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| She's improved a bunch... it's not so much that she's heavy handed, she just moves her hands a lot and doesn't use direct rein, she's trying to neck rein him and he's not quite there yet. The horse is so soft in the face unlike her other horse. I just have him in a regular d ring snaffle. She's also starting to recognize her leads... he's partial to the left lead, I'm wanting her to learn to feel which lead he's on. The trainer said he knows both leads but she's having trouble getting the right lead. Hopefully Saturday he can help her with that because I'm not sure how he cued him. |
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Location: Arkansas | want2chase3 - 2017-05-07 10:52 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2017-05-06 9:49 PM
want2chase3 - 2017-05-06 8:54 AM
He looks amazing too!
Wow!!! I am so glad for you and her and him. He looks great! Best of luck
Thank you! We are super excited! Our trainer asked to have first right to purchase if we decided to ever sell. I was going to switch him to a different feed when I brought him home, but seeing how good he looks on his current feed I'm sticking with it, in fact, I'm putting the rest of my crew on the same! He maintained beautifully on it and he was ridden/worked 6 days a week.
Didn't that give you "yippy" bumps to know the trainer thinks that much of him?!! I just had a feeling when you started this thread that it was gonna work out for y'all  |
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| What happened today, was what I was afraid of happening all along... I understand there are "off" days or just straight up bad days... today was definitely BOTH of those.. it's shaken her confidence and she's too frustrated, he wasn't getting what she was asking of him... course her cues were all over the place and I tried to help her and she took it wrong and got beyond aggrivated with him... I wasn't afraid of this colt doing her wrong, I was afraid of her doing him wrong .. I finally asked her to just stop ... and just go trot around the barrels .. not the pattern but just give him something else to do besides lope circles in the pasture ... next thing I know she's back at the barn taking his sasdle off saying "she's done" . |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 7:41 PM What happened today, was what I was afraid of happening all along... I understand there are "off" days or just straight up bad days... today was definitely BOTH of those.. it's shaken her confidence and she's too frustrated, he wasn't getting what she was asking of him... course her cues were all over the place and I tried to help her and she took it wrong and got beyond aggrivated with him... I wasn't afraid of this colt doing her wrong, I was afraid of her doing him wrong .. I finally asked her to just stop ... and just go trot around the barrels .. not the pattern but just give him something else to do besides lope circles in the pasture ... next thing I know she's back at the barn taking his sasdle off saying "she's done" .
Thats to bad shes feeling that way, its just so hard having a green young horse and a green young rider, they dont mix most of the time I've been around them.. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-10 7:54 PM
want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 7:41 PM What happened today, was what I was afraid of happening all along... I understand there are "off" days or just straight up bad days... today was definitely BOTH of those.. it's shaken her confidence and she's too frustrated, he wasn't getting what she was asking of him... course her cues were all over the place and I tried to help her and she took it wrong and got beyond aggrivated with him... I wasn't afraid of this colt doing her wrong, I was afraid of her doing him wrong .. I finally asked her to just stop ... and just go trot around the barrels .. not the pattern but just give him something else to do besides lope circles in the pasture ... next thing I know she's back at the barn taking his sasdle off saying "she's done" .
Thats to bad shes feeling that way, its just so hard having a green young horse and a green young rider, they dont mix most of the time I've been around them..
Yes I knew this.. like I said I would have never bought this colt for her , but he was given to her... hes very tolerant but I could tell he was getting frustrated too.. head shaking and just stopping. For a colt that just turned 3, he put up with a lot today. |
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Location: W. Pa. | The best thing you could do is send him back to trainer for another 60 days and let her go take some lessons on him during his time there and after you bring him back home.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 8:20 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-10 7:54 PM want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 7:41 PM What happened today, was what I was afraid of happening all along... I understand there are "off" days or just straight up bad days... today was definitely BOTH of those.. it's shaken her confidence and she's too frustrated, he wasn't getting what she was asking of him... course her cues were all over the place and I tried to help her and she took it wrong and got beyond aggrivated with him... I wasn't afraid of this colt doing her wrong, I was afraid of her doing him wrong .. I finally asked her to just stop ... and just go trot around the barrels .. not the pattern but just give him something else to do besides lope circles in the pasture ... next thing I know she's back at the barn taking his sasdle off saying "she's done" . Thats to bad shes feeling that way, its just so hard having a green young horse and a green young rider, they dont mix most of the time I've been around them.. Yes I knew this.. like I said I would have never bought this colt for her , but he was given to her... hes very tolerant but I could tell he was getting frustrated too.. head shaking and just stopping. For a colt that just turned 3, he put up with a lot today.
He sounds like hes got a really good mind, I hope that this will all work out for the both of them, I hate hearing that she thinks shes done with him, hope that she will sleep on this and have a different look on this tomorrow, tomorrow is a new day and I bet this is a very forgiving colt and they can start fresh with the trainer's help helping her in person if shes willing. |
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Location: Arkansas | Oh no, I was so excited for them. Please come back and keep us updated on the two of them. Like Roxie said, hopefully after she sleeps on it, she can come back with a new perspective. |
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| Two Boots - 2017-05-10 9:32 PM
The best thing you could do is send him back to trainer for another 60 days and let her go take some lessons on him during his time there and after you bring him back home.
We just got him back from being there for 3 months. I can't really swing another round of that, plus lessons, plus she needs a new saddle PLUS, we are looking to buy my older daughter a different horse because the one we were hoping to work is permanently crippled. It's a rough situation for sure! Hopefully she will have a new outlook today and we can have a "do-over" |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-10 10:44 PM
want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 8:20 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-10 7:54 PM want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 7:41 PM What happened today, was what I was afraid of happening all along... I understand there are "off" days or just straight up bad days... today was definitely BOTH of those.. it's shaken her confidence and she's too frustrated, he wasn't getting what she was asking of him... course her cues were all over the place and I tried to help her and she took it wrong and got beyond aggrivated with him... I wasn't afraid of this colt doing her wrong, I was afraid of her doing him wrong .. I finally asked her to just stop ... and just go trot around the barrels .. not the pattern but just give him something else to do besides lope circles in the pasture ... next thing I know she's back at the barn taking his sasdle off saying "she's done" . Thats to bad shes feeling that way, its just so hard having a green young horse and a green young rider, they dont mix most of the time I've been around them.. Yes I knew this.. like I said I would have never bought this colt for her , but he was given to her... hes very tolerant but I could tell he was getting frustrated too.. head shaking and just stopping. For a colt that just turned 3, he put up with a lot today.
He has a terrific mind! But that can only last so long IMO... when she gets frustrated, she starts getting "snatchy" hands and starts kicking with both legs.. super confusing for him. I have a bosal somewhere I might put on him the trainer said he was riding him around the last week with just a rope around his neck. I don't want him getting hard mouthed. I came in from the barn and told my husband I still wasn't convinced we shouldn't sell him and get her something "finished" that she can learn on... both her and him trying to learn together isn't ideal or as glamorous as it sounds! It'll end up a frustrated jockey and a sour colt! |
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Location: Arkansas | want2chase3 - 2017-05-11 8:56 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-10 10:44 PM
want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 8:20 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-10 7:54 PM want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 7:41 PM What happened today, was what I was afraid of happening all along... I understand there are "off" days or just straight up bad days... today was definitely BOTH of those.. it's shaken her confidence and she's too frustrated, he wasn't getting what she was asking of him... course her cues were all over the place and I tried to help her and she took it wrong and got beyond aggrivated with him... I wasn't afraid of this colt doing her wrong, I was afraid of her doing him wrong .. I finally asked her to just stop ... and just go trot around the barrels .. not the pattern but just give him something else to do besides lope circles in the pasture ... next thing I know she's back at the barn taking his sasdle off saying "she's done" . Thats to bad shes feeling that way, its just so hard having a green young horse and a green young rider, they dont mix most of the time I've been around them.. Yes I knew this.. like I said I would have never bought this colt for her , but he was given to her... hes very tolerant but I could tell he was getting frustrated too.. head shaking and just stopping. For a colt that just turned 3, he put up with a lot today.
He has a terrific mind! But that can only last so long IMO... when she gets frustrated, she starts getting "snatchy" hands and starts kicking with both legs.. super confusing for him. I have a bosal somewhere I might put on him the trainer said he was riding him around the last week with just a rope around his neck. I don't want him getting hard mouthed. I came in from the barn and told my husband I still wasn't convinced we shouldn't sell him and get her something "finished" that she can learn on... both her and him trying to learn together isn't ideal or as glamorous as it sounds! It'll end up a frustrated jockey and a sour colt!
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| Boy this sure has been a roller coaster of a ride lol! Something "clicked" and she's riding him phenomenally! No more busy hands and starfish kicking... everything is smooth, straight and relaxed. We never got to the lesson, he had to cancel last week. I'm proud of her!
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| want2chase3 - 2017-05-10 7:41 PM
What happened today, was what I was afraid of happening all along... I understand there are "off" days or just straight up bad days... today was definitely BOTH of those.. it's shaken her confidence and she's too frustrated, he wasn't getting what she was asking of him... course her cues were all over the place and I tried to help her and she took it wrong and got beyond aggrivated with him... I wasn't afraid of this colt doing her wrong, I was afraid of her doing him wrong .. I finally asked her to just stop ... and just go trot around the barrels .. not the pattern but just give him something else to do besides lope circles in the pasture ... next thing I know she's back at the barn taking his sasdle off saying "she's done" .
Actually, I commend her for knowing it was time to get off him for the day or even one or two days. I have done that in the past - just got off, cooled me and the horse out and given us both up to a week off. In that week I just tied him up and brushed and loved on him, then fed and put him up. When I got back on, he and I were doing exactly as I had wanted us to do in the first place. I am glad to read that all went well the next day. Again, I think she did a really smart and mature thing by getting off him before it got out of hand. |
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Location: Arkansas | want2chase3 - 2017-05-15 5:16 PM
Boy this sure has been a roller coaster of a ride lol! Something "clicked" and she's riding him phenomenally! No more busy hands and starfish kicking... everything is smooth, straight and relaxed. We never got to the lesson, he had to cancel last week. I'm proud of her!
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | You have done good. She is growing up. She did the right thing by resting a bit and thinking about everything she has done so far. Keep videoing taping her and let her watching herself. It is the best training aid that a young person can have. She is learning from herself. We as parents can only guide them. She will learn it takes a lot of wore out horse shoes to get where they will be truly one. Remember to tell her that every NFR qualifier started out just like her. |
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| Back in a rough spot... the riding and "the want to" have significantly slowed down since school has let out. Plus she decided to go away with my mother for almost 2 weeks so the horse just sat. Surprisingly he was really good when she finally got back on him... meaning no funny business.. just rode off fine. I did a test to see if I didn't tell her to ride if she would take it upon herself to do it... 3 days went by and I told her I'm going out to ride before it gets too hot, so she knew that's what I was doing... she didn't ride. Yes, I know it's hot but I ride my horse daily before noon and it's not bad! I started getting onto her about riding him, explaining AGAIN , he needs as much as he can get... so she started up again... I watched her the other day, 2 circles to the left at a trot 2 to the right and 1 circle loping to the left and she started heading back to the barn... I told her that's not enough! So she finally loped him to the right and actually got the right lead FINALLY!
Today she had a friend over, but I text her from the barn and told her she needed to come ride her colt. She came out and rode him a few minutes and started complaining about him doing this and that... appears the horse has gotten a tad barn sour... I got on him... yep, he's barn sour... but you can ride him thru it then he's fine... we started just trotting the barrels just making nice circles no particular order, no pressure... my kid just started walking back to the house and I hollered at her to come watch!!! I knew the horse was green and knows very little but honestly he can be a bit of a handful, he's very testy. .. once he knew I wasn't gonna let him put his head up in the air and try and go back to the barn, he was alright but he will constantly test...
I choose not to ride young horses because I had a horrible AWFUL experience a few years ago that crushed my confidence.. I won't be riding him again. I can see he's picked up a few bad habits already. My daughter is more concerned with friends, snap chat, cheer leading and volley ball these days I feel. I've told her we should still be considering other options.. if she wants to do this barrel stuff we can find an older experienced horse. I've bought her a bunch of books, videos and I encourage her to use trainingbarrelhorses.com on my laptop. She hasn't cracked a book. Sigh.... you know, the sad part is, only after a few circles on those barrels he totally got it. I'm not a horse trainer by any means and I know more about roping than I do barrels but I prefer nice middle aged finished geldings that I can kinda mold my way!
Sorry for the novel I'm just at a loss... I don't want to see this horse waste away in the pasture and develop more bad habits! |
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Location: OH. IO | I would now contact the trainer and see if he wants to futurity on him or buy him.Youve given plenty of opportunities and young colts need stability and need to be consistent. If this was me in this situation I would be done and he would be gone. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | I'm not really sure what your at a loss about.
Green horse and Green rider don't mix, she has shown you now that she really doesn't have the desire to carry with him.
if you don't want to waste him, sell him and move on. You can't make her want to do it. |
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Location: OH. IO | Also...I would NOT buy her another horse.I would load and go with out her and enjoy MY summer! |
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