no negotiation whatsoever. I know I am bad. Isn't that the first step in Re-Hab? Admitting you have a problem? LOL
She is a straight Dem across the board, doesn't research...just votes Democrat because that what her parents did and what she does. AND... Trump scares her but CANNOT answer 'why' when I ask her why?!?!?!?
So....that is MY night in a nut shell. It has been a nightmare on so many levels I can't even begin to say ALL of what happened. I am exhausted mentally...physically fine. Uggghhh!!!
I really really really dislike that.....when someone on either side of the fence votes straight across the flipping board one side without having a CLUE what those candidates actually stand for. Ugh. |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | Chandler's Mom - 2019-01-30 9:48 PM Gator Bug - 2019-01-30 9:38 PM I just got into a BIG/HUGE fight with my 65YO neighbor over this whole topic of this thread. It got so very bad that my husband had to referee. He got out of hand too and had to yell at him. I'll explain.
My neighbor is a very kind woman that sees all the good in people, to a fault. I do not. We can disagree on A LOT with people and what they are from the very beginning of meeting them. However, she claims to be the 'old Democrat' that her parents were.
We got into it tonight talking about this thread and what the new NY Law was. She didn't agree with the NY Law.
BUT... she was INSISTING that Hillary wasn't like that or for that; and Hillary DID NOT believe in that. I told her that Hillary worshipped Margaret Sanger as an idol, and did believe in partial birth abortion and Hillary FULLY believed in women's reproductive rights SOLELY up to birth. I told her that Elizabeth Warren was that way and so was Kamala Harris and every other Dem running for 2020. She said 'no' they were NOT and I lost it! BIG time. I told her to look it up. She said she would and she will not. She does that ALL the time...just convienently forgets and it is never discussed again.
My husband jumped in and tried to say that we were friends and she made a nice dinner tonight. AND, I was out of line yelling. I responded with 'exactly what is your point?' She did not agree with the NY Law BUT still continues to vote Dem or people that believe in this Law. She justified it by saying Trump 'scares' her!!!! I went off again!!!
The long and short of it is that...it has been an absolute TOTAL nightmare tonight with my longtime friend/neighbor AND my husband (that tried to make peace). I am way PO'd with him trying to calm me down. I am like a big ole bull seeing red on this. Absolutely no negotiation whatsoever. I know I am bad. Isn't that the first step in Re-Hab? Admitting you have a problem? LOL
She is a straight Dem across the board, doesn't research...just votes Democrat because that what her parents did and what she does. AND... Trump scares her but CANNOT answer 'why' when I ask her why?!?!?!?
So....that is MY night in a nut shell. It has been a nightmare on so many levels I can't even begin to say ALL of what happened. I am exhausted mentally...physically fine. Uggghhh!!! Ok, deeeeeeep breathes, say "this too shall pass" 5 times. May have to throw a tacky word out a time or two, but you will reach a tolerable state before long. Sometimes goofy just makes you want to scream obscenities, doesn't it?????
I did want to just scream obscenities at both of them. Neither of them agree with this NY Law and they are proposing in VT and VA. However, my neighbor says that but still votes Dem. Why? Cause Trump scares her! Why does he scare her? She doesn't really know, he JUST does! This is the argument I actually had with her. AND then, my husband said that I needed to,play nice and was out of line. I told him that she can't even argue the point in any reference!!! It was a total rumble-tumble with the three of us on topics on actually three different sides. I called my husband a 'wuss' and I did not have to play nice with somebody that doesn't know WTH they are talking about. It was bad...very bad.
And MOGirl07....I hear ya! The people that disagree with this BIG of an issue/values and can continue to vote that way?!?!?! I cannot deal with that... it is a 'no go'. And my husband trying to play the middle? Really? Uh, no. He doesn't agree with it anymore than I do. But, he wants to be 'nice' to a longtime neighbor. He would not accept it if I did something like this and told him to play nice or you are out of line. Been there, done that in 25 years of marriage.
Ugghhh. Exhausting....
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Location: Texas | Gator Bug - 2019-01-30 9:38 PM
I just got into a BIG/HUGE fight with my 65YO neighbor over this whole topic of this thread. It got so very bad that my husband had to referee. He got out of hand too and had to yell at him. I'll explain.
My neighbor is a very kind woman that sees all the good in people, to a fault. I do not. We can disagree on A LOT with people and what they are from the very beginning of meeting them. However, she claims to be the 'old Democrat' that her parents were.
We got into it tonight talking about this thread and what the new NY Law was. She didn't agree with the NY Law.
BUT... she was INSISTING that Hillary wasn't like that or for that; and Hillary DID NOT believe in that. I told her that Hillary worshipped Margaret Sanger as an idol, and did believe in partial birth abortion and Hillary FULLY believed in women's reproductive rights SOLELY up to birth. I told her that Elizabeth Warren was that way and so was Kamala Harris and every other Dem running for 2020. She said 'no' they were NOT and I lost it! BIG time. I told her to look it up. She said she would and she will not. She does that ALL the time...just convienently forgets and it is never discussed again.
My husband jumped in and tried to say that we were friends and she made a nice dinner tonight. AND, I was out of line yelling. I responded with 'exactly what is your point?' She did not agree with the NY Law BUT still continues to vote Dem or people that believe in this Law. She justified it by saying Trump 'scares' her!!!! I went off again!!!
The long and short of it is that...it has been an absolute TOTAL nightmare tonight with my longtime friend/neighbor AND my husband (that tried to make peace). I am way PO'd with him trying to calm me down. I am like a big ole bull seeing red on this. Absolutely no negotiation whatsoever. I know I am bad. Isn't that the first step in Re-Hab? Admitting you have a problem? LOL
She is a straight Dem across the board, doesn't research...just votes Democrat because that what her parents did and what she does. AND... Trump scares her but CANNOT answer 'why' when I ask her why?!?!?!?
So....that is MY night in a nut shell. It has been a nightmare on so many levels I can't even begin to say ALL of what happened. I am exhausted mentally...physically fine. Uggghhh!!!
I have a friend like that. Same age, says she reads everything political she sees. But, she only reads left leaning rhetoric so she can tell herself, yes, she's right - Trump is an anarchist, Hillary isn't a criminal (or murderer), Bill wasn't a horn dog and on and on. So OK, we don't discuss politics. The democrats today are NOT the democrats of yesteryear. |
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| Fun2Run - 2019-01-30 11:40 PM Gator Bug - 2019-01-30 9:38 PM I just got into a BIG/HUGE fight with my 65YO neighbor over this whole topic of this thread. It got so very bad that my husband had to referee. He got out of hand too and had to yell at him. I'll explain.
My neighbor is a very kind woman that sees all the good in people, to a fault. I do not. We can disagree on A LOT with people and what they are from the very beginning of meeting them. However, she claims to be the 'old Democrat' that her parents were.
We got into it tonight talking about this thread and what the new NY Law was. She didn't agree with the NY Law.
BUT... she was INSISTING that Hillary wasn't like that or for that; and Hillary DID NOT believe in that. I told her that Hillary worshipped Margaret Sanger as an idol, and did believe in partial birth abortion and Hillary FULLY believed in women's reproductive rights SOLELY up to birth. I told her that Elizabeth Warren was that way and so was Kamala Harris and every other Dem running for 2020. She said 'no' they were NOT and I lost it! BIG time. I told her to look it up. She said she would and she will not. She does that ALL the time...just convienently forgets and it is never discussed again.
My husband jumped in and tried to say that we were friends and she made a nice dinner tonight. AND, I was out of line yelling. I responded with 'exactly what is your point?' She did not agree with the NY Law BUT still continues to vote Dem or people that believe in this Law. She justified it by saying Trump 'scares' her!!!! I went off again!!!
The long and short of it is that...it has been an absolute TOTAL nightmare tonight with my longtime friend/neighbor AND my husband (that tried to make peace). I am way PO'd with him trying to calm me down. I am like a big ole bull seeing red on this. Absolutely no negotiation whatsoever. I know I am bad. Isn't that the first step in Re-Hab? Admitting you have a problem? LOL
She is a straight Dem across the board, doesn't research...just votes Democrat because that what her parents did and what she does. AND... Trump scares her but CANNOT answer 'why' when I ask her why?!?!?!?
So....that is MY night in a nut shell. It has been a nightmare on so many levels I can't even begin to say ALL of what happened. I am exhausted mentally...physically fine. Uggghhh!!! I have a friend like that. Same age, says she reads everything political she sees. But, she only reads left leaning rhetoric so she can tell herself, yes, she's right - Trump is an anarchist, Hillary isn't a criminal (or murderer ), Bill wasn't a horn dog and on and on. So OK, we don't discuss politics. The democrats today are NOT the democrats of yesteryear.
My sister is like that, Hillary never went after Bill’s paramours, never tried to destroy them, never called them tramps. Validation news is a powerful tool and they cling to it with all they have. |
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| Fun2Run - 2019-01-30 11:40 PM Gator Bug - 2019-01-30 9:38 PM I just got into a BIG/HUGE fight with my 65YO neighbor over this whole topic of this thread. It got so very bad that my husband had to referee. He got out of hand too and had to yell at him. I'll explain.
My neighbor is a very kind woman that sees all the good in people, to a fault. I do not. We can disagree on A LOT with people and what they are from the very beginning of meeting them. However, she claims to be the 'old Democrat' that her parents were.
We got into it tonight talking about this thread and what the new NY Law was. She didn't agree with the NY Law.
BUT... she was INSISTING that Hillary wasn't like that or for that; and Hillary DID NOT believe in that. I told her that Hillary worshipped Margaret Sanger as an idol, and did believe in partial birth abortion and Hillary FULLY believed in women's reproductive rights SOLELY up to birth. I told her that Elizabeth Warren was that way and so was Kamala Harris and every other Dem running for 2020. She said 'no' they were NOT and I lost it! BIG time. I told her to look it up. She said she would and she will not. She does that ALL the time...just convienently forgets and it is never discussed again.
My husband jumped in and tried to say that we were friends and she made a nice dinner tonight. AND, I was out of line yelling. I responded with 'exactly what is your point?' She did not agree with the NY Law BUT still continues to vote Dem or people that believe in this Law. She justified it by saying Trump 'scares' her!!!! I went off again!!!
The long and short of it is that...it has been an absolute TOTAL nightmare tonight with my longtime friend/neighbor AND my husband (that tried to make peace). I am way PO'd with him trying to calm me down. I am like a big ole bull seeing red on this. Absolutely no negotiation whatsoever. I know I am bad. Isn't that the first step in Re-Hab? Admitting you have a problem? LOL
She is a straight Dem across the board, doesn't research...just votes Democrat because that what her parents did and what she does. AND... Trump scares her but CANNOT answer 'why' when I ask her why?!?!?!?
So....that is MY night in a nut shell. It has been a nightmare on so many levels I can't even begin to say ALL of what happened. I am exhausted mentally...physically fine. Uggghhh!!! I have a friend like that. Same age, says she reads everything political she sees. But, she only reads left leaning rhetoric so she can tell herself, yes, she's right - Trump is an anarchist, Hillary isn't a criminal (or murderer ), Bill wasn't a horn dog and on and on. So OK, we don't discuss politics. The democrats today are NOT the democrats of yesteryear.
My sister is like that, Hillary never went after Bill’s paramours, never tried to destroy them, never called them tramps. Validation news is a powerful tool and they cling to it with all they have. |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | I hear both of you.
Me and my neighbor never really do discuss politics. But the abortion law lead into this argument last night. As she said she didn't agree with the new NY Law, but she still will vote Democrat when she doesn't agree with most of what they now stand for. I would argue that they have stood for this type of Law for a long time and now are more vocal about it. She didn't like that as she was an 'older type Dem'. She can't explain why Trump 'scares' her... he just does.
We really do stay away from Politics...normally. But this whole new NY Law and proposed laws in other states lead us into politics.
It was an unfortunate conversation and I will probably not do it again... at all with anything that can lead into the whole political spectrum. I just didn't really realize it would go there last night. Again...will not go there in the future.
ETA... I have (we both have) another neighbor that is a staunch Liberal Dem. Her and I can argue/discuss Left and Right. It gets heated sometimes. But we walk away from the conversation respecting one another's opinions and each other. We are all cool afterwards. Last night, there was no back and forth, no justification for her position. It was just that she doesn't like/agree with the NY Law/proposed laws in other states or much of what the 'new' Dems do/stand for...but she still votes that way. There was just no logic to it.
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Location: North Texas | Gator Bug - 2019-01-31 7:34 AM
I hear both of you.
Me and my neighbor never really do discuss politics. But the abortion law lead into this argument last night. As she said she didn't agree with the new NY Law, but she still will vote Democrat when she doesn't agree with most of what they now stand for. I would argue that they have stood for this type of Law for a long time and now are more vocal about it. She didn't like that as she was an 'older type Dem'. She can't explain why Trump 'scares' her... he just does.
We really do stay away from Politics...normally. But this whole new NY Law and proposed laws in other states lead us into politics.
It was an unfortunate conversation and I will probably not do it again... at all with anything that can lead into the whole political spectrum. I just didn't really realize it would go there last night. Again...will not go there in the future.
ETA... I have (we both have) another neighbor that is a staunch Liberal Dem. Her and I can argue/discuss Left and Right. It gets heated sometimes. But we walk away from the conversation respecting one another's opinions and each other. We are all cool afterwards. Last night, there was no back and forth, no justification for her position. It was just that she doesn't like/agree with the NY Law/proposed laws in other states or much of what the 'new' Dems do/stand for...but she still votes that way. There was just no logic to it.
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| MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 1:08 PM
It sounds to me like the verbiage for the health of the mother is pretty vague and could mean a lot of things (read: loopholes). A lot of libs on my fb freaking out today that conservatives are so upset about this and I would like to have a better understanding of it before responding yo anyone. I will wade thru the links/suggestions you all sent....thanks a bunch!
We talked about this in a women's studies class I took in college. All a woman has say is "if I can't have an abortion, I'll kill myself." That counts as a health concern for the mother, so a practitioner can use that as a reason to perform the abortion. My very liberal, pro-life teacher even understood that's a problem. |
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Location: Kansas | All the news we heard in the last couple of days about liberals and late-term abortion......liberal media isn't carrying this (shocker) so when you talk to folks who are liberal about this subject, they don't even know what you're talking about and get defensive. MSM protects them from reality.
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