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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Hotbearlvr, if you start wearing bras, then we will let you barrel race with the women.......fair enough??? Plus.....we're going to need pictures and you have to wear the bra on the outside of your shirt.......yeah......that should cover it.
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Location: Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 12:39 PM
Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events.
When you look at riding abilities yes. Men are less inclined to be scared and are more aggressive. I love watching men run. They go all out! Its fun to watch and ot shows. Look at lance. Hes a master! Now this doesn't go for all men of course but for the majority. Anything horsey is dominated by men....except barrel racing. (Idk about englsh however) my best mentors have been men. I learned so much more from them because they are so full on and expect perfection. They are hard on their students and it shows in the end result. I'm a better rider because of them. More aggressive no fear. |
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Location: Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 12:39 PM
Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:50 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 12:39 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events. When you look at riding abilities yes. Men are less inclined to be scared and are more aggressive. I love watching men run. They go all out! Its fun to watch and ot shows. Look at lance. Hes a master! Now this doesn't go for all men of course but for the majority. Anything horsey is dominated by men.... except barrel racing. (Idk about englsh however ) my best mentors have been men. I learned so much more from them because they are so full on and expect perfection. They are hard on their students and it shows in the end result. I'm a better rider because of them. More aggressive no fear.
So.....why not allow them to compete? If they don't dominate barrel racing, what's the purpose of selectively locking them out? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | If a woman wants to enlist in a branch of the military and if she wants to fight in combat, should she be allowed to do it if she can pass certain physical standards? Should she be prohibited just because she's a woman? |
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Location: Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:02 PM
Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:50 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 12:39 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events. When you look at riding abilities yes. Men are less inclined to be scared and are more aggressive. I love watching men run. They go all out! Its fun to watch and ot shows. Look at lance. Hes a master! Now this doesn't go for all men of course but for the majority. Anything horsey is dominated by men.... except barrel racing. (Idk about englsh however ) my best mentors have been men. I learned so much more from them because they are so full on and expect perfection. They are hard on their students and it shows in the end result. I'm a better rider because of them. More aggressive no fear.
Because they are locked out is why it isnt dominated by men in PRCA. If men are allowed to run at PRCA rodeos before long it too will be dominated by men as well. By locking men out it allows women to showcase in their sport. Barrel racing was created by WOMEN so they could have something to do besides cheer their husbands on at rodeos. They wanted to compete and instead of raising hell to compete in the MENS events they created their own, so keeping with tradition it should strictly be a women's sport at professional rodeos.
Men can still compete at top events in barrel racing. Keep actual rodeo traditional and only allow women to race. If PRCA were to open all events to women then I would say open barrel racing to men. But not until then.
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Location: Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:07 PM
If a woman wants to enlist in a branch of the military and if she wants to fight in combat, should she be allowed to do it if she can pass certain physical standards? Should she be prohibited just because she's a woman?
Oh this just opened a can worms. I'm out lol! |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 1:10 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:02 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:50 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 12:39 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events. When you look at riding abilities yes. Men are less inclined to be scared and are more aggressive. I love watching men run. They go all out! Its fun to watch and ot shows. Look at lance. Hes a master! Now this doesn't go for all men of course but for the majority. Anything horsey is dominated by men.... except barrel racing. (Idk about englsh however ) my best mentors have been men. I learned so much more from them because they are so full on and expect perfection. They are hard on their students and it shows in the end result. I'm a better rider because of them. More aggressive no fear. If men are allowed to run at PRCA rodeos before long it too will be dominated by men as well. By locking men out it allows women to showcase in their sport. Barrel racing was created by WOMEN so they could have something to do besides cheer their husbands on at rodeos. They wanted to compete and instead of raising hell to compete in the MENS events they created their own, so keeping with tradition it should strictly be a women's sport at professional rodeos. Men can still compete at top events in barrel racing. Keep actual rodeo traditional and only allow women to race. If PRCA were to open all events to women then I would say open barrel racing to men. But not until then.
I wish you could have a conversation with one of the founding members of the GRA and maybe you would be a little more respectful of what they accomplished.
Women ARE allowed in every PRCA event by the way. The WPRA is the sanctioning body for barrel racing in the NFR...that's why men are not allowed. It's a WOMEN'S association. If there are men that feel strongly enough about this subject then they should follow the path of the ladies of the GRA and do something about it. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:07 PM If a woman wants to enlist in a branch of the military and if she wants to fight in combat, should she be allowed to do it if she can pass certain physical standards? Should she be prohibited just because she's a woman?
I guess that's ok as long as she doesn't have to wear a bra or have cramps...... |
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Location: Texas | rachellyn80 - 2014-03-06 1:14 PM
Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 1:10 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:02 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:50 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 12:39 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events. When you look at riding abilities yes. Men are less inclined to be scared and are more aggressive. I love watching men run. They go all out! Its fun to watch and ot shows. Look at lance. Hes a master! Now this doesn't go for all men of course but for the majority. Anything horsey is dominated by men.... except barrel racing. (Idk about englsh however ) my best mentors have been men. I learned so much more from them because they are so full on and expect perfection. They are hard on their students and it shows in the end result. I'm a better rider because of them. More aggressive no fear. If men are allowed to run at PRCA rodeos before long it too will be dominated by men as well. By locking men out it allows women to showcase in their sport. Barrel racing was created by WOMEN so they could have something to do besides cheer their husbands on at rodeos. They wanted to compete and instead of raising hell to compete in the MENS events they created their own, so keeping with tradition it should strictly be a women's sport at professional rodeos. Men can still compete at top events in barrel racing. Keep actual rodeo traditional and only allow women to race. If PRCA were to open all events to women then I would say open barrel racing to men. But not until then.
Women ARE allowed in every PRCA event by the way. The WPRA is the sanctioning body for barrel racing in the NFR...that's why men are not allowed. It's a WOMEN'S association. If there are men that feel strongly enough about this subject then they should follow the path of the ladies of the GRA and do something about it.
I'm not sure if this directed at me or hotbearluver. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | rachellyn80 - 2014-03-06 1:14 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 1:10 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:02 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:50 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 12:39 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events. When you look at riding abilities yes. Men are less inclined to be scared and are more aggressive. I love watching men run. They go all out! Its fun to watch and ot shows. Look at lance. Hes a master! Now this doesn't go for all men of course but for the majority. Anything horsey is dominated by men.... except barrel racing. (Idk about englsh however ) my best mentors have been men. I learned so much more from them because they are so full on and expect perfection. They are hard on their students and it shows in the end result. I'm a better rider because of them. More aggressive no fear. If men are allowed to run at PRCA rodeos before long it too will be dominated by men as well. By locking men out it allows women to showcase in their sport. Barrel racing was created by WOMEN so they could have something to do besides cheer their husbands on at rodeos. They wanted to compete and instead of raising hell to compete in the MENS events they created their own, so keeping with tradition it should strictly be a women's sport at professional rodeos. Men can still compete at top events in barrel racing. Keep actual rodeo traditional and only allow women to race. If PRCA were to open all events to women then I would say open barrel racing to men. But not until then.
Women ARE allowed in every PRCA event by the way. The WPRA is the sanctioning body for barrel racing in the NFR...that's why men are not allowed. It's a WOMEN'S association. If there are men that feel strongly enough about this subject then they should follow the path of the ladies of the GRA and do something about it.
This discussion IS doing something about it. Changes don't just happen out of the blue. The pros and cons are discussed and debated.
That's what we are doing. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | So I guess to say Sherry Cervi is "World Champion" is a little misleading then? She is "Women's Barrel Racing World Champion". That's pretty accurate, correct? If men aren't allowed to compete against her then maybe there really should be an asterisk next to her title. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:28 PM So I guess to say Sherry Cervi is "World Champion" is a little misleading then? She is "Women's Barrel Racing World Champion". That's pretty accurate, correct? If men aren't allowed to compete against her then maybe there really should be an asterisk next to her title.
If you notice...even at the top of this page she is referred to as the WPRA World Champion. |
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Location: Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:28 PM
So I guess to say Sherry Cervi is "World Champion" is a little misleading then? She is "Women's Barrel Racing World Champion". That's pretty accurate, correct? If men aren't allowed to compete against her then maybe there really should be an asterisk next to her title.
Then every man who has ever won a world title should have that same asterick. Because he never once competed against a Women to get that title. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:28 PM So I guess to say Sherry Cervi is "World Champion" is a little misleading then? She is "Women's Barrel Racing World Champion". That's pretty accurate, correct? If men aren't allowed to compete against her then maybe there really should be an asterisk next to her title.
I'll concede if you say that Clint Sherlin wasn't the first man in a rodeo lol. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | rachellyn80 - 2014-03-06 1:31 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:28 PM So I guess to say Sherry Cervi is "World Champion" is a little misleading then? She is "Women's Barrel Racing World Champion". That's pretty accurate, correct? If men aren't allowed to compete against her then maybe there really should be an asterisk next to her title. If you notice...even at the top of this page she is referred to as the WPRA World Champion.
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Location: The edge of no where | Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:50 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 12:39 PM Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 12:22 PM sodapop - 2014-03-03 11:45 PM The PRCA should just ditch the WPRA and include barrel racing as part of the PRCA and include men. Then the men would be able to compete. Why do you think they won't do that? They were at odds one year with the WPRA and created a separate association for barrel racing and still didn't include men when they had the chance to make their own rules. They are a male dominated association. So why don't they make sure men are competing in barrel racing at their rodeos? As far as other rodeo associations, why aren't the men of those associations fighting for men to compete in the barrel racing at rodeos? WPRA will sue just like they did when Sherri tried to create the PBRA. Keep it traditional. Men have 8 other events. Women have one. At least that they can make it to the NFR on.And yes the PRCA may be open to women (idk havmt read rules lately ) but lets face it. Men are the superior gender and we can't compete with them in most of the events. When you look at riding abilities yes. Men are less inclined to be scared and are more aggressive. I love watching men run. They go all out! Its fun to watch and ot shows. Look at lance. Hes a master! Now this doesn't go for all men of course but for the majority. Anything horsey is dominated by men....except barrel racing. (Idk about englsh however ) my best mentors have been men. I learned so much more from them because they are so full on and expect perfection. They are hard on their students and it shows in the end result. I'm a better rider because of them. More aggressive no fear.
Absolutely have to disagree with you. That is one of the reasons I LOVE equestrian activities. Horsemanship doesn't pick a gender. The toughest instructor I ever had when I was riding jumpers was a woman. It's based on the individual and what we demand of ourselves. Saying that anything horsey is dominated by men, is false. Perhaps roping events are....but go watch a hunter/jumper show. Watch the open jumpers. Go watch a 3 day event. Go to a dressage show. Barrel futuries aren't male dominated.
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Location: The edge of no where | Alicat0909 - 2014-03-06 1:31 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-06 1:28 PM So I guess to say Sherry Cervi is "World Champion" is a little misleading then? She is "Women's Barrel Racing World Champion". That's pretty accurate, correct? If men aren't allowed to compete against her then maybe there really should be an asterisk next to her title. Then every man who has ever won a world title should have that same asterick. Because he never once competed against a Women to get that title.
This is incorrect also. There are women who compete in the PRCA. |
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