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Location: South Dakota | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 11:04 AM OhMax - 2014-04-28 10:41 AM ndcowgirl - 2014-04-28 10:35 AM Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms Ditto... Just saying, it's been a source of huge confusion for exactly what this outbreak is. I'm going to trust the Stillwater vets as they have been much closer to the action. Our mare did have neurological symptoms. She had lost hind end control and she was unable to urinate. She also had nasal discharge Thursday the 24th, the day she was euthanized. Her tests are positive for EHV-1 NON NEUROTROPHIC strain. We are extremely grateful for Stillwater vets. The have been in constant contact with us. Sending over more info and helping us monitor the rest of our herd. They have went above and beyond. Our local vets have been zero help. I had to call Kentucky to see if the tests were in. They of course couldn't release the info. Then had to badger the local vet to get the results. They didn't seem too concerned. You think they would have been a little more professional throughout this whole ordeal. I would like to thanks everybody for the kindess. We are holding the blame on ourselves. We knew the risks. We thought we took all the necessary precautions for safe travel. In the end it wasn't enough. We have come forward in hope that information will save just one horse.
Thinking of you and so sorry you are going through this! Have they said how many days you have until you know your other horses are ok? I'm sure every day without symptoms is a really good thing. Sending hugs! |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | powerstroke power - 2014-04-28 12:43 PM
Did you haul with anyone to BRF? If so, have they hauled elsewhere since? How are their horses?
We hauled 2 mares. Both belonged to us. The other mare is fine. We are monitoring temps 3 times a day on every horse we own. Horse have been home since the BFR. We haven't been anywhere. |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Timber Creek - 2014-04-28 12:55 PM
Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 11:04 AM OhMax - 2014-04-28 10:41 AM ndcowgirl - 2014-04-28 10:35 AM Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms Ditto... Just saying, it's been a source of huge confusion for exactly what this outbreak is. I'm going to trust the Stillwater vets as they have been much closer to the action. Our mare did have neurological symptoms. She had lost hind end control and she was unable to urinate. She also had nasal discharge Thursday the 24th, the day she was euthanized. Her tests are positive for EHV-1 NON NEUROTROPHIC strain. We are extremely grateful for Stillwater vets. The have been in constant contact with us. Sending over more info and helping us monitor the rest of our herd. They have went above and beyond. Our local vets have been zero help. I had to call Kentucky to see if the tests were in. They of course couldn't release the info. Then had to badger the local vet to get the results. They didn't seem too concerned. You think they would have been a little more professional throughout this whole ordeal. I would like to thanks everybody for the kindess. We are holding the blame on ourselves. We knew the risks. We thought we took all the necessary precautions for safe travel. In the end it wasn't enough. We have come forward in hope that information will save just one horse.
Taking temps for another 2 weeks. No horses in or out for 30 days. Also we aren't allowing any horse owners on the property and we aren't going to any property that has horses or to any horse related events. Under lock down. State inspector may come out to do walk through. |
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Location: never in the right place | my horse and the horse that gave him EHV1 at the vets, are still there. Mine tested positive on April 11, the other horse was positive on April 5. they are both still shedding the virus. I was told it could take up to 28 days, they are in the quarantine barn and all personnal have to wear gowns, gloves, foot bath when coming out of stall and have to wear separate stuff for each horse. This is in Ct. |
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| I wonder how many horses went to bbr that where in contact with these horses or that went to bonus race ? This is so crazy , we are so worried ! I also wonder if these horses where vaccinated for rhino ( yes I do know it is not for ehv1 ) ? We wonder it vaccine may help in any way or ???? Fort smith is just around the corner , just hope NO horses that attended bbr come down with this . So sorry for all involve can't believe this terrialbe stuff is back . |
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| Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:05 PM I wonder how many horses went to bbr that where in contact with these horses or that went to bonus race ? This is so crazy , we are so worried ! I also wonder if these horses where vaccinated for rhino ( yes I do know it is not for ehv1 ) ? We wonder it vaccine may help in any way or ???? Fort smith is just around the corner , just hope NO horses that attended bbr come down with this . So sorry for all involve can't believe this terrialbe stuff is back .
Quite a few horses that went to Lincoln went to BBR. I can think of a handful right off the top of my head, without looking. |
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Location: Kansas | Nateracer - 2014-04-28 2:08 PM Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:05 PM I wonder how many horses went to bbr that where in contact with these horses or that went to bonus race ? This is so crazy , we are so worried ! I also wonder if these horses where vaccinated for rhino ( yes I do know it is not for ehv1 ) ? We wonder it vaccine may help in any way or ???? Fort smith is just around the corner , just hope NO horses that attended bbr come down with this . So sorry for all involve can't believe this terrialbe stuff is back . Quite a few horses that went to Lincoln went to BBR. I can think of a handful right off the top of my head, without looking.
Me too. I can think of 10 different horses just thinking of my FB friends who posted about going. |
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| NOT what we wanted to here ! Thank goodness we did not go . Seems there are lots of people not taking this serious , guess they have never had to pay a BIG vet bill or lost a great horse ! It is so hard to watch this go around and know people are thinking it won't happen to them and they are right it iseems to only happen to those that care so deeply for there horses ! We are staying home tell we know it is safe , we love are horses too much to put them in danger !!!! |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:29 PM
NOT what we wanted to here ! Thank goodness we did not go . Seems there are lots of people not taking this serious , guess they have never had to pay a BIG vet bill or lost a great horse ! It is so hard to watch this go around and know people are thinking it won't happen to them and they are right it iseems to only happen to those that care so deeply for there horses ! We are staying home tell we know it is safe , we love are horses too much to put them in danger !!!!
I sure hope you are not implying that we don't love our horse. She is the mare I bought when I was 21 to get back into barrel racing. We travel 20 hours to FL to get her. She was the one we wanted that badly. A few years ago we faced a huge decision with this mare. Tie back surgery or euthanized. We opted for surgery we spent thousands saving this mare. It didn't matter that she was a 4/5D horse and the surgery cost more than the mare. She was the mare I planned on my daughter moving up too. We are dealing with enough guilt within our family. People aren't stepping up because of the negative back lash. We are trying to help in any way we can so we can prevent another death. I was prepared for the negative and I'm really trying to let it not bother me but it is hard. |
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| NO I WOULD NEVER THINK THAT ! We all love are horses ! After knowing this is out there I would just have a hard time going to a place and have to stall my horses In a closed in barn With horses that have been exposed to this horrable stufff ! Some people have never had anything bad happen to there horses and we have , so we know it could be one of our horses !we are sorry for your for your family ! And hope NO other horses get this terrible stuff ! |
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Location: Kansas | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 2:40 PM Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:29 PM NOT what we wanted to here ! Thank goodness we did not go . Seems there are lots of people not taking this serious , guess they have never had to pay a BIG vet bill or lost a great horse ! It is so hard to watch this go around and know people are thinking it won't happen to them and they are right it iseems to only happen to those that care so deeply for there horses ! We are staying home tell we know it is safe , we love are horses too much to put them in danger !!!! I sure hope you are not implying that we don't love our horse. She is the mare I bought when I was 21 to get back into barrel racing. We travel 20 hours to FL to get her. She was the one we wanted that badly. A few years ago we faced a huge decision with this mare. Tie back surgery or euthanized. We opted for surgery we spent thousands saving this mare. It didn't matter that she was a 4/5D horse and the surgery cost more than the mare. She was the mare I planned on my daughter moving up too. We are dealing with enough guilt within our family. People aren't stepping up because of the negative back lash. We are trying to help in any way we can so we can prevent another death. I was prepared for the negative and I'm really trying to let it not bother me but it is hard.
Keep your chin up and don't blame yourself. So many vets from all over the country told clients it was safe to go that I don't see how anyone could be at fault. From the research I did, this virus has been around for years and will be around well into the future, so contracting it is a risk we take by transporting our horses to any show, the vet clinic, or an arena where anyone else can take their horse, or heck even by buying a new horse and bringing it home! Everyone knows running barrels is risky - we could die, our horse could fall and break its neck, there are just so many freak things that can happen, but its like that with anything, even just driving to work.
My heart aches for you & your daughter. I don't have a kid to pass a horse down to, but I know I'd be completely devastated if I lost any one of my horses, even the old gelding who has slowed down a lot this year. I also know how you feel about spending more than the horse is worth in vet bills.....been there, done that, got the t-shirt. (maybe we really should make t-shirts and sell them as an entry fee/vet bill fundraiser on here LOL) |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:51 PM
NO I WOULD NEVER THINK THAT ! We all love are horses ! After knowing this is out there I would just have a hard time going to a place and have to stall my horses In a closed in barn With horses that have been exposed to this horrable stufff ! Some people have never had anything bad happen to there horses and we have , so we know it could be one of our horses !we are sorry for your for your family ! And hope NO other horses get this terrible stuff !
Thanks for clarifying. I took your post a a whole different way. Maybe u am being a little over sensitive. As a whole, the horse community has been extremely supportive. I am getting tons of PMs from FB and some on here. |
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| I do know there is NO vaccine for this form of rhino , but just wondering if the horses that got ehv1 ( or what ever this maybe ) had a recent rhino buster shot or not , to see if maybe that would help prevent or not ? |
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| Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:59 PM I do know there is NO vaccine for this form of rhino , but just wondering if the horses that got ehv1 ( or what ever this maybe ) had a recent rhino buster shot or not , to see if maybe that would help prevent or not ?
Since you only have 18 posts, I'll try to be nice. This issue has been going on on this board since the Outbreak started in March. You need to go back and search and read the threads that have been posted and the questions that have been answered in this post, including this one. Also, look up Stillwater Vet Clinic on Facebook. There are HUGE posts on that page about this, including more answered questions.
Horse was vaccinated previously. Precautions were taken, by most everyone, producers, event facilities, people in general, but it wasn't stopped. Vets recommeded that with precautions, people could travel. There is NO vaccine for EHV-1 that has been going around. |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:59 PM
I do know there is NO vaccine for this form of rhino , but just wondering if the horses that got ehv1 ( or what ever this maybe ) had a recent rhino buster shot or not , to see if maybe that would help prevent or not ?
Our horses did get the rhino with their spring vaccines. Can't speak for any of the other positive cases. |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | My daughter is only 3. My mom explained that Mama went to live in heaven. And her first thoughts are the passing of my grandparents. She wants to know if grandpa is going to ride her? Is he going to feed her? Grandpa better tie her up! She then proceeds to tell us that the vet took her in the horse bus (trailer) and he will bring her back when she's better.... Ahhhh the innocence of a child's mind.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-28 2:56 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 2:40 PM Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:29 PM NOT what we wanted to here ! Thank goodness we did not go . Seems there are lots of people not taking this serious , guess they have never had to pay a BIG vet bill or lost a great horse ! It is so hard to watch this go around and know people are thinking it won't happen to them and they are right it iseems to only happen to those that care so deeply for there horses ! We are staying home tell we know it is safe , we love are horses too much to put them in danger !!!! I sure hope you are not implying that we don't love our horse. She is the mare I bought when I was 21 to get back into barrel racing. We travel 20 hours to FL to get her. She was the one we wanted that badly. A few years ago we faced a huge decision with this mare. Tie back surgery or euthanized. We opted for surgery we spent thousands saving this mare. It didn't matter that she was a 4/5D horse and the surgery cost more than the mare. She was the mare I planned on my daughter moving up too. We are dealing with enough guilt within our family. People aren't stepping up because of the negative back lash. We are trying to help in any way we can so we can prevent another death. I was prepared for the negative and I'm really trying to let it not bother me but it is hard.
My heart aches for you & your daughter. I don't have a kid to pass a horse down to, but I know I'd be completely devastated if I lost any one of my horses, even the old gelding who has slowed down a lot this year. I also know how you feel about spending more than the horse is worth in vet bills.....been there, done that, got the t-shirt. (maybe we really should make t-shirts and sell them as an entry fee/vet bill fundraiser on here LOL)
The highlighted is so true. I had 2 vets inform me that the only way I could keep my horses safe was keep them home forever and hang up my barrel racing. I'll choose the fact that my horses and I love running barrels, I vaccinate and keep them healthy, and I'll continue to run. I was very close to Barrels&Babies horses, so close that I did receive an email from Renea. I have been temping and monitoring them but they all are bright eyed and bushy tailed playing in the rain. I pray to God they are all ok and I also pray for B&B that her and her family get through this horrible time with no further losses. |
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Location: Iowa | First of all I have to say I admire Barrels&Babies for coming forward and letting people know more about your experience. I think there are so many of us that have questions about this that just plain are not being answered.
Yes I believe that the vets are TRYING to do the best they can, but after reading your remarks about your local vet not doing much about it, it just makes me more concerned that this is being taken too lightly. At this point I really don't have a dog in this fight from the standpoint of I don't really have a horse to haul right now. But this has changed so many of our plans that it's really frustrating to think that this isn't getting resolved yet. My 11yr old daughter has been planning on doing more with barrels, poles, goats, and roping, and I have had to tell her to just sit tight to see how things blow over with this. It worked okay when the weather was cold and yucky, but now things are getting nice and we are still stuck at home, waiting to see how this all pans out. I had a lot hanging on what happened after the Bonus Race Finals. Honestly I have kinda felt stupid thinking I was blowing this out of proportion because nothing has come up with the ehv-1 since the BRF. Now that this has started up again, it makes me really wonder how good is the advice that we are getting? Also, how many horses have not been tested? I know this sounds bad and I really hate to think the worst, but I just feel like this strain is something that they haven't dealt with before, but some are treating it as though it's the same thing. Clearly IT IS NOT.
I don't think that anyone would've knowingly hauled to the BRF if they're horse showed any signs of distress or illness. But somehow the virus is still spreading.
I feel for those that have lost their horses to this. I have dealt with putting two of my beloved horses down in the coarse of the past year and a half. One was 11 and came down with a rare form of Leptosporosis which caused him to go blind in one eye and with a lot of money we saved partial sight in his other eye. All to lose him less than a year later because it was attacking his kidneys and causing him to go blind in his good eye. The other one was 26 and was suffering from Lymphoma. I understand completely what it is like to lose your beloved horses. In fact my heart still breaks over both my boys. I can't imagine my daughter or my two younger children who adore their horses, going through this.
The Iowa horse is very close to where I live. Right before this all started in MN we got my daughter a new horse right from the thick of this whole thing. Needless to say we were extremely nervous when this all came out. But it's turned out okay. Now I know of several people that live very close to where I do that went to the BRF and have traveled locally to some other things going on. Where does that leave us? STAYING HOME.....but it sure does stink. And trying to get my 11yr old daughter to understand that isn't the easiest thing in the world to do.
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| O we are SO SORRY for you and your daughter ! That just made me cry ! I don't even compete anymore I do this for my daughter ,so I do understand how hard it must be ! And thank you for letting us know about the rhino shot, I was NOT saying anything about anyone not taking precautions , we know lots of very respectable horsemen and woman that do not vaccinate there horses and have very good reasoning for not doing so . I am sorry to discuss a topic that has already been talked about , I just don't have the time to read every post , SORRY for upsetting anyone ! I do know rhino and ehv1 have been around for awhile we just try to keep up on what's new and prevent our horses for getting anythingng we can . Sorry if anyone has taken me wrong , never wanted a problem , it's all about trying to learn what we can about this horrible stuff ! |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | I was in contact with Stillwater almost immediately, before samples were even sent off. I knew the incompetence of our vets here. We travel almost 2 hours for anything lameness related. Our local vets only vaccinate and draws coggins. It was after hours when we noticed symptoms and feared she wouldn't make a trip. The local vet was our only option at the moment. They insisted that she had a slipped disk or head injury. |
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