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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-10 12:57 PM With all the illegal immigrants flooding our country and here in South Texas its a really big problem, why WOULD YOU NOT want to protect your children from dieases? they are bringing measles, tuberculosis, rabies, hepatitis A, influenze, chickenpox and many more with them and trying to enroll their children in our schools, now why would you not want to protect your own children? This just makes no since to me, reading things posted on FB about how harmful vaccines are is just crazy..
Rabies? They are bringing rabies with them? I'm all for vaccinations but I'm curious as to how immigrants are bringing rabies? | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | AnotherRound - 2018-10-13 2:24 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-10 12:57 PM With all the illegal immigrants flooding our country and here in South Texas its a really big problem, why WOULD YOU NOT want to protect your children from dieases? they are bringing measles, tuberculosis, rabies, hepatitis A, influenze, chickenpox and many more with them and trying to enroll their children in our schools, now why would you not want to protect your own children? This just makes no since to me, reading things posted on FB about how harmful vaccines are is just crazy..
Rabies? They are bringing rabies with them? I'm all for vaccinations but I'm curious as to how immigrants are bringing rabies?
I know right, I thought the same thing when I heard they can bring rabies across untill a friend of mine that is Border Patrol, he and his partners busted a group coming across the river in Rio Grande City, one of the people I cant remember if male or female was really sick found out it was rabies, that person did die later and the rest of the group and the Border Patrol that caught them had to go threw a series of shots was not a good thing to happen but thank god they were caught, because theres no telling how many more would have come into contact with this person once they crossed, but dont know about the mexico side. This happen many years ago. Thats way you see these men handling the illegals with rubber gloves on, the illegals carry so many different diseases with them. | |
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| cheryl makofka - 2018-10-13 2:15 PM
I have to ask the people who delay vaccines or choose not to vaccinate your kids. Do you vaccinate your animals?
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| firewaterfuelsme - 2018-10-12 3:00 PM get your pediatrician to email you a copy of each vac ingedients. do your own search of ingredient then you will have confidence that you are making the right choice for your kids. if you find something concerning talk to their dr.
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| “It can no longer be denied that vaccines cause Autism. They do. Vaccines CAN and do cause Autism.
On October 4, warrior activists from The Canary Party met with President Trump in Minnesota and discussed the epidemic we have of children with Autism. The science shows we have an epidemic of Autism, it is UNDENIABLE. President Trump was given two books: “Denial” by Mark Blaxill and “How to End the Autism Epidemic” by Jb Handley. Both books were accepted and their conversation was very productive.
This week, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sent out over 7,300 copies of the book “How to End the Autism Epidemic” by Jb Handley to EVERY elected official in the country as a part of his non-profit efforts with Children’s Health Defense to save our children from chronic and debilitating life long conditions.
Lawsuits are being filed against government officials who have LIED about an Autism/vaccine connection.
RFK Jr. has already won two lawsuits that help build a case to prove we have a flawed vaccine system and need to do better.
In one lawsuit, Health and Human Services (HHS) conceded that they have not done a single safety study on vaccines in 30 years, as they were mandated to do post the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA). This Act removed liability from the vaccine manufacturers. HHS was supposed to be doing third party safety testing and they have failed us.
In another lawsuit, RFK Jr. won a case with his client against Monsanto, proving glyphosate caused this man’s cancer. Glyphosate is in vaccines...
More lawsuits will be won over the course of the upcoming years as we begin to unravel the corruption and greed that has ensued.
Thousands of warriors across the country are meeting with their legislators to encourage them to read the book that is being gifted to them by RFK Jr., #theautismbook. This book is the “Silent Spring” by Rachel Carson of our generation, which was a controversial book at the time for Rachel’s views that DDT was poisoning our nation!
It is impossible to read this book and still say vaccines don’t cause Autism. If you have not read this book, please do. You can’t possibly be fully informed on vaccines until you’ve read this book. This book is NOT anti-vaccine. The author does not say we must do away with vaccines but we MUST address the scientifically proven TRUTH that vaccines can and do cause Autism.”
-Alexandra Simone
Please check the links below for more info:
• Buy the book: How to End the Autism Epidemic
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1603588248/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-RlWBb816MKE...
• Children’s Health Defense:
Pay ONLY $10 for lifetime membership!
http://childrenshealthdefense.org/
• Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN):
http://icandecide.org/
• The Canary Party:
http://canaryparty.org/
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Suerue2018 - 2018-10-13 10:45 PM
“It can no longer be denied that vaccines cause Autism. They do. Vaccines CAN and do cause Autism.
On October 4, warrior activists from The Canary Party met with President Trump in Minnesota and discussed the epidemic we have of children with Autism. The science shows we have an epidemic of Autism, it is UNDENIABLE. President Trump was given two books: “Denial” by Mark Blaxill and “How to End the Autism Epidemic” by Jb Handley. Both books were accepted and their conversation was very productive.
This week, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sent out over 7,300 copies of the book “How to End the Autism Epidemic” by Jb Handley to EVERY elected official in the country as a part of his non-profit efforts with Children’s Health Defense to save our children from chronic and debilitating life long conditions.
Lawsuits are being filed against government officials who have LIED about an Autism/vaccine connection.
RFK Jr. has already won two lawsuits that help build a case to prove we have a flawed vaccine system and need to do better.
In one lawsuit, Health and Human Services (HHS ) conceded that they have not done a single safety study on vaccines in 30 years, as they were mandated to do post the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA ). This Act removed liability from the vaccine manufacturers. HHS was supposed to be doing third party safety testing and they have failed us.
In another lawsuit, RFK Jr. won a case with his client against Monsanto, proving glyphosate caused this man’s cancer. Glyphosate is in vaccines...
More lawsuits will be won over the course of the upcoming years as we begin to unravel the corruption and greed that has ensued.
Thousands of warriors across the country are meeting with their legislators to encourage them to read the book that is being gifted to them by RFK Jr., #theautismbook. This book is the “Silent Spring” by Rachel Carson of our generation, which was a controversial book at the time for Rachel’s views that DDT was poisoning our nation!
It is impossible to read this book and still say vaccines don’t cause Autism. If you have not read this book, please do. You can’t possibly be fully informed on vaccines until you’ve read this book. This book is NOT anti-vaccine. The author does not say we must do away with vaccines but we MUST address the scientifically proven TRUTH that vaccines can and do cause Autism.”
-Alexandra Simone
Please check the links below for more info:
• Buy the book: How to End the Autism Epidemic
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1603588248/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-RlWBb816MKE...
• Children’s Health Defense:
Pay ONLY $10 for lifetime membership!
http://childrenshealthdefense.org/
• Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN ):
http://icandecide.org/
• The Canary Party:
http://canaryparty.org/
I see you’re back.
Trump is wrong.
RFK is wrong.
Vaccines have not been shown to cause autism....period.
And another thing, please at least give your dog a rabies shot. I assure you he won’t get Autism.
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Location: Arkansas | Bear - 2018-10-13 11:26 PM
Suerue2018 - 2018-10-13 10:45 PM
“It can no longer be denied that vaccines cause Autism. They do. Vaccines CAN and do cause Autism.
On October 4, warrior activists from The Canary Party met with President Trump in Minnesota and discussed the epidemic we have of children with Autism. The science shows we have an epidemic of Autism, it is UNDENIABLE. President Trump was given two books: “Denial” by Mark Blaxill and “How to End the Autism Epidemic” by Jb Handley. Both books were accepted and their conversation was very productive.
This week, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sent out over 7,300 copies of the book “How to End the Autism Epidemic” by Jb Handley to EVERY elected official in the country as a part of his non-profit efforts with Children’s Health Defense to save our children from chronic and debilitating life long conditions.
Lawsuits are being filed against government officials who have LIED about an Autism/vaccine connection.
RFK Jr. has already won two lawsuits that help build a case to prove we have a flawed vaccine system and need to do better.
In one lawsuit, Health and Human Services (HHS ) conceded that they have not done a single safety study on vaccines in 30 years, as they were mandated to do post the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA ). This Act removed liability from the vaccine manufacturers. HHS was supposed to be doing third party safety testing and they have failed us.
In another lawsuit, RFK Jr. won a case with his client against Monsanto, proving glyphosate caused this man’s cancer. Glyphosate is in vaccines...
More lawsuits will be won over the course of the upcoming years as we begin to unravel the corruption and greed that has ensued.
Thousands of warriors across the country are meeting with their legislators to encourage them to read the book that is being gifted to them by RFK Jr., #theautismbook. This book is the “Silent Spring” by Rachel Carson of our generation, which was a controversial book at the time for Rachel’s views that DDT was poisoning our nation!
It is impossible to read this book and still say vaccines don’t cause Autism. If you have not read this book, please do. You can’t possibly be fully informed on vaccines until you’ve read this book. This book is NOT anti-vaccine. The author does not say we must do away with vaccines but we MUST address the scientifically proven TRUTH that vaccines can and do cause Autism.”
-Alexandra Simone
Please check the links below for more info:
• Buy the book: How to End the Autism Epidemic
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1603588248/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-RlWBb816MKE...
• Children’s Health Defense:
Pay ONLY $10 for lifetime membership!
http://childrenshealthdefense.org/
• Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN ):
http://icandecide.org/
• The Canary Party:
http://canaryparty.org/
I see you’re back.
Trump is wrong.
RFK is wrong.
Vaccines have not been shown to cause autism....period.
And another thing, please at least give your dog a rabies shot. I assure you he won’t get Autism.
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| My last post in hopes to encourage further research through documentaries, books and articles. Never stop researching! There are pediatricians out there starting to speak out about the dangers.
“Something that people who vaccinate need to think about:
We only have vaccines for 16 diseases. There are thousands of things we DON'T vaccinate for. You worry about chicken pox but not hand, foot and mouth disease. You worry about measles but not scarlet fever. You worry about mumps but not leprosy. You need to realize that you only fear the diseases for which vaccines exist.
Tons of once-deadly diseases declined due to better sanitation and nutrition. We never had widespread vaccines for things like typhoid, tuberculosis, Spanish flu, Black Death, cholera, etc. They're just as much at risk of "coming back" as anything we vaccinate for, but we don't see very many cases of these things (if any).
You also need to look at the change in the schedule over time. I never received the following vaccines in the 80s: pneumococcal, meningococcal, Hib, HPV, rotavirus or varicella. How did my peers and I ever survive childhood?
On the same note, my parents were not vaccinated for measles, mumps or rubella (in addition to the things I was not vaccinated for) and they received fewer doses of vaccines for things like diphtheria and polio. How did THEY and their peers ever survive childhood?
Pharmaceutical companies are always going to be coming up with new vaccines that will be recommended because the diseases are potentially deadly under the right conditions. At what point will you say it's enough?
-Jessie Anne
Just as a side note... There would be a lot fewer diseases if all vaccinations were to be banned, because currently most diseases are kept alive by vaccine shedding...”
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| ropenrun - 2018-10-14 12:55 AM
I wonder why my niece has 2 autistic children of which neither were vaccinated? I also worked in a Special Ed Preschool program where a majority of our students were Autistic. A larger percentage were not vaccinated than were vaccinated.
One of the best explanations I've seen-
Autism is a behavioral diagnosis. In order to receive the diagnosis of “Autism” a child must exhibit a certain number of behaviors over a certain time frame. If he or she does not do so, the diagnosis of “autism” is not warranted.
There is no blood test for “autism.”
“Autism” can’t be confirmed or “ruled-out” by laboratory analysis. It’s strictly a behavioral diagnosis.
Therefore, anything that causes physiological damage cannot directly “cause” autism.
Ergo… vaccines cannot “cause” “autism.”
Vaccines cause encephalitis, seizures,
immune system deficiencies, and gastrointestinal problems.
Encephalitis causes mood swings, extreme pain, inattention and impulsivity, agression, balance problems, and difficulty relating to ones environment.
Seizures cause mood swings, inattention and impulsivity, and alterations in conciousness.
Immune system deficiencies cause children to have more frequent bacterial infections, such as ear infections, upper respiratory infections (URIs), sinusutis, and strep infections.
Immune system deficiencies cause children to have more frequent viral infections, such as stomatitis, “fevers of unknown origin,” “viral rashes,” hives, conjunctivitis, and gastrointestinal viruses that cause vomiting and diarrhea.
Immune system deficiencies cause children to be more vulnerable to “everything that’s going around” and to have a tougher time getting over things than their peers.
Gastrointestinal damage from vaccines causes diarrhea,nausea, reflux, vomiting, and the recently discovered “disease” now known as GERD (Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disease).
Gatrointestinal damage from vaccines causes increased vulnerability to viruses and bacteria, which leads to increased administration of antibiotics, which leads to overgrowth of pathogenic yeast.
Pathogenic yeast overgrowth leads to intestinal hyperpermeability “leaky gut syndrome”, constipation, food allergies, skin eruptions, “drunken, silly behavior,” inattention and impulsivity, and cravings for bread, sugar, ice cream, milk, and carbohydrates.
Technically, vaccines do not cause autism because techincally there is no such thing as autism.
Vaccines cause the underlying physical conditions that result in the pain, neurological damage, immune system disorders, gastrointestinal damage, and yeast overgrowth – all of which combine to produce the behavioral symptoms that result in the “autism” diagnosis.
Gastrointestinal damage is the most obvious result of vaccine damage.
When a previously healthy child suddenly starts having multiple episodes of watery and extremely stinky diarrhea every day, and this happens shortly after receiving vaccinations, it is notable as a “vaccine injury.” What is not so obvious is that when the child’s gut is permanently damaged, he or she is no longer able to absorb nutrients necessary to produce neurotransmitters necessary for proper brain function. So when the child develops mood swings, sleep difficulties, and learning disabilities several months later, these issues are not recognized as being related to the vaccine injury because the initial damage occurred many months earlier.
Please re-read the previous paragraph.
This is why Dr. Andrew Wakefield is such a threat to the pharmaceutical industry.
Dr. Wakefield NEVER said vaccines cause autism.
Dr. Wakefield is a gastroenterologist. He saw a number of children with gastrointestinal problems who also happened to be diagnosed with autism. Dr. Wakefield reported his observations. He never claimed that the MMR “caused” autism. He merely reported that a number of children he had seen had BOTH gastrointestinal problems AND autism, and according to parental report, these issues developed within a short time of when the children received the the vaccine.
Vaccines cause gastrointestinal damage.
Gastrointestinal damage causes malabsorption of nutrients necessary for proper brain function.
Malabsorption of essential nutrients causes immune system disorders, seizures, encephalopathy, etc… and THAT’s what leads to the ultimate diagnosis of “autism.” | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | SueRue, the rubbish contained in your extensive C&P posts is just astonishingly overwhelming. I’m not going to waste my time listing every grotesquely incorrect remark. Even if I did, it would only make you resist facts, logic, and reason with more obstinance. I don’t think you even comprehend half of the garbage you pasted on this thread.
Here is a nice, concise summary of Dr Wakefield’s record, none of which can be debunked:
Andrew Wakefield (UK), a former practicing physician and senior lecturer at the Royal Free Hospital in London, was found guilty of dishonesty in his research and banned from medicine by the UK General Medical Council following an investigation by Brian Deer of the London Sunday Times.[174] Wakefield's claims of a link between the MMR vaccine, autism and inflammatory bowel disease have been reported in the British Medical Journal as "based not on bad science but on a deliberate fraud,"[175] and the 1998 paper originally presenting his theory was retracted in 2010 by The Lancet.[176][177] Wakefield was unsuccessful in an attempt to sue detractors/critics for libel and defamation.[178][179]
The takeaway: He’s a quack, a liar, a cheat, and a proven fraud. His work has been expunged from every reputable scientific journal.
In the end, his being banished from practice in England has yielded handsome windfalls.
Bottom line is this: Your Antivax cult is resulting in people dying from preventable disease. Think about that.....must be very rewarding.
C&P’s of random flawed comments is not “research”. It’s rubbish.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Suerue2018 - 2018-10-13 10:45 PM “It can no longer be denied that vaccines cause Autism. I have read back through all of your nonsense "cut & paste", of which most can be soundly disproved .....
My question to you is ..... how would you feel if your unvaccinated child were to be severely affected by measles, mumps, whooping cough, meningitis, polio, etc. which includes brain damage, deafness, and EVEN death Diseases that were mostly eradicated BEFORE irresponsible "experts" falsely started the anti-vaxer craze....... ...... because YOU made the decision for this child to NOT be vaccinated!OR
Your unvaccinated child KILLED a baby that was too young to be vaccinated or a child (or person of any age) who can't be immunized for medical (immune) reasons ......
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | NJJ - 2018-10-14 9:32 AM
Suerue2018 - 2018-10-13 10:45 PM “It can no longer be denied that vaccines cause Autism.
I have read back through all of your nonsense "cut & paste", of which most can be soundly disproved .....
My question to you is ..... how would you feel if your unvaccinated child were to be severely affected by measles, mumps, whooping cough, meningitis, polio, etc. which includes brain damage, deafness, and EVEN death  Diseases that were mostly eradicated BEFORE irresponsible "experts" falsely started the anti-vaxer craze....... ...... because YOU made the decision for this child to NOT vaccinate!OR Â
Your unvaccinated child KILLED a baby that was too young to be vaccinated or a child (or person of any age) who can't be immunized for medical (immune) reasons ......Â
Excellent question. I wouldn’t hold my breath if you are looking for a fact-based answer, certainly not one backed up by sound data and research. Most likely you’ll see an answer along the lines of a C&P from an antivaxx Facebook group. One possibility that is a common response to questions like this is to invoke the “virus shedding” argument, which she probably doesn’t even understand and mostly BS anyway.
Those of you who think this isn’t something that can effect your vaccinated kids.....think again. The unvaccinated kids do pose a risk even to vaccinated kids.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | One more point. As soon as politicians stick their noses in this ongoing saga, then you can kiss logic and reason goodbye.
The best way to eliminate logic, reason, and facts in any debate is to bring in politicians. They love sh!t like this because it becomes a useful tool and it serves as a way to keep the focus off their inability to focus on issues that ought to be their responsibility.
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| Suerue2018 - 2018-10-14 12:49 AM My last post in hopes to encourage further research through documentaries, books and articles. Never stop researching! There are pediatricians out there starting to speak out about the dangers. “Something that people who vaccinate need to think about: We only have vaccines for 16 diseases. There are thousands of things we DON'T vaccinate for. You worry about chicken pox but not hand, foot and mouth disease. You worry about measles but not scarlet fever. You worry about mumps but not leprosy. You need to realize that you only fear the diseases for which vaccines exist. Tons of once-deadly diseases declined due to better sanitation and nutrition. We never had widespread vaccines for things like typhoid, tuberculosis, Spanish flu, Black Death, cholera, etc. They're just as much at risk of "coming back" as anything we vaccinate for, but we don't see very many cases of these things (if any). You also need to look at the change in the schedule over time. I never received the following vaccines in the 80s: pneumococcal, meningococcal, Hib, HPV, rotavirus or varicella. How did my peers and I ever survive childhood? On the same note, my parents were not vaccinated for measles, mumps or rubella (in addition to the things I was not vaccinated for) and they received fewer doses of vaccines for things like diphtheria and polio. How did THEY and their peers ever survive childhood? Pharmaceutical companies are always going to be coming up with new vaccines that will be recommended because the diseases are potentially deadly under the right conditions. At what point will you say it's enough? -Jessie Anne Just as a side note... There would be a lot fewer diseases if all vaccinations were to be banned, because currently most diseases are kept alive by vaccine shedding...”
How is having new vaccines bad? There are more vaccines now than 40 years ago because of the vast changes in science and medical technology. These new advancements lead to more advancements and so on. Just look at the leaps and bounds of the genetic industry ( from a few markers to whole genomes) and how this has influenced genetic medicine and things like cancer treatment in just the last five years.
Can anyone that is anti-vax cite any current peer reviewed papers that link autism to vaccinations, that has not already been discredited? I am not looking for articles, books, opinions, or anything other than peer reviewed in credable journals. I have a PhD in genetics and I take anything that is not peer reviewed with a grain of salt as it is typically easy to pick over a scientifc paper and make it say what you want even with a citiation and if there are no citations then I really question the subject matter. I mean have you seen the Flat Earth Society's website? If I only had two brain cells I might jump on that bandwagon as it is a well built website with lots of information...not scientifically backed up information, but information nonetheless.
As someone that works with sick wildlife, I cannot fathom not vaccinating your domestic animals let alone your children. Perhaps people that don't vacinate should go watch some animals dying of rabies or West Nile to see the suffering that goes on before death.  | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | EagleJess - 2018-10-14 10:11 AM
Suerue2018 - 2018-10-14 12:49 AM My last post in hopes to encourage further research through documentaries, books and articles. Never stop researching! There are pediatricians out there starting to speak out about the dangers. “Something that people who vaccinate need to think about: We only have vaccines for 16 diseases. There are thousands of things we DON'T vaccinate for. You worry about chicken pox but not hand, foot and mouth disease. You worry about measles but not scarlet fever. You worry about mumps but not leprosy. You need to realize that you only fear the diseases for which vaccines exist. Tons of once-deadly diseases declined due to better sanitation and nutrition. We never had widespread vaccines for things like typhoid, tuberculosis, Spanish flu, Black Death, cholera, etc. They're just as much at risk of "coming back" as anything we vaccinate for, but we don't see very many cases of these things (if any). You also need to look at the change in the schedule over time. I never received the following vaccines in the 80s: pneumococcal, meningococcal, Hib, HPV, rotavirus or varicella. How did my peers and I ever survive childhood? On the same note, my parents were not vaccinated for measles, mumps or rubella (in addition to the things I was not vaccinated for) and they received fewer doses of vaccines for things like diphtheria and polio. How did THEY and their peers ever survive childhood? Pharmaceutical companies are always going to be coming up with new vaccines that will be recommended because the diseases are potentially deadly under the right conditions. At what point will you say it's enough? -Jessie Anne Just as a side note... There would be a lot fewer diseases if all vaccinations were to be banned, because currently most diseases are kept alive by vaccine shedding...”
How is having new vaccines bad? There are more vaccines now than 40 years ago because of the vast changes in science and medical technology. These new advancements lead to more advancements and so on. Just look at the leaps and bounds of the genetic industry ( from a few markers to whole genomes ) and how this has influenced genetic medicine and things like cancer treatment in just the last five years. Can anyone that is anti-vax cite any current peer reviewed papers that link autism to vaccinations, that has not already been discredited? I am not looking for articles, books, opinions, or anything other than peer reviewed in credable journals. I have a PhD in genetics and I take anything that is not peer reviewed with a grain of salt as it is typically easy to pick over a scientifc paper and make it say what you want even with a citiation and if there are no citations then I really question the subject matter. I mean have you seen the Flat Earth Society's website? If I only had two brain cells I might jump on that bandwagon as it is a well built website with lots of information...not scientifically backed up information, but information nonetheless. As someone that works with sick wildlife, I cannot fathom not vaccinating your domestic animals let alone your children. Perhaps people that don't vacinate should go watch some animals dying of rabies or West Nile to see the suffering that goes on before death.Â
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Location: California | If you are questioning vaccines, don't do them. Research. There is a reason we have that doubt. Here is another site to learn information:
https://www.learntherisk.org/ | |
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| One thing that is so obvious on this post is that for the most part(no blanket statement) pro-vaxxers are condescending and have a superiority type of attitude and the ones that are encouraging research do not. Even Suerue has not come across as a person with an attitude. I cannot stand the condescending attitude. Drives me nuts! This is what is wrong with people! We can have different opinions and beliefs without the attitudes and the need to act superior. Just because some of you have letters behind your name doesn't mean that you are the end all be all on this subject or any subject. Why belittle someone? There is ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO KNOW MORE THAN YOU ALL OR ME. The Golden Rule is obsolete. Showing mercy and kindness is obsolete. Compassion is gone. You can encourage someone to learn about your opinion without the superior attitude. Someone asked an honest question because they wanted numerous opinions, not posters that would come on and belittle others because their opinions are different than the norm. SMH!!! | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Sooner2 - 2018-10-14 6:40 PM
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If you are questioning vaccines, don't do them. Research. There is a reason we have that doubt. Here is another site to learn information:
https://www.learntherisk.org/
I would phrase this differently.
I would say, before abandoning vaccines search for reliable, science-based sources that are based on verifiable, proven, statistically sound evidence. “Learntherisk.org” is not one of those sites. Like so many other antivax sites, it is cleverly disguised.
I don’t expect the average person to read the New England Journal of Medicine, or the Annals of Internal Medicine, however there are several sources that I recommend to people which I have come to know and trust over the years. Scienceblogs, Quackwatch, Science Based Medicine, the Genetic Literacy Project, Skeptical Raptor, Left Brain Right Brain, and Harpocrates Speaks are blogs I have followed for years. They are all excellent quality. But, don’t take my word for it. My criteria for blog excellence is the following:
- Do they cite their sources?
- Are the sources reliable and backed by peer-review?
- Do they back up their claims?
- Do they NOT sell things?
- Are they good people with good intentions?
One observation I have made is that oftentimes when people say “Do your research” that suggestion is followed by a link to something like “learntherisk.org”, which is cleverly disguised rubbish. | |
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