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| LMS - 2015-02-04 9:56 PM
I do want to apologize to fair weather that I'm as testy as I am! I'm just about 40 and plumb sick of this! Here's a Point: red raider, ur pics u weigh about 10 pounds lighter than I am now, the gastric sleeve has been on my mind a lot lately. I've always wanted to be thin, for my height 135 is "correct" but at my fittest I weighed 175 and was bullet proof! Fighting weight probably! I'm very concerned about the problems that come from gastric surgery, can I do it? Will it kill me?? Will it work? Any insight into the sleeve I would really appreciate! You are very brave for trying something so many view as controversial!
My SIL lives in Lake Charles and she had it done, it was a day procedure and she has been very successful in her weight loss and to date, a year later, has had no complications. | |
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I know this may not be a thread I'm welcome on...but reading through this made me want to just say a couple of things.
First...Physics are such that a balanced rider is much easier on the horse...whatever the actual weight of said rider. So maybe doing our best to be a balanced rider with good seat and hands is where our focus should lie.
And therein lies part of my problem. I have scoliosis and despite surgery I still have a curvature that makes staying centered/balanced pretty difficult. But I do my best to keep a strong core and ride correct.
I'll just come out and say I'm one of those "Skinny girls". I come by it from genetics...my dad is tall and thin still. But my mother is short and larger...and I'll smack someone that says anything mean to/about her. But you all probably realize that the people that say derogatory things about larger folks...are right there saying crap about us thin girls too. I have spent my life hearing "freckled toothpick...bean pole...anorexic...any number of flat chested comments...and my favorite when I was going through my divorce and lost more weight..."why don't you eat...you look like a cancer patient".
These are words and jokes I bet these same folks would never say to the face of a person that was overweight. Behind their backs...yeah...but these folks felt like they could say these things to my face because skinny people are "lucky"...and can eat whatever they want. Well...that's just crap...and it hurts us too.
Basically what I am trying to say is that mean people are everywhere and they all suck. Do what you can to be healthy. Don't lose sleep over the haters. | |
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Location: Kansas | you're all beautiful the way you are!!!! Never be embarrassed to ride in front of others, let them talk, it just shows what kind of person they are. Embrace who you are because you are beautiful that way :)
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| I agree with TrailGirl, that is probably more about a good, balanced seat than weight. I think that this what the orginal OP may have been saying when she was telling us about the saddle she is designing. Of course what she is doing makes total sense to me. As our bodies change so does our balance point. Look at what struggles the olympic skaters and gymnasts go through when they go through growth spurts and reach puberty. Our bodies have gone through a change and the point has changed and now we need to rediscover where it is now. I don't know if I am making any sense to ya'll but in my head I understand what I am saying, lol.  | |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | No need to apologize! All the discussion validates the need for the blog.
So to recap, it looks like these are some of the basic groups of challenges - - Lack of confidence (riding & other areas)
- Emotional struggles
- Balance adjustments in riding
- Stigmas, stereotypes, preconceptions, judgements.
Any other groups to add to that?
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | To touch on the thyroid issue, it's been a huge deal for two very close friends.
Friend 1 was a model in her youth, always thin. All of a sudden, she gained a lot of weight. It made her feel "top heavy" as she is very tall. She had several falls from what's now my gelding, and I believe it was the adjustment in balance that made the situation worse. She found out her thyroid was not working, and now she has lost weight and feels much better.
Person 2 is not a horse person, but struggled for years with anxiety. Finally, after several tests, they found out her thyroid was not working at all. Once she was put on the correct meds, she lost 80 lbs in 6 months. She looks fabulous. The disease did damage her teeth beyond repair, though, because it took so long to find a medication. She now has dentures and is in her 30s. | |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-02-05 8:46 AM
To touch on the thyroid issue, it's been a huge deal for two very close friends.
Friend 1 was a model in her youth, always thin. All of a sudden, she gained a lot of weight. It made her feel "top heavy" as she is very tall. She had several falls from what's now my gelding, and I believe it was the adjustment in balance that made the situation worse. She found out her thyroid was not working, and now she has lost weight and feels much better.
Person 2 is not a horse person, but struggled for years with anxiety. Finally, after several tests, they found out her thyroid was not working at all. Once she was put on the correct meds, she lost 80 lbs in 6 months. She looks fabulous. The disease did damage her teeth beyond repair, though, because it took so long to find a medication. She now has dentures and is in her 30s.
Would you happen to know what tests to demand the Dr. run? I ask because my doctor gives me the dumbest look when I ask about thyroid issues. My weight has ballooned, my hair thinned out and just am tired all the time. It may not be thyroid at all, it maybe I have suddenly gotten lazy, but I want to change and it's an unhill battle as it is because if I was a cow, you'd say I was a good doer.  | |
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Location: North Dakota | I too would like to know specific tests, because I am the healthiest fat chick I know haha! Absolutely no issues with my blood or hormones(at least that has been tested). Very lucky actually. I have to admit I've always been the "thick" one, never skinny so truly my riding is pretty good, I'm used to what my body is going to do.
Trail girl you are welcome here too, I go back to one of my other statements with this thread that if people would mind their own business, none of this would be necessary :) I may have an opinion, about you or someone else but I'll be darned if I will say it outloud! | |
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Location: Midwest | I am not sure, but I know she sees an endocrinologist. It is a specialist doctor. I think there are two types of tests that measure activity, but honestly I'm not very knowledgable about this type of testing. I do know that friend number two had a rough time being diagnosed and finding a medication that worked.
My lab speciality is genetics, so I'm not an expert about that type of testing.. wish I was of more help. | |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-02-05 9:39 AM
I am not sure, but I know she sees an endocrinologist. It is a specialist doctor. I think there are two types of tests that measure activity, but honestly I'm not very knowledgable about this type of testing. I do know that friend number two had a rough time being diagnosed and finding a medication that worked.
My lab speciality is genetics, so I'm not an expert about that type of testing.. wish I was of more help.
Thank you, you gave enough info so that I at least know where to start. That's more than my doctor did. | |
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| I am one of those "PLUS" sized riders - however each year the plus increases a bit. The last 30 pounds have hurt my balance a lot.
I used to be the really skinny person - that could eat everything under the sun and never gain a pound. Fast forward to 30, getting married and having 2 children. Up my weight about 45 pounds - I was still competitive and looked pretty good at that weight. It seemed that every year another 10 pounds would be added on. Despite rarely eating out and cooking meals from scratch - the weight keeps finding me.
Diets/ Pills have not worked. I went through 9 months with a bariatric doctor and we are going to preform lap band on Monday. as well as removing my gall bladder and fixing a hernia. I hate doctors, but have found I can go forever without eating if I am busy, but mealtimes I over eat. The phrase "only eat until you feel full" doesn't work in my case. I can consume a lot of food at one time. I also have done the portion control and was miserable.
I have been on liquids for almost 2 weeks and I warned my husband to slap me if I am eating his arm in the middle of the night, I have woke up "needing" a meal.
My cravings are always protein - meat, eggs etc. I do not have the typical carb cravings that everyone talks about. I have cardiac and pulmonary problems that are made worse by the extra weight (perhaps even caused).
Waiting to see how things go about 60 days post surgery.
Surgery is not a quick fix - there will be a lot of work involved. Diets and exercise did not work for me - I always gained back what I lost - plus a little more for interest.
I also researched the different surgical options, I want to keep all my stomach as different parts absorb different nutrients. I also watch my grandma suffer- since she had 2/3rds of her stomach removed in the 50's. She has terrible absorption problems - I am sure that they are more selective of where they cut and how much is removed.
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Location: Kentucky | Tmain - 2015-02-05 12:19 PM I am one of those "PLUS" sized riders - however each year the plus increases a bit. The last 30 pounds have hurt my balance a lot. I used to be the really skinny person - that could eat everything under the sun and never gain a pound. Fast forward to 30, getting married and having 2 children. Up my weight about 45 pounds - I was still competitive and looked pretty good at that weight. It seemed that every year another 10 pounds would be added on. Despite rarely eating out and cooking meals from scratch - the weight keeps finding me. Diets/ Pills have not worked. I went through 9 months with a bariatric doctor and we are going to preform lap band on Monday. as well as removing my gall bladder and fixing a hernia. I hate doctors, but have found I can go forever without eating if I am busy, but mealtimes I over eat. The phrase "only eat until you feel full" doesn't work in my case. I can consume a lot of food at one time. I also have done the portion control and was miserable. I have been on liquids for almost 2 weeks and I warned my husband to slap me if I am eating his arm in the middle of the night, I have woke up "needing" a meal. My cravings are always protein - meat, eggs etc. I do not have the typical carb cravings that everyone talks about. I have cardiac and pulmonary problems that are made worse by the extra weight (perhaps even caused). Waiting to see how things go about 60 days post surgery. Surgery is not a quick fix - there will be a lot of work involved. Diets and exercise did not work for me - I always gained back what I lost - plus a little more for interest. I also researched the different surgical options, I want to keep all my stomach as different parts absorb different nutrients. I also watch my grandma suffer- since she had 2/3rds of her stomach removed in the 50's. She has terrible absorption problems - I am sure that they are more selective of where they cut and how much is removed.
Lean meats and eggs are OK. I usually start my day eating two boiled eggs and some greek yogurt.
I don't understand why people feel the need to starve themselves skinny. Your body needs fuel. Load up on veggies and fruits, eat till you are full on those. I eat lots of chicken, turkey, and tuna. Eating healthy doesn't mean starvation. | |
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| So normally... I stay away from this kinda post but I will be one participating in OP experiment.
You will all get to hear a bit about my story... I do agree that sometimes weight is within your control and sometimes it just isnt. I have literally been the same size since since I was 14-15 years old and I am 25. In high school, I was the "star" bball player with a scholarship in my name. And I was this size. I've always been this size, my body knows how to control itself. I have a strong core and good balance because I never had a fluctuation to get used to.
For those who asked if you've ever been made fun of to your face... absolutely. Many times. I started hiding in my truck or trailer to eat my lunch because of a certain group. There are bullies everywhere. Luckily I surrounded myself with some really supportive people who allowed me to be confortable in my own skin.
Sure, do I wish I was thin? Absolutely... do I watch what I eat? absolutely. Do I wonder what my horse could do if I was thin? Sometimes... Do I work out, Yep. but I also know my horse gives his heart to me and if I sold him to a girl 50 pounds lighter, she probably wouldnt do as well.
I actually sold a horse to a local girl, the horse and i didnt mix. He was a free runner, I am a more push style type rider. We closed anywhere from 1D-4D but more 3D/4D because I usually kicked him right past the barrels. I wont a lot of money prizes and whatever else on him but I knew I wasnt the best rider for him. When she got him she posted pics all over fb about him. Told people that he ran mostly 4D but since I was "fat" she would easily be able to run 1D times on him.
needless to say a few of those amazing friends caught wind of the post and defended me... but stuff like that is embarassing. You can have all the confidence in the world... but public humilation hurts and everyone knew that horse. They knew who the "fat" girl was. (sidenote, the girl never pulled a check on him)
To all you out there struggling... lose weight if YOU are uncomfortable or if YOUR health is suffering. If you need to go back to some basics for awhile, do it... but dont let someone take your dreams away. And for those who do make the cruel comments... you know who you are.... remember that sometimes its not as easy as "lose weight if it bothers you."
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | stayceem - 2015-02-05 11:53 AM So normally... I stay away from this kinda post but I will be one participating in OP experiment. You will all get to hear a bit about my story... I do agree that sometimes weight is within your control and sometimes it just isnt. I have literally been the same size since since I was 14-15 years old and I am 25. In high school, I was the "star" bball player with a scholarship in my name. And I was this size. I've always been this size, my body knows how to control itself. I have a strong core and good balance because I never had a fluctuation to get used to. For those who asked if you've ever been made fun of to your face... absolutely. Many times. I started hiding in my truck or trailer to eat my lunch because of a certain group. There are bullies everywhere. Luckily I surrounded myself with some really supportive people who allowed me to be confortable in my own skin. Sure, do I wish I was thin? Absolutely... do I watch what I eat? absolutely. Do I wonder what my horse could do if I was thin? Sometimes... Do I work out, Yep. but I also know my horse gives his heart to me and if I sold him to a girl 50 pounds lighter, she probably wouldnt do as well. I actually sold a horse to a local girl, the horse and i didnt mix. He was a free runner, I am a more push style type rider. We closed anywhere from 1D-4D but more 3D/4D because I usually kicked him right past the barrels. I wont a lot of money prizes and whatever else on him but I knew I wasnt the best rider for him. When she got him she posted pics all over fb about him. Told people that he ran mostly 4D but since I was "fat" she would easily be able to run 1D times on him. needless to say a few of those amazing friends caught wind of the post and defended me... but stuff like that is embarassing. You can have all the confidence in the world... but public humilation hurts and everyone knew that horse. They knew who the "fat" girl was. (sidenote, the girl never pulled a check on him ) To all you out there struggling... lose weight if YOU are uncomfortable or if YOUR health is suffering. If you need to go back to some basics for awhile, do it... but dont let someone take your dreams away. And for those who do make the cruel comments... you know who you are.... remember that sometimes its not as easy as "lose weight if it bothers you."
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Tmain - 2015-02-05 11:19 AM I am one of those "PLUS" sized riders - however each year the plus increases a bit. The last 30 pounds have hurt my balance a lot. I used to be the really skinny person - that could eat everything under the sun and never gain a pound. Fast forward to 30, getting married and having 2 children. Up my weight about 45 pounds - I was still competitive and looked pretty good at that weight. It seemed that every year another 10 pounds would be added on. Despite rarely eating out and cooking meals from scratch - the weight keeps finding me. Diets/ Pills have not worked. I went through 9 months with a bariatric doctor and we are going to preform lap band on Monday. as well as removing my gall bladder and fixing a hernia. I hate doctors, but have found I can go forever without eating if I am busy, but mealtimes I over eat. The phrase "only eat until you feel full" doesn't work in my case. I can consume a lot of food at one time. I also have done the portion control and was miserable. I have been on liquids for almost 2 weeks and I warned my husband to slap me if I am eating his arm in the middle of the night, I have woke up "needing" a meal. My cravings are always protein - meat, eggs etc. I do not have the typical carb cravings that everyone talks about. I have cardiac and pulmonary problems that are made worse by the extra weight (perhaps even caused). Waiting to see how things go about 60 days post surgery. Surgery is not a quick fix - there will be a lot of work involved. Diets and exercise did not work for me - I always gained back what I lost - plus a little more for interest. I also researched the different surgical options, I want to keep all my stomach as different parts absorb different nutrients. I also watch my grandma suffer- since she had 2/3rds of her stomach removed in the 50's. She has terrible absorption problems - I am sure that they are more selective of where they cut and how much is removed.
Keep us all updated on your progress. I hope this works for you and gets you where you want to be and need to be. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | willrodeo4food - 2015-02-04 6:46 PM Of course it's going to get testy Cavvy. You should know by now there is always going to be someone like banjomia that is going to judge overweight people and tell them they just haven't tried hard enough to lose their extra poundage. It's just not often you see someone like LMS who has had enough & tells them to kiss hers. I'm with LMS on this one, I know why I'm overweight, I struggle with it every single day. I don't anyone to tell me I need to be honest with myself or judge me because they don't think I'm being fair to my horses.
I saw you in person...You are anything but fat..LOL | |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-02-05 1:17 PM
willrodeo4food - 2015-02-04 6:46 PM Of course it's going to get testy Cavvy. You should know by now there is always going to be someone like banjomia that is going to judge overweight people and tell them they just haven't tried hard enough to lose their extra poundage. It's just not often you see someone like LMS who has had enough & tells them to kiss hers. I'm with LMS on this one, I know why I'm overweight, I struggle with it every single day. I don't anyone to tell me I need to be honest with myself or judge me because they don't think I'm being fair to my horses.
Hmmmm....I'm not sure there was anything in my post that "judged" overweight people...not even once. I simply stated to be the healthiest version of yourself you can be and that is different for everyone. Furthermore its a little extreme to say that to be the best version of yourself you have to quit your job and exercise 5 hours a day....that's simply borderline childish right there. Your ****ed off because I made the comment that we should all try to be the healthiest version of ourselves we can be and take some time to exercise and eat right? Wow.....not sure how any of that was putting anyone down. Perhaps you should quit trying to read in between the lines.... | |
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| LMS - 2015-02-04 4:20 PM
banjomia - 2015-02-04 4:11 PM Murphy - 2015-02-04 2:21 PM Fairweather - 2015-02-04 2:43 PM Murphy - 2015-02-04 1:36 PM Fairweather - 2015-02-04 2:29 PM Murphy - 2015-02-04 1:23 PM memory - 2015-02-03 11:19 PM What are the weights of some of the top guys in the barrel racing industry? I think we kick ourselves around too much. This is what we are today and who knows what tomorrow brings. Ride and enjoy it. I think men and women carry their weight differently. 200 pounds for a fit man is different than a woman who is out of shape and 200 pounds. They do carry their weight differently, however I have seen 200 pound women that can work just as hard and long as a fit man in the hay field. I'm not 200 pounds but I'm short and plus size and 46 - considered "out of shape" as you mentioned but yet I have out worked teenagers and 20 somethings considered to be fit in our hay fields. I work in an office - it's not like I'm work hardened either.
I think people who have a solid core and are in shape can utilize balance and weight better. That's all. I couldn't agree more....being "fit" is a lot more than being able to go out in a field and outwork a teenager. Being fit requires your heart and lungs and your entire body to be fit. There are a lot of different sized people in this world. None of us have the same frame or genetics. What you you can do is be the best and most fit version of yourself. Unfortunately, if we are honest with ourselves....that is not happening. Most people eat like crap and don't take the time to exercise. And yes, we do owe it to our equine partners to take care of ourselves so we can take care of them....and that includes in the saddle. Because I'm overweight I don't love my horse?? SHEESH HE is an animal, he exists because I've bought him, taken care of him fed him, loved him....don't think I owe him too much......Trust me, I'm as honest as the day is long, some days the only thing that keeps my sanity is the fact that I have to walk down and feed my horses and steers-and guess what? It's probably the only real exercise I get in a day!!! Bottom line? If people would mind their own business and keep their opinions to themselves we wouldn't even need a thread like this.
Im pretty sure if you re-read my message, no where in there does it say "overweight people don't love their horses".......you are overly defensive and there is no reason to be as not one thing in my post put anyone down. I do believe wholeheartedly that we owe A LOT to our horses AND we owe it to ourselves and our families to take care of ourselves. Period. Doesn't mean most of us will ever be 125 lbs. I know I won't be...but I try hard to eat right and I do take time to exercise as it is a priority for me as it should be for everyone. I'm considered overweight as well....but I have a big frame and I know I will never be that super skinny person and I am o.k. with it because I know I am healthy. That's all I was saying. | |
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| stayceem - 2015-02-05 11:53 AM So normally... I stay away from this kinda post but I will be one participating in OP experiment. You will all get to hear a bit about my story... I do agree that sometimes weight is within your control and sometimes it just isnt. I have literally been the same size since since I was 14-15 years old and I am 25. In high school, I was the "star" bball player with a scholarship in my name. And I was this size. I've always been this size, my body knows how to control itself. I have a strong core and good balance because I never had a fluctuation to get used to. For those who asked if you've ever been made fun of to your face... absolutely. Many times. I started hiding in my truck or trailer to eat my lunch because of a certain group. There are bullies everywhere. Luckily I surrounded myself with some really supportive people who allowed me to be confortable in my own skin. Sure, do I wish I was thin? Absolutely... do I watch what I eat? absolutely. Do I wonder what my horse could do if I was thin? Sometimes... Do I work out, Yep. but I also know my horse gives his heart to me and if I sold him to a girl 50 pounds lighter, she probably wouldnt do as well. I actually sold a horse to a local girl, the horse and i didnt mix. He was a free runner, I am a more push style type rider. We closed anywhere from 1D-4D but more 3D/4D because I usually kicked him right past the barrels. I wont a lot of money prizes and whatever else on him but I knew I wasnt the best rider for him. When she got him she posted pics all over fb about him. Told people that he ran mostly 4D but since I was "fat" she would easily be able to run 1D times on him. needless to say a few of those amazing friends caught wind of the post and defended me... but stuff like that is embarassing. You can have all the confidence in the world... but public humilation hurts and everyone knew that horse. They knew who the "fat" girl was. (sidenote, the girl never pulled a check on him ) To all you out there struggling... lose weight if YOU are uncomfortable or if YOUR health is suffering. If you need to go back to some basics for awhile, do it... but dont let someone take your dreams away. And for those who do make the cruel comments... you know who you are.... remember that sometimes its not as easy as "lose weight if it bothers you."
I swear we could be the same person based on this story .... especially the basketball and selling a horse story ...
Fast forward - I'm in my 30's. Both sides of my family have heart health issues. My mother this past summer had some major problems. 2 years ago, my now fiance and I bought a gym membership together and have encouraged and helped eachother. I have dropped and kept off 25 pounds. The deciding factor to change my lifestyle came when my mom made me promise to take better care of myself so that I "would not turn into her". Side effects include the improvement of my riding, the imporved sleep I get, and the overall lowered stress in my life.
Health and fitness is a journey for each on their own. No one should be judging someone else. Never allow someone to belittle you - you are worth so much more. Surrounding yourself with positive people, positive mentors, and positive realities will only help you on whatever journey you choose - health, wellness, fitness, self confidence, or all the above. | |
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| Banjomia, I got what you were saying. I'm 185 and 5 foot 4. There, i said it. I have never told anyone how much I weigh, it's scary. I am a fat girl and I'm tired of it. You have reminded me that a healthy me is not what I am and so today I feel motivated to eat a little smarter and move a little more because I am asking my horse to do so today. Will I do this everyday? Probably not, but I AM going to try do it everyday that I ask my horse to. I want to be healthy not skinny, fit not flabby. | |
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