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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 11:12 AM In other words, don't treat people like crap. I don't like it when folks are treated like crap on this board (or anywhere really) because someone feels their religion gives them a free pass to do so. There is a way to say "I morally do not agree with this" without being hateful- which BTW, is I think what Jesus would have wanted people to do....based on what I've read anyway. Especially since any gay person is not hurting anyone- two consenting adults.
Personally, I just like to see people treat one another with respect- on this board, and in real life as well.
I agree with.
However, it goes both ways. Today if you don't agree with homosexuality you are either a bigot or a homophobe subject to ridicule, boycott and even termination. Why is it that if I disagree with someone I have to hate them of fear them?
America better wake up. Punishment for conscience not action is contrary to natural law that is the root of our Declaration of Independence.
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Location: Midwest | I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition). | |
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Location: North Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:14 PM I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition).
Were you 'here' during Will Sawyer's presence on this board? I swear that individual was the most inconsiderate and disrepectful person that I have ever witnessed. | |
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Location: Midwest | foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:18 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:14 PM I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition). Were you 'here' during Will Sawyer's presence on this board? I swear that individual was the most inconsiderate and disrepectful person that I have ever witnessed.
I think I saw him post once or twice.... was he the one who would just seek out to goad the Christian members here into arguments all the time?
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Location: North Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:22 PM foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:18 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:14 PM I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition). Were you 'here' during Will Sawyer's presence on this board? I swear that individual was the most inconsiderate and disrepectful person that I have ever witnessed. I think I saw him post once or twice.... was he the one who would just seek out to goad the Christian members here into arguments all the time?
Something about an ex-mormon blog is ringing a bell
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Location: Midwest | foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:27 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:22 PM foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:18 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:14 PM I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition). Were you 'here' during Will Sawyer's presence on this board? I swear that individual was the most inconsiderate and disrepectful person that I have ever witnessed. I think I saw him post once or twice.... was he the one who would just seek out to goad the Christian members here into arguments all the time?
Something about an ex-mormon blog is ringing a bell
You are on the right track. Just keep going.
I'm not really sure what you are getting at....
He was gay as well I think- something about being an interior designer? Sort of coming back to me now.
If he was the person I am thinking of, he seemed somewhat unhinged and not at all representative of the people I personally know who happen to be gay.... Most people don't spend all their time dogging people for being a certain religion! LOL | |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:14 PM I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition). Fair enough. I'm with you on treating all humans with dignity and respect....In Life, not just on this board. Again though, that needs to go both ways. Find me just one thread on this subject where the word bigot or homphobe was used.
BTW, your point could have been equally as strong as a secular discussion without the Bible quotes...unless of course it it was just an oportunity to point out Christian hypocracy. Christians aren't the only group that hold the view.
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Location: North Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:32 PM foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:27 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:22 PM foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:18 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:14 PM I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition). Were you 'here' during Will Sawyer's presence on this board? I swear that individual was the most inconsiderate and disrepectful person that I have ever witnessed. I think I saw him post once or twice.... was he the one who would just seek out to goad the Christian members here into arguments all the time?
Something about an ex-mormon blog is ringing a bell You are on the right track. Just keep going. I'm not really sure what you are getting at.... He was gay as well I think- something about being an interior designer? Sort of coming back to me now. If he was the person I am thinking of, he seemed somewhat unhinged and not at all representative of the people I personally know who happen to be gay.... Most people don't spend all their time dogging people for being a certain religion! LOL
My main point in regards to Will Sawyer has to do with courtesy and respect which Will Sawyer displayed virtually none of. Will Sawyer used the lack of courtesy and respect in an attempt to further his own political agenda. Which in this particular case was/is gay rights.
Will's anger, lack of courtesy and all disrespect garnered him as a looneytune individual. He had no concept of any other's opinion than His own. Tolerance and Diversity only go so far and Will Sawyer made an extreme effort to not just push these limits but to break the limits of tolerance and diversity and therefore shove His Way or No Way down others throats.
Now obivously with Will's extended absence, He was not sucessful in inflicting His Will upon everyone else. And I am not attempting to inflict 'My' Will upon anyone either. I am only pointing age old Teachings. | |
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Location: Midwest | TXBO - 2014-05-15 12:36 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:14 PM I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition). Fair enough. I'm with you on treating all humans with dignity and respect....In Life, not just on this board. Again though, that needs to go both ways. Find me just one thread on this subject where the word bigot or homphobe was used.
BTW, your point could have been equally as strong as a secular discussion without the Bible quotes...unless of course it it was just an oportunity to point out Christian hypocracy. Christians aren't the only group that hold the view.
In terms of disrespect, I wasn't talking about you specifically, or Christians in general (So I hope you did not take my comments as such- as the only person here who pizzed me off was the one I originally quoted several pages ago). I have seen nothing but respect for others from you on this board in the past.
I used the bible quotes because said poster asked something along the lines of "well who defines 'Christian attitude', anyway?".... so I figured Christ himself would be an adequate answer. ;)
I have nothing against the Church, even though my personal beliefs may not always match up. Sure some Christians can be hypocrites... but so can any other person on this world, regardless of faith. I certainly have never held being a Christian against anyone (as at one time I was definitely a church-goer for many years, and my best friend is a devout Catholic). I also didn't boycott Chick-fil-a either (hahaha).... Actually I just like having intelligent discussion with folks such as you who may have different views. I find it enlightening.
(Politically I would say I'm libertarian, in case anyone reading this is assuming I am a left winger. lol) | |
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Location: Midwest | foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:45 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:32 PM foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:27 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:22 PM foundation horse - 2014-05-15 12:18 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:14 PM I don't know all the answers to such religious-doctrine-type questions. Like I said, I just personally think that people should be treated with respect, especially when they are showing respect to the beliefs of others. I think the world would be a better place if we all focused more on our own "sins", if you will, instead of of spreading hatred towards others. The whole "treat others as you wish to be treated" deal.
I'm not claiming to be a religious scholar (in any sense of the word lol).... or heck, even a religious person at all. I'm not telling you all what to believe either. Really, the only reason I responded at all on this thread was because I saw a poster who was posting in a way that was extremely disrespectful to other members here, and that is not right (and probably also against the rules of this forum in addition). Were you 'here' during Will Sawyer's presence on this board? I swear that individual was the most inconsiderate and disrepectful person that I have ever witnessed. I think I saw him post once or twice.... was he the one who would just seek out to goad the Christian members here into arguments all the time?
Something about an ex-mormon blog is ringing a bell You are on the right track. Just keep going. I'm not really sure what you are getting at.... He was gay as well I think- something about being an interior designer? Sort of coming back to me now. If he was the person I am thinking of, he seemed somewhat unhinged and not at all representative of the people I personally know who happen to be gay.... Most people don't spend all their time dogging people for being a certain religion! LOL My main point in regards to Will Sawyer has to do with courtesy and respect which Will Sawyer displayed virtually none of. Will Sawyer used the lack of courtesy and respect in an attempt to further his own political agenda. Which in this particular case was/is gay rights.
Will's anger, lack of courtesy and all disrespect garnered him as a looneytune individual. He had no concept of any other's opinion than His own. Tolerance and Diversity only go so far and Will Sawyer made an extreme effort to not just push these limits but to break the limits of tolerance and diversity and therefore shove His Way or No Way down others throats.
Now obivously with Will's extended absence, He was not sucessful in inflicting His Will upon everyone else. And I am not attempting to inflict 'My' Will upon anyone either. I am only pointing age old Teachings.
Well, yeah.... he was kind of a [expletive deleted]
I think most folks on here used to groan when they would see him post....at least from what I remember...
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:47 PM In terms of disrespect, I wasn't talking about you specifically, or Christians in general (So I hope you did not take my comments as such- as the only person here who pizzed me off was the one I originally quoted several pages ago). I have seen nothing but respect for others from you on this board in the past.
I used the bible quotes because said poster asked something along the lines of "well who defines 'Christian attitude', anyway?".... so I figured Christ himself would be an adequate answer. ;)
I have nothing against the Church, even though my personal beliefs may not always match up. Sure some Christians can be hypocrites... but so can any other person on this world, regardless of faith. I certainly have never held being a Christian against anyone (as at one time I was definitely a church-goer for many years, and my best friend is a devout Catholic). I also didn't boycott Chick-fil-a either (hahaha).... Actually I just like having intelligent discussion with folks such as you who may have different views. I find it enlightening.
(Politically I would say I'm libertarian, in case anyone reading this is assuming I am a left winger. lol)
Some of your quotes are some of my favorites. I love them and try to live by them (with many failures).
What's really interesting is that the poster that was rightly reprimanded was just immediately assumed to be Christian. However she never stated or confirmed that. In fact, I would suggest that her response denies it.
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Location: Midwest | TXBO - 2014-05-15 12:59 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 12:47 PM In terms of disrespect, I wasn't talking about you specifically, or Christians in general (So I hope you did not take my comments as such- as the only person here who pizzed me off was the one I originally quoted several pages ago). I have seen nothing but respect for others from you on this board in the past.
I used the bible quotes because said poster asked something along the lines of "well who defines 'Christian attitude', anyway?".... so I figured Christ himself would be an adequate answer. ;)
I have nothing against the Church, even though my personal beliefs may not always match up. Sure some Christians can be hypocrites... but so can any other person on this world, regardless of faith. I certainly have never held being a Christian against anyone (as at one time I was definitely a church-goer for many years, and my best friend is a devout Catholic). I also didn't boycott Chick-fil-a either (hahaha).... Actually I just like having intelligent discussion with folks such as you who may have different views. I find it enlightening.
(Politically I would say I'm libertarian, in case anyone reading this is assuming I am a left winger. lol) Some of your quotes are some of my favorites. I love them and try to live by them (with many failures).
What's really interesting is that the poster that was rightly reprimanded was just immediately assumed to be Christian. However she never stated or confirmed that. In fact, I would suggest that her response denies it.
Interesting... I thought she stated that at one point- perhaps I assumed that based on what others had written (dang ADD)
And I do try to live by those same ideals (from the quotes) as well..... though I probably don't come close. But hey, we are all only human. I think most people do they best they can. Pobody's Nerfect :) | |
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Location: Dubach, LA | GoGaited - 2014-05-12 4:55 PM kdb2qq - 2014-05-12 12:15 PM livexlovexrodeo - 2014-05-12 11:49 AM It shouldn't be a big deal but it is because it's something that will create a "story" since it's a controversial topic. It can be really easy to say that gays/lesbians/bis "ask for it" and that it's "not a big deal they just make it one" but as a girl with a girlfriend AND a person that does not like attention, I don't ask for it. You'll never see me at a protest or gay pride parade lol. But even if I don't ask for it, I still get dirty looks or smart comments. It might not necessarily be the player himself wanting the attention, it's just the way the media is. For example if I were a NFR level rider and everyone knew I had a girlfriend I'm sure it would be talked about to some extent whether I wanted it to be or not. Sometimes if I really think about it, it hurts that I can't tell someone I have a girlfriend without a pin prick of nervousness about how they're going to react. It's fine that some people don't agree with it - we have mutual friends that are devout Christian but they're still nice to us and don't lecture us. And then some people are just jerks about it. I guess it's something that people don't really get if you aren't in that position. I'm pretty sure none of you have ever been scared that you were going to get ridiculed for saying you had a boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband. I'm sure if this guy ends up being a really good football player they'll forget about it to some extent. Kind of like how everyone knows Ellen DeGeneres is a lesbian but it's not really "news" and it's not "why" she's famous. I agree 100%. Sometimes it's not the Michael Sams of the world who are creating the "media frenzy", they just have to live with it. Edited for spelling And it would be a cold day in hell before my employer sent me to a homosexual re-education indoctrination camp to keep my job. Did the nfl ever say a word about all the feces flung at Tebow because he is a Christian? Oh hell, no, white Christian male be the debil!
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Location: Dubach, LA | 3canstorun - 2014-05-13 5:56 PM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 6:27 PM 3canstorun - 2014-05-13 7:12 AM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 1:06 AM fatchance - 2014-05-12 6:14 PM GoGaited, IMHO there are better ways to state your stance on this topic. I don't seek your approval for my stance or how I state it. P/C can go to hades.
Why should GoGaited be censored when everything else is ok?
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | CanCan - 2014-05-15 2:56 PM 3canstorun - 2014-05-13 5:56 PM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 6:27 PM 3canstorun - 2014-05-13 7:12 AM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 1:06 AM fatchance - 2014-05-12 6:14 PM GoGaited, IMHO there are better ways to state your stance on this topic. I don't seek your approval for my stance or how I state it. P/C can go to hades.
As far as people, whether they are gay or straight showing extreme public affection - I don't approve of either. And this applies to my daughter and her husband and my son and his partner.
Maybe GoGaited can learn one thing from this post - treat and talk to people how you would like to be treated and talked to.
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Location: Pacific Northwest | CanCan - 2014-05-15 11:56 AM
3canstorun - 2014-05-13 5:56 PM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 6:27 PM 3canstorun - 2014-05-13 7:12 AM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 1:06 AM fatchance - 2014-05-12 6:14 PM GoGaited, IMHO there are better ways to state your stance on this topic. I don't seek your approval for my stance or how I state it. P/C can go to hades.
Because everyone else is nice about it. "Flaming homosexual" is a derogatory statement. She may as all just say fa**ot, because both phrases are directed at us in the same tone.
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Location: Washington | When I used the word Bigot it was to a person who has had no problem slamming their fist into this topic, there was ZERO tolerance on their response on this thread and Johnny Weirs. IF I decide not to judge anyone because of who they love, that is my choice.
Most here know I do not mix my beliefs and or my politics on this board. It doesn't work out well for me. SO that is all I shall say.
My point on this thread was I found what was made public was a disservice to the young man starting his career in the NFL, the only thing they needed to let people know are his stats.
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Location: Washington | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-15 1:09 PM I used to be addicted to fags back when I lived in England. I went through more than 20 a day.
Didn't know you smoked....
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