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Location: OH. IO | I just spoke with a representative from Kalmbach feeds she assured me that they just built a new facility where they make their horse feed totally separate. She may come on here and register and explain it all but again she assured me there horse feed is made in a brand new facility where no cattle feed comes in contact with any equine feed. She stated that she had several calls recently and she's happy to know why the calls are coming in. Kalmbach feed is the manufacturer of tribute feeds. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | I posted this the first of this year - someone by the name of Jason Hartley Quality Assurance with ADM Alliance Nutrition responded on the last page. I would encourage you to read through all the posts. This incident happend in SC in Dec. 2014. Ths last account I had was the feed is still on the shelves in that area. The thing I can't help but wonder is how many horses die of this each year. Think of all the people that own 1 horse - it colics or gets sick - no large animal vet nearby - so treatment is attempted - but if the cause was bad feed that may not be something that is even considered unless you have several horses and more than one show signs. Very sad for the owners who have lost hoeses this way.
Here's the earlier thread about bad feed.
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=458059&start=41&posts=52
Most recent update I could find on SC case
http://www.islandpacket.com/2015/01/02/3516858/feed-company-hasnt-pulled-food.html
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Location: Beggs, OK | When Monensin is present in trace amounts it might only affect one horse out of a whole herd in a significant way. Depending on their health, sensitivity, and exposure you will have varying symptoms that may not even lead you to think that there's an issue with your feed.
This is a much more serious issue than what people realize. Think about how many colics every year are left unexplained or blamed on the weather.... |
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| My local feed store just started carrying blue bonnet. I'm so happy! I'm returning the 6 bags of triple crown sr I bought last week. Not worth the risk |
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Location: Florida.. | this is jasons post...I’m Jason Hartley and I am responsible for Quality Assurance at ADM Alliance Nutrition. We take this matter very seriously and are working with authorities to investigate these horses’ deaths. We’re not aware that authorities have made any determination as to what caused the deaths, and based on our investigation to date, we have not found any evidence that our horse feed caused or contributed to these deaths. The single sample of our horse feed tested for our customer at Michigan State University was negative for ionophores (monensin) at the detection limits for the test. We have sent additional samples for testing and will share information as soon as it’s available. If you have questions about your ADM feed, please contact us at [email protected].Jason Hartley has told one of our bbs that feed is safe YET the exact lot number and feed that is testing ""positive """is being sold.. exact bags.. exact lot number. Royal Palm has doen every step correctly for protocal for this and ADM has not recalled and or removed feed that is testing positive and making horses ill.. I loved ADM, I recommended them to everyone so this is very unsettling.
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Location: Beggs, OK | The thing about the level of exposure that we are talking about is what they call "hot spots". Trace amounts of Monensin find their way into a batch of feed due to poor cleaning/sequencing processes. These trace amounts will accumulate in "hot spots" in the batch/bag and will not show in every sample. Some horses will get more, some will get less. Some horses will have been chronically exposed to it at a low level and won't show symptoms at all.
The fact that they are claiming that a trace amount is NOT toxic to a horse is absurd, negligent, and CRIMINAL. |
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| All the more reason to see and know what your feeding. Oats and alfalfa for my crew! |
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| want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 8:54 AM
My local feed store just started carrying blue bonnet. I'm so happy! I'm returning the 6 bags of triple crown sr I bought last week. Not worth the risk
WHy would you return the Triple crown? It has an outstanding reputation and never a single case of this sort in its history. Its kind of like saying your not flying any airlines anymore because ____________ airline has had 3 crashes. SOme companies are responsible and take care of business, others don't.
This is how mass hysteria gets started.
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-02-04 11:46 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 8:54 AM
My local feed store just started carrying blue bonnet. I'm so happy! I'm returning the 6 bags of triple crown sr I bought last week. Not worth the risk
WHy would you return the Triple crown? It has an outstanding reputation and never a single case of this sort in its history. Its kind of like saying your not flying any airlines anymore because ____________ airline has had 3 crashes. SOme companies are responsible and take care of business, others don't.
This is how mass hysteria gets started.
Because I was not assured by the company that where my tc is being manufactured is ionophore-FREE. Was given a runaround answer. If I have a feed available to me that is guaranteed to be safe.. I'm going that route. My horses.. my choice. |
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Location: Kentucky | want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 12:51 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-02-04 11:46 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 8:54 AM
My local feed store just started carrying blue bonnet. I'm so happy! I'm returning the 6 bags of triple crown sr I bought last week. Not worth the risk
WHy would you return the Triple crown? It has an outstanding reputation and never a single case of this sort in its history. Its kind of like saying your not flying any airlines anymore because ____________ airline has had 3 crashes. SOme companies are responsible and take care of business, others don't.
This is how mass hysteria gets started.
Because I was not assured by the company that where my tc is being manufactured is ionophore-FREE. Was given a runaround answer. If I have a feed available to me that is guaranteed to be safe.. I'm going that route. My horses.. my choice.
Where are you located? |
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Location: East Texas | Murphy - 2015-02-04 11:57 AM want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 12:51 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-02-04 11:46 AM want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 8:54 AM My local feed store just started carrying blue bonnet. I'm so happy! I'm returning the 6 bags of triple crown sr I bought last week. Not worth the risk WHy would you return the Triple crown? It has an outstanding reputation and never a single case of this sort in its history. Its kind of like saying your not flying any airlines anymore because ____________ airline has had 3 crashes. SOme companies are responsible and take care of business, others don't. This is how mass hysteria gets started. Because I was not assured by the company that where my tc is being manufactured is ionophore-FREE. Was given a runaround answer. If I have a feed available to me that is guaranteed to be safe.. I'm going that route. My horses.. my choice. Where are you located?
I will be sending off my triple crown for a sample this week, due to the only horse I had on it becoming very sick withinn two feedings. I do not know if it was the feed or not, but the fact he almost died and that was the only thing that changed is enough for me not to want to feed it until i have it tested. |
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Location: Texas | Run n on faith - 2015-02-04 12:01 PM Murphy - 2015-02-04 11:57 AM want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 12:51 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-02-04 11:46 AM want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 8:54 AM My local feed store just started carrying blue bonnet. I'm so happy! I'm returning the 6 bags of triple crown sr I bought last week. Not worth the risk WHy would you return the Triple crown? It has an outstanding reputation and never a single case of this sort in its history. Its kind of like saying your not flying any airlines anymore because ____________ airline has had 3 crashes. SOme companies are responsible and take care of business, others don't. This is how mass hysteria gets started. Because I was not assured by the company that where my tc is being manufactured is ionophore-FREE. Was given a runaround answer. If I have a feed available to me that is guaranteed to be safe.. I'm going that route. My horses.. my choice. Where are you located?
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| Murphy - 2015-02-04 11:57 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 12:51 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-02-04 11:46 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 8:54 AM
My local feed store just started carrying blue bonnet. I'm so happy! I'm returning the 6 bags of triple crown sr I bought last week. Not worth the risk
WHy would you return the Triple crown? It has an outstanding reputation and never a single case of this sort in its history. Its kind of like saying your not flying any airlines anymore because ____________ airline has had 3 crashes. SOme companies are responsible and take care of business, others don't.
This is how mass hysteria gets started.
Because I was not assured by the company that where my tc is being manufactured is ionophore-FREE. Was given a runaround answer. If I have a feed available to me that is guaranteed to be safe.. I'm going that route. My horses.. my choice.
Where are you located?
I'm located in NM. I buy mine from two different areas in Texas tho. Just depends on where I'm at at the time I'm picking up feed. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Anyone know anything about Ametza Bermuda Hay Pellets sold in N.Texas?
Also, Will these toxins harm other animals? For example: I feed my rabbits Purina rabbit chow pellets... Are they made in the same mill as the cattle feed? If so, are they contaminted? Will it hurt animals such as meat rabbits to ingest the toxin?
As far as that goes, is this a "safe" toxin to ingest for humans? For example: If we feed our cattle a feed that has the toxins in it and butcher them for our own consumption, could the toxins make us sick as consumers?
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Location: Mi | jake16 - 2015-02-04 11:05 AM I just spoke with a representative from Kalmbach feeds she assured me that they just built a new facility where they make their horse feed totally separate. She may come on here and register and explain it all but again she assured me there horse feed is made in a brand new facility where no cattle feed comes in contact with any equine feed. She stated that she had several calls recently and she's happy to know why the calls are coming in. Kalmbach feed is the manufacturer of tribute feeds.
You are absolutely right! I'm a dealer for Kalmbach Feeds which manufacturer Tribute Feeds and their new facility is state of the art, and ONLY horse feed is made in it, which allows NO chance of contamination.
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| I'm aware of triple crowns stellar reputation, that's what made me want to start feeding it in the first place.. ADM had a stellar rep as well. ... had... I'm not thrilled with finding whole corn nuggets in my ts sr and the bags have been inconsistent. . One will be very VERY moist and the next overly dry and crumbly. |
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Location: Kentucky | want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 1:19 PM I'm aware of triple crowns stellar reputation, that's what made me want to start feeding it in the first place.. ADM had a stellar rep as well. ... had... I'm not thrilled with finding whole corn nuggets in my ts sr and the bags have been inconsistent. . One will be very VERY moist and the next overly dry and crumbly.
It's so strange that different mills can garner different results.
I am in KY and I've never had a bad bag of TC and I've been feeding for over 5 years. The only time I had a bad bag was when it was dry as can be. I told the TC rep and they called my feed store and instructed them to rotate the bags. Never had a problem since. |
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Location: OH. IO | Ahmac - 2015-02-04 1:17 PM
jake16 - 2015-02-04 11:05 AM I just spoke with a representative from Kalmbach feeds she assured me that they just built a new facility where they make their horse feed totally separate. She may come on here and register and explain it all but again she assured me there horse feed is made in a brand new facility where no cattle feed comes in contact with any equine feed. She stated that she had several calls recently and she's happy to know why the calls are coming in. Kalmbach feed is the manufacturer of tribute feeds. You are absolutely right! I'm a dealer for Kalmbach Feeds which manufacturer Tribute Feeds and their new facility is state of the art, and ONLY horse feed is made in it, which allows NO chance of contamination.
THANK YOU!!!! I LOVE OUR FEED.Im so happy about this. |
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Location: Driving, Grooming, or Saddling for a Kid! | Does anyone know about Big V feeds out of oklahoma? |
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Location: Here | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-04 11:08 AM this is jasons post...I’m Jason Hartley and I am responsible for Quality Assurance at ADM Alliance Nutrition. We take this matter very seriously and are working with authorities to investigate these horses’ deaths. We’re not aware that authorities have made any determination as to what caused the deaths, and based on our investigation to date, we have not found any evidence that our horse feed caused or contributed to these deaths. The single sample of our horse feed tested for our customer at Michigan State University was negative for ionophores (monensin ) at the detection limits for the test. We have sent additional samples for testing and will share information as soon as it’s available. If you have questions about your ADM feed, please contact us at [email protected]. Jason Hartley has told one of our bbs that feed is safe YET the exact lot number and feed that is testing ""positive """is being sold.. exact bags.. exact lot number. Royal Palm has doen every step correctly for protocal for this and ADM has not recalled and or removed feed that is testing positive and making horses ill.. I loved ADM, I recommended them to everyone so this is very unsettling.
negative for ionophores (monensin) at the detection limits for the test
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