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CYA Ranch
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Another amazing barrel race tonight! 
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Shada- This team just needs to get that third barrel figured out. This was definitely a better third barrel than Round 5, but it still cost them a bunch. If the draw reins didn't come out in practice, they still should. If they have, I would sure love to see Shada kick in the afterburners and make that sucker RUN to the third. He may not turn it pretty, but right now, he's hanging up something bad. On another note, I wish the cameras had panned away from Trevor last night.

This also made me cringe.

Great critique as always! Especially liked how you mentioned the part about how aggressively Taylor is riding Bo with her core. This is something I have never considered quite in those terms and could definitely apply to my own riding.Β 

Β I must have missed something. To me it just looked like disappointment that the run wasn't faster. I didn't read anything bad into it.
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It was a really fun night of barrel racing to watch! I'll do my critique post as soon as it's up on Youtube and I can watch, type, watch the next.

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WrapSnap - 2013-12-11 11:26 PM It was a really fun night of barrel racing to watch! I'll do my critique post as soon as it's up on Youtube and I can watch, type, watch the next.

Excellent round.  I have goosebumps!   
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In running order

Michelle- What a great run for Michelle and Slick! Michelle is on her mental game! She certainly didn't let the last couple of nights get to her. I felt like Michelle really stepped on the gas pedal and hustled Slick all the way through the turns tonight, rather than trying to lead him off with the outside rein so much. It definitely worked! Great, textbook, trademark run from this team.

Mary- Latte has such a fun style to watch. Mary pulled off a couple of very veteran moves in this run. In earlier rounds, she tried to hold Latte off a bit with her hands. Tonight, she hustled him into the turns quite aggressively. When that alone wasn't enough, Mary really stepped to the outside and held her line with her body, even when Latte was closing in fast. Not an easy feat in any situation, but especially not in this arena, where the turn is going to happen so fast. Very impressed with Mary tonight.

Sherry- Stingray is definitely tightening up even more as the days go on. Sherry did a phenomenal job, as always of holding it together. I just hope that she can continue to manage the fact that the mare is getting so short and make it through the next few rounds clean.

Trula- What a difference a bit change can make! Improving upon last night's run, I felt like both Trula and Worm have a fresh perspective. Trula is riding so much more aggressively than she was a couple of Rounds back and it sure is showing. Worm hung a foot for a step on the backside of the 2nd, but Trula just kept hustling on through. I'm excited for this team.

Sydni- I'm very proud of Sydni tonight. Sometimes, back to basics is the way to go. No matter if you're at the NFR, or not, when things need fixing, you need to see to it and I felt that she did just that. Clancy still got out of square leaving the first, but Sydni rode him two handed and kept him straight all the way up into the hole at the second. That allowed them to leave straighter and carry a better line to the third. I felt as though Sydni took a bit of a breath on the way to the third, as if to say "Whew, that worked". Couple that moment with her then looking down and in and the third barrel turn just started to happen a stride too soon. Hopefully, all the pieces fall into place for them tomorrow. Cleaning those things up in regards to the 2nd barrel certainly showed in her time tonight.

Shada- Shada definitely got a bit ahead of the motion at the first barrel tonight. Dial It's inside shoulder dropped a bit quickly and Shada got dashboarded. Dial It definitely help up a moment to allow her to get back in the middle, but all in all, it was a nice turn. This horse just never seems to miss a beat at the second barrel. This many rounds in, when so many horses are getting short, he just runs right to his spot and does his job wonderfully. I felt like they worked their third barrel kinks out tonight. I felt like Shada held onto him a bit leaving the third tonight. This could be partly because of him having not finished it in previous rounds. I also think that it could, in large part be because she has a bit too much rein. Either way, it cost her a bit. They may not be cashing much in the Rounds, but they are looking to stay solid in that average.

Jean- It was hard to tell whether it was Jean's leg, or Zan's hip that caught that post coming in, but I believe it was his hip. Hoping that all is well there. I was disappointed to see Jean get to the inside at the first tonight. It sure can be hard to stay square on one that drops in and turns like that. The happy moment during this run, for me was to see Jean adjust her line across to the second barrel. Instead of riding him straighter to it and then moving, she left the first headed to the 2nd barrel pocket and it worked. Very nice 2nd barrel for them tonight. Jean again got tipped to the inside at the third and bumped it coming in. I don't know if staying two handed one step longer would help to keep her a bit more square, but I sure might try it.

Jane- Blackie stayed a bit hung out in the bend leaving the first barrel tonight. He definitely lost some time running across there like that. As a result, Jane had to ride all the way passed the second barrel really leading with that outside rein, even more than her normal style. This caused for a little slower turn at the second, as he had to change his arc on the backside. After catching the third last night, Jane really hustled down there tonight. While I might still like to see even just a bit deeper a pocket, they had a very nice third turn.

Lisa- Louie got just a smidge tight coming into the first tonight. Lisa gave him just the slightest of lift on that inside rein and he squared back up beautifully. Great bit of riding and quick reflexes for Lisa. This pair just always make it look so easy. From there on out, it was a trademark run for a super consistent horse/rider combination. Has Louie won Horse of the Year honors yet? He should!

Taylor- Another great run from this team. The first barrel was improved from last night, with a great finish. A big, hard turning horse like this that wants to run in with no pocket can certainly make one wince a bit, as he has at the 2nd barrel the last two nights. It's just his way of working and I feel like Taylor does a great job of trusting him there. Bo's stiffer style may be catching up with him just a bit at this point. He nosed out just a bit more at the third tonight and tried to flatten a little coming into the turn. Taylor did a great job of dropping her shoulders back behind her and really pushing him forward with her seat and thigh to get him by the backside. Sure, he stepped off just a bit, but with any less of a ride from Taylor, that could have ended up being a very costly third barrel.

Kaley- I don't think Cowboy could turn a bad first barrel if he tried. Kaley got all the way into the pocket before she leaned at the second tonight and it allowed for Cowboy to start a much better turn. That lean appeared once again at the third barrel tonight. By leaning where she did, Kaley threw Cowboy's weight all onto that inside shoulder, which caused his hind end to pop out of the ground. That move caused Cowboy to really slide out through the turn. Throwing yourself up one's neck will get you by a barrel every now and again, but Taylor's way of doing it is sure more correct and effective.

Brittany- Superfly got in a bit running to the first and cut off the pocket a hair, causing them to have to get just a bit deep behind it tonight. Brittany got to the inside again on the backside of the second, which caused Fly to plant his front end and come a bit out of position. This put them on a "gappy" line to the third. Having too much room to the third definitely encouraged Fly to start the turn a bit too soon and Brittany laying in and leading off sealed the deal. Hopefully she'll stay more upright for him in future rounds. This is no doubt a great pair and I hope she stays on him and cleans those things up.

Sabrina- I was actually surprised to see Sabrina get back on Swivel tonight. I would love to see Sabrina ride a bit assertively at the first barrel. If she could just get Swivel to sit down and finish that first barrel, so many things could be different. Due to having blown so far off the backside of the first, she really needed to ride aggressively to get back in position for a good second barrel. I just feel like she didn't. I'm not sure if she was just exasperated after having blown off the first and hitting the second, but I felt like the ride ended there. The third was was it was and not much of an attempt was made to ensure that it went any differently.

Fallon- Fallon seems to have regained her momentum. Another nice first barrel from BabyFlo. I feel like Fallon is enjoying her new tricks maybe a little too much. That little bump she gave on her outside rein at the second barrel seemed to carry them by the backside a bit more than she intended. BabyFlo snapped back and stayed very balanced, however. Fallon made that same move with her outside rein at the third barrel again tonight and it worked just like she intended, for the second night in a row. I'm not sure that the blinkers are truly having an effect on BabyFlo, as she never got short going to the third before, it was once the turn was intiated that the problem arose. I give the credit for the last two nights' runs to the fact that Fallon is getting two handed and driving her up in there squarely. If it took slapping the blinkers on for Fallon to have that sort of confidence, so be it!

Christy- By the 7th Round, Movin' is getting a little hotter. She ran a bit stronger tonight and was definitely a bit strung out in the turns. Movin' ran herself off of her feet a little bit at the first barrel. That slip and lack of having her hind end really up underneath her not only caused the turn to be less accurate, but it also robbed them of her normal snap away from the barrel. While well positioned at the second barrel, I again felt as though Movin' ran through her rate point a bit tonight without really getting herself put together for the turn. Christy did an excellent job of setting her in Round 6 and a bit of that same ride might have been called for tonight. The mare's anxiety and fiery mood was evident as she shook her head a bit after leaving the 2nd. Christy did a great job of using her inside rein to set Movin' back over her hock and get her put together for a very nice third barrel tonight.



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Very good write up! It also looked like Sydni had some new head gear on Clancy tonight. 
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I also felt that Sabrina really just stopped riding after the first, I mean I cant say I wouldnt do the same because you pretty much know your run is gonna be a struggle when you leave your first that way. Really hope she gets a mojo here before its all said in done.

I cant help but be curious if much would have changed with Brittany on Duke, although I do love seeing these newbies out there holding their own! I feel that Britt tends to lean a lot? Even from previous years Ive noticed that. Is that just kinda her style because obviously she makes it to the NFR but it seems to be the root of a lot of tips too??? (no snarkyness meant, just curious)

That Louie sure doesnt make many mistakes and I dont know why but I feel like he covers so much ground when headed home!!! So many great runs, I was so happy for Trula!!!! She worked it out tonight and worked hard for that run! So exciting to see some struggles get rewarded.

I think Latte is in for some fast paced runs, imagine if he had finished 3rd better... woofta!

Definetely some fast horses and some flawless patterns being run this year in the T&M.
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bccanchaser16 - 2013-12-12 1:13 AM

Very good write up! It also looked like Sydni had some new head gear on Clancy tonight.Β 

She did indeed! While you certainly might not expect to see one being ridden in a heavy ring snaffle, a set of rings and what for all intents and purposes could have been split reins at the NFR, Sydni took it back to basics and tried to clean up the things that she needed to. Nobody wants to have to school one at the NFR, but Clancy is a very nice horse and Sydni seems to be doing just what she needs to. She knows that this is but one rodeo and she is getting things right. He'll be back on top as soon as he gets back to setups that agree with him more, I'm sure.
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 Anyone else notice Sydni not really hustling?
Maybe it's not what the horse needs but it sure stood out to me.
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hammer_time - 2013-12-12 3:15 AM  Anyone else notice Sydni not really hustling?

Maybe it's not what the horse needs but it sure stood out to me.

I'd read an article (and someone posted it on one of these threads) that she had broken her tailbone this year and had really bad nerve damage that was incredibly painful. I wonder if that's still bothering her. I'd love to see her get in the money before the week's over.

I was so rooting for Sherry to get in last night - she's made money in every round! Can someone clarify- I saw this on FB maybe, does she get a Ram truck if she does it in all 10 rounds?  

And of course- props to Taylor & Bo! 
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I love the critique!!!  I am learning a ton.

And I am just going to say I am friggin GIDDY to have Andy coming out in January!!!!  Oh the fun!!!!
 
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hammer_time - 2013-12-12 3:15 AM  Anyone else notice Sydni not really hustling?

Maybe it's not what the horse needs but it sure stood out to me.
I'd read an article (and someone posted it on one of these threads) that she had broken her tailbone this year and had really bad nerve damage that was incredibly painful. I wonder if that's still bothering her. I'd love to see her get in the money before the week's over.



I was so rooting for Sherry to get in last night - she's made money in every round! Can someone clarify- I saw this on FB maybe, does she get a Ram truck if she does it in all 10 rounds?  



And of course- props to Taylor & Bo! 

I have been wondering the same thing. She was off for a couple months and couldn't walk at one point! She had said when she got back riding she was still sore and it hurt but not to the point it had been hurting her.  I would think it is still bothering her and maybe a reason she isn't running Twisted Sister again, because if she throws her back into the saddle that could cause her to re-hurt it.
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KDS - 2013-12-12 6:28 AM
hammer_time - 2013-12-12 3:15 AM  Anyone else notice Sydni not really hustling?

Maybe it's not what the horse needs but it sure stood out to me.
I'd read an article (and someone posted it on one of these threads) that she had broken her tailbone this year and had really bad nerve damage that was incredibly painful. I wonder if that's still bothering her. I'd love to see her get in the money before the week's over.



I was so rooting for Sherry to get in last night - she's made money in every round! Can someone clarify- I saw this on FB maybe, does she get a Ram truck if she does it in all 10 rounds?  



And of course- props to Taylor & Bo! 

 It's the most money won at the NFR that gets the Ram truck.....I think....
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hammer_time - 2013-12-12 3:15 AM Β Anyone else notice Sydni not really hustling?

Maybe it's not what the horse needs but it sure stood out to me.
I'd read an article (and someone posted it on one of these threads) that she had broken her tailbone this year and had really bad nerve damage that was incredibly painful. I wonder if that's still bothering her. I'd love to see her get in the money before the week's over.



I was so rooting for Sherry to get in last night - she's made money in every round! Can someone clarify- I saw this on FB maybe, does she get a Ram truck if she does it in all 10 rounds?Β Β 



And of course- props to Taylor & Bo!Β 

Β It's the most money won at the NFR that gets the Ram truck.....I think....

Top Gun award gets the truck and right now Taylor is leading it!

I haven't found any info on whether or not average money is included. http://prorodeo.com/topgun_standings.aspx
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hammer_time - 2013-12-12 3:15 AM  Anyone else notice Sydni not really hustling?

Maybe it's not what the horse needs but it sure stood out to me.
I'd read an article (and someone posted it on one of these threads) that she had broken her tailbone this year and had really bad nerve damage that was incredibly painful. I wonder if that's still bothering her. I'd love to see her get in the money before the week's over.



I was so rooting for Sherry to get in last night - she's made money in every round! Can someone clarify- I saw this on FB maybe, does she get a Ram truck if she does it in all 10 rounds?  



And of course- props to Taylor & Bo! 
 It's the most money won at the NFR that gets the Ram truck.....I think....
Top Gun award gets the truck and right now Taylor is leading it! I haven't found any info on whether or not average money is included. http://prorodeo.com/topgun_standings.aspx

That's what I questioned the other day too.  I don't think it counts the average, just the go round money.  
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~~Shada- Shada definitely got a bit ahead of the motion at the first barrel tonight. Dial It's inside shoulder dropped a bit quickly and Shada got dashboarded. Dial It definitely help up a moment to allow her to get back in the middle, but all in all, it was a nice turn. This horse just never seems to miss a beat at the second barrel. This many rounds in, when so many horses are getting short, he just runs right to his spot and does his job wonderfully. I felt like they worked their third barrel kinks out tonight. I felt like Shada held onto him a bit leaving the third tonight. This could be partly because of him having not finished it in previous rounds. I also think that it could, in large part be because she has a bit too much rein. Either way, it cost her a bit. They may not be cashing much in the Rounds, but they are looking to stay solid in that average.  

I noticed in the first round that her reins seemed too long. Maybe that is how she feels comfortable, not sure. I like a short rein. Helps keep my hands down and a quicker reaction time, with less movement. 


 
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WrapSnap - 2013-12-11 5:00 PM Shada- This team just needs to get that third barrel figured out. This was definitely a better third barrel than Round 5, but it still cost them a bunch. If the draw reins didn't come out in practice, they still should. If they have, I would sure love to see Shada kick in the afterburners and make that sucker RUN to the third. He may not turn it pretty, but right now, he's hanging up something bad. On another note, I wish the cameras had panned away from Trevor last night.

I know that all the contestants are under pressure, but Shada has got to really be under some heavy pressure.  No matter how supportive and non-judgemental Trevor is, to have a spouse that successful has to be hard to try to live up to.  Very different also from being a competitor to a spectator/supporter of a competitor.
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hammer_time - 2013-12-12 3:15 AM  Anyone else notice Sydni not really hustling?

Maybe it's not what the horse needs but it sure stood out to me.
I'd read an article (and someone posted it on one of these threads) that she had broken her tailbone this year and had really bad nerve damage that was incredibly painful. I wonder if that's still bothering her. I'd love to see her get in the money before the week's over.



I was so rooting for Sherry to get in last night - she's made money in every round! Can someone clarify- I saw this on FB maybe, does she get a Ram truck if she does it in all 10 rounds?  



And of course- props to Taylor & Bo! 
 It's the most money won at the NFR that gets the Ram truck.....I think....
Top Gun award gets the truck and right now Taylor is leading it! I haven't found any info on whether or not average money is included. http://prorodeo.com/topgun_standings.aspx
That's what I questioned the other day too.  I don't think it counts the average, just the go round money.  

From past years information, it is the most money won in a single event at the WNFR, so that would include average money.
Mary won it last year with $146,941, that must have included the average money.



 
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KDS - 2013-12-12 6:28 AM
hammer_time - 2013-12-12 3:15 AM  Anyone else notice Sydni not really hustling?

Maybe it's not what the horse needs but it sure stood out to me.
I'd read an article (and someone posted it on one of these threads) that she had broken her tailbone this year and had really bad nerve damage that was incredibly painful. I wonder if that's still bothering her. I'd love to see her get in the money before the week's over.



I was so rooting for Sherry to get in last night - she's made money in every round! Can someone clarify- I saw this on FB maybe, does she get a Ram truck if she does it in all 10 rounds?  



And of course- props to Taylor & Bo! 
 It's the most money won at the NFR that gets the Ram truck.....I think....
Top Gun award gets the truck and right now Taylor is leading it! I haven't found any info on whether or not average money is included. http://prorodeo.com/topgun_standings.aspx
That's what I questioned the other day too.  I don't think it counts the average, just the go round money.  
From past years information, it is the most money won in a single event at the WNFR, so that would include average money.

Mary won it last year with $146,941, that must have included the average money.






 

Hey thanks for the info!  
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