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I can't even read through all of this crap. Biden has dementia. He can't complete sentences. Someone else is running the country. 


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run n rate - 2022-04-12 4:38 PM


Isn't that same oil being transported by rail and truck over our roads and thru our lands though?



Yes, it is currently being shipped by ship and railroad. However, there is a distinction between crude oil and tar sands (explained in my prior post), which they wanted to ship through the Keystone XL pipeline. 


Pumping that oil is not the best method of transportation. Railroads are better.


Tar sands are a form of bituminous petroleum.


To pump tar-sands oil it must be diluted and pumped at high pressure.


Pumping at high pressure causes heat build-up and increases the problem of leakage in pipelines.


Railroad transportation is better in that the “oil” is heated and loaded into tank cars where it solidifies for transit.


At the receiving end, it is heated to unload.


When the tar-sands oil gets to a port or refiner, it will go to CHINA, not the U.S.


We can pump all the oil we want and there will be no change in the price per barrel, since OPEC sets the price of oil on the world market, NOT America! 


Price will continue to rise since Russia supplies about 20% of crude oil on the world market.


 



No disrespect intended, but that is not actually how the economy works. The futures market controls price---this is why when Biden was elected the prices gradually started going up, even though there was no actual policy change yet. The futures market knew that there would be change---it is quite simple to get prices to come down, all that President Biden has to do is say that the y are " thinking about" ramping up US production and they are going to revisit the Keystone Pipeline---they do not even really have to mean it, but the prices would drop immediately because it would scare the speculators on the Futures Markets.



I will preface this by saying that I retired from the Compliance Dept of a Broker-Dealer so I am well aware of how the "futures" market works. That being said, it is somewhat more complicated than JUST the futures market..... the futures market is the "expected" price down the road but there are many factors rolled into the price of oil ..... GLOBAL supply & demand, weather, natural disasters, war, etc etc etc .... and it STILL boils down that OPEC sets the prices ....NOT the President.


I wonder how many of you were just as outraged in the years of 2007-2008 when the gas and diesel prices SOARED ...... and we had BUSH for a President.....was it HIS fault? 


 


 



Well since you like to dig up bones ....aka the past well Nancy Pelosi blamed Bush.....Js


 


And as far as your supply and demand theory...if we increase supply in the USA will that not help the global market...but wait Biden would rather ask anyone but the USA oil producers for more oil....who Biden has helped shutdown since day 1 of his great administration.....



The scariest thing should be the fact that this administration is asking foreign leaders who are known dictators to sell us oil.  Venezula and Iraq.  And using nuclear weapons as bargaining chips.  


Rather then promote US oil.  



Should we be asking the oil companies WHY there are over NINE THOUSAND unused approved drilling permits? or WHY they have not increased their productivity? 



If you listened to something besides CNN and MSNBC, etc .....you would know the answer....instead of this democratic talking point...



I was going to say the same thing.  People need to realize there is a logical reason why those permits are "unused".  Just because a company has a lease doesn't mean there is oil and gas on that tract of land. My understanding is that many times, after a permit is granted, it is determined that it's not worth drilling on that tract.  There may not even be recoverable oil or gas on that tract. The administration has paused leasing on federal lands.  I believe the Biden administration is required by law to sell oil and gas leases on federal land. Once you determine that there is sufficient oil and gas on a leased tract, you have to go through another permitting process. 
The problem now is that there is a leasing moratorium on federal lands.....so I'm a bit confused on that.  Here's another seldom mentioned point, but a very important one.  Oil and gas companies are EXTREMELY reticent about drilling and exploration given the malignant viscous opposition to oil and gas.  There are several videos out there of Joe and Kamala vowing to oppose oil and gas and "wipe them out".  Who the hell is going to invest in drilling and exploration with that kind of administration?  Would YOU?  Of course not.  So...guess what.....oil and gas are taking as much profit as they can BECAUSE our president has vowed to wipe them out.  


That's a fact, Jack. 



Another one who has selectively "missed" the second question ...... 


WHY haven't the oil companies increased their production?



No its not the answer you are looking for so, you want to blame the oil companies once again......now tell us what Biden has done that is so good......


When COVID hit the oil companies had to cutback to skeleton crews, just enough to keep the rig going. Some even shut rigs down completely. Now they are trying to open back up, but now those guys that they laid off, have other jobs, most likely job that they can be home with their families every night. Who wants to leave that? Some will/may go back due to the pay. Most won't. And then trying to hire new guys, that want to work, where do you find those anymore? You've got places like Burger King paying $15-$18 an hour to flip burgers, minimal work and they don't have to leave home.

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Guess that's on Putin too.

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run n rate - 2022-04-12 4:38 PM


Isn't that same oil being transported by rail and truck over our roads and thru our lands though?



Yes, it is currently being shipped by ship and railroad. However, there is a distinction between crude oil and tar sands (explained in my prior post), which they wanted to ship through the Keystone XL pipeline. 


Pumping that oil is not the best method of transportation. Railroads are better.


Tar sands are a form of bituminous petroleum.


To pump tar-sands oil it must be diluted and pumped at high pressure.


Pumping at high pressure causes heat build-up and increases the problem of leakage in pipelines.


Railroad transportation is better in that the “oil” is heated and loaded into tank cars where it solidifies for transit.


At the receiving end, it is heated to unload.


When the tar-sands oil gets to a port or refiner, it will go to CHINA, not the U.S.


We can pump all the oil we want and there will be no change in the price per barrel, since OPEC sets the price of oil on the world market, NOT America! 


Price will continue to rise since Russia supplies about 20% of crude oil on the world market.


 



No disrespect intended, but that is not actually how the economy works. The futures market controls price---this is why when Biden was elected the prices gradually started going up, even though there was no actual policy change yet. The futures market knew that there would be change---it is quite simple to get prices to come down, all that President Biden has to do is say that the y are " thinking about" ramping up US production and they are going to revisit the Keystone Pipeline---they do not even really have to mean it, but the prices would drop immediately because it would scare the speculators on the Futures Markets.



I will preface this by saying that I retired from the Compliance Dept of a Broker-Dealer so I am well aware of how the "futures" market works. That being said, it is somewhat more complicated than JUST the futures market..... the futures market is the "expected" price down the road but there are many factors rolled into the price of oil ..... GLOBAL supply & demand, weather, natural disasters, war, etc etc etc .... and it STILL boils down that OPEC sets the prices ....NOT the President.


I wonder how many of you were just as outraged in the years of 2007-2008 when the gas and diesel prices SOARED ...... and we had BUSH for a President.....was it HIS fault? 


 


 



Well since you like to dig up bones ....aka the past well Nancy Pelosi blamed Bush.....Js


 


And as far as your supply and demand theory...if we increase supply in the USA will that not help the global market...but wait Biden would rather ask anyone but the USA oil producers for more oil....who Biden has helped shutdown since day 1 of his great administration.....



The scariest thing should be the fact that this administration is asking foreign leaders who are known dictators to sell us oil.  Venezula and Iraq.  And using nuclear weapons as bargaining chips.  


Rather then promote US oil.  



Should we be asking the oil companies WHY there are over NINE THOUSAND unused approved drilling permits? or WHY they have not increased their productivity? 



If you listened to something besides CNN and MSNBC, etc .....you would know the answer....instead of this democratic talking point...



I was going to say the same thing.  People need to realize there is a logical reason why those permits are "unused".  Just because a company has a lease doesn't mean there is oil and gas on that tract of land. My understanding is that many times, after a permit is granted, it is determined that it's not worth drilling on that tract.  There may not even be recoverable oil or gas on that tract. The administration has paused leasing on federal lands.  I believe the Biden administration is required by law to sell oil and gas leases on federal land. Once you determine that there is sufficient oil and gas on a leased tract, you have to go through another permitting process. 
The problem now is that there is a leasing moratorium on federal lands.....so I'm a bit confused on that.  Here's another seldom mentioned point, but a very important one.  Oil and gas companies are EXTREMELY reticent about drilling and exploration given the malignant viscous opposition to oil and gas.  There are several videos out there of Joe and Kamala vowing to oppose oil and gas and "wipe them out".  Who the hell is going to invest in drilling and exploration with that kind of administration?  Would YOU?  Of course not.  So...guess what.....oil and gas are taking as much profit as they can BECAUSE our president has vowed to wipe them out.  


That's a fact, Jack. 



Another one who has selectively "missed" the second question ...... 


WHY haven't the oil companies increased their production?



No its not the answer you are looking for so, you want to blame the oil companies once again......now tell us what Biden has done that is so good......



When COVID hit the oil companies had to cutback to skeleton crews, just enough to keep the rig going. Some even shut rigs down completely. Now they are trying to open back up, but now those guys that they laid off, have other jobs, most likely job that they can be home with their families every night. Who wants to leave that? Some will/may go back due to the pay. Most won't. And then trying to hire new guys, that want to work, where do you find those anymore? You've got places like Burger King paying $15-$18 an hour to flip burgers, minimal work and they don't have to leave home.


and yet ...... the top 3 oil companies made over 46 BILLION in profits in the second quarter ...... WHY should they lower the price of gas????

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Just because there are 9K permits doesn't mean there is oil there...it's like buying a horse, just because the papers say he is going to be a good one doens't mean he will be.

As for the refineries , I think we are down to like 130 of them in the US( the number was over  200 at one point) , you have to have refineries in order to produce gas. I would think that with the evironmental laws and restrictions that it isn't as simple as going back in and simply turning the lights back on in one that hasn't been operating in order to produce more fuel.... We had a good amount in reserve but a large amount was released to the US market and then bid off to the highest bidders from other countries.  I don't think this is by accident, I think the plan has been to overwhelm the general public in the US with fuel prices , food prices, etc, so that those that still believe in the system of working for what you have will need some assistance and bow to the socialist ideals this government is forcing on us.  Meanwhile those that live in those types of systems are coming across our borders to escape those types of regimes not realizing that is the goal for America too, as well as the ones coming for the new hand out system we seem to have under this administration.  

2.5 years ago I was making just over $17 and hour and doing okay.  Actually had a little left over at the end of the pay period.  Now I'm making $23 an hour and after paying bills and having to watch my pennies and lately have been not going home at noon to get a horse ridden at lunch to try to save gas so I can pay my PG & E bill which skyrocketed.  

 

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Just because there are 9K permits doesn't mean there is oil there...it's like buying a horse, just because the papers say he is going to be a good one doens't mean he will be.


As for the refineries , I think we are down to like 130 of them in the US( the number was over  200 at one point) , you have to have refineries in order to produce gas. I would think that with the evironmental laws and restrictions that it isn't as simple as going back in and simply turning the lights back on in one that hasn't been operating in order to produce more fuel.... We had a good amount in reserve but a large amount was released to the US market and then bid off to the highest bidders from other countries.  I don't think this is by accident, I think the plan has been to overwhelm the general public in the US with fuel prices , food prices, etc, so that those that still believe in the system of working for what you have will need some assistance and bow to the socialist ideals this government is forcing on us.  Meanwhile those that live in those types of systems are coming across our borders to escape those types of regimes not realizing that is the goal for America too, as well as the ones coming for the new hand out system we seem to have under this administration.  


2.5 years ago I was making just over $17 and hour and doing okay.  Actually had a little left over at the end of the pay period.  Now I'm making $23 an hour and after paying bills and having to watch my pennies and lately have been not going home at noon to get a horse ridden at lunch to try to save gas so I can pay my PG & E bill which skyrocketed.  


 


I will reiterate ....... and yet ...... the top 3 oil companies made over 46 BILLION in profits in the second quarter ...... WHY should they lower the price of gas????

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Because it isn't illegal to make a profit. 

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run n rate - 2022-09-27 3:15 PM


Because it isn't illegal to make a profit. 


Exactly ....Apple does and no one complains....funny how that works .

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NJJ - 2022-09-27 12:35 PM


run n rate - 2022-09-28 11:24 AM


Just because there are 9K permits doesn't mean there is oil there...it's like buying a horse, just because the papers say he is going to be a good one doens't mean he will be.


As for the refineries , I think we are down to like 130 of them in the US( the number was over  200 at one point) , you have to have refineries in order to produce gas. I would think that with the evironmental laws and restrictions that it isn't as simple as going back in and simply turning the lights back on in one that hasn't been operating in order to produce more fuel.... We had a good amount in reserve but a large amount was released to the US market and then bid off to the highest bidders from other countries.  I don't think this is by accident, I think the plan has been to overwhelm the general public in the US with fuel prices , food prices, etc, so that those that still believe in the system of working for what you have will need some assistance and bow to the socialist ideals this government is forcing on us.  Meanwhile those that live in those types of systems are coming across our borders to escape those types of regimes not realizing that is the goal for America too, as well as the ones coming for the new hand out system we seem to have under this administration.  


2.5 years ago I was making just over $17 and hour and doing okay.  Actually had a little left over at the end of the pay period.  Now I'm making $23 an hour and after paying bills and having to watch my pennies and lately have been not going home at noon to get a horse ridden at lunch to try to save gas so I can pay my PG & E bill which skyrocketed.  


 



I will reiterate ....... and yet ...... the top 3 oil companies made over 46 BILLION in profits in the second quarter ...... WHY should they lower the price of gas????


You stuck on this like your man Biden....

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CJE - 2022-09-29 9:33 AM


NJJ - 2022-09-27 12:35 PM


run n rate - 2022-09-28 11:24 AM


Just because there are 9K permits doesn't mean there is oil there...it's like buying a horse, just because the papers say he is going to be a good one doens't mean he will be.


As for the refineries , I think we are down to like 130 of them in the US( the number was over  200 at one point) , you have to have refineries in order to produce gas. I would think that with the evironmental laws and restrictions that it isn't as simple as going back in and simply turning the lights back on in one that hasn't been operating in order to produce more fuel.... We had a good amount in reserve but a large amount was released to the US market and then bid off to the highest bidders from other countries.  I don't think this is by accident, I think the plan has been to overwhelm the general public in the US with fuel prices , food prices, etc, so that those that still believe in the system of working for what you have will need some assistance and bow to the socialist ideals this government is forcing on us.  Meanwhile those that live in those types of systems are coming across our borders to escape those types of regimes not realizing that is the goal for America too, as well as the ones coming for the new hand out system we seem to have under this administration.  


2.5 years ago I was making just over $17 and hour and doing okay.  Actually had a little left over at the end of the pay period.  Now I'm making $23 an hour and after paying bills and having to watch my pennies and lately have been not going home at noon to get a horse ridden at lunch to try to save gas so I can pay my PG & E bill which skyrocketed.  


 



I will reiterate ....... and yet ...... the top 3 oil companies made over 46 BILLION in profits in the second quarter ...... WHY should they lower the price of gas????



You stuck on this like your man Biden....


Just answer the question ..... WHY should they lower the price of gas ????? and cut into their record profits????

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NJJ - 2022-09-28 2:39 PM


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Just because there are 9K permits doesn't mean there is oil there...it's like buying a horse, just because the papers say he is going to be a good one doens't mean he will be.


As for the refineries , I think we are down to like 130 of them in the US( the number was over  200 at one point) , you have to have refineries in order to produce gas. I would think that with the evironmental laws and restrictions that it isn't as simple as going back in and simply turning the lights back on in one that hasn't been operating in order to produce more fuel.... We had a good amount in reserve but a large amount was released to the US market and then bid off to the highest bidders from other countries.  I don't think this is by accident, I think the plan has been to overwhelm the general public in the US with fuel prices , food prices, etc, so that those that still believe in the system of working for what you have will need some assistance and bow to the socialist ideals this government is forcing on us.  Meanwhile those that live in those types of systems are coming across our borders to escape those types of regimes not realizing that is the goal for America too, as well as the ones coming for the new hand out system we seem to have under this administration.  


2.5 years ago I was making just over $17 and hour and doing okay.  Actually had a little left over at the end of the pay period.  Now I'm making $23 an hour and after paying bills and having to watch my pennies and lately have been not going home at noon to get a horse ridden at lunch to try to save gas so I can pay my PG & E bill which skyrocketed.  


 



I will reiterate ....... and yet ...... the top 3 oil companies made over 46 BILLION in profits in the second quarter ...... WHY should they lower the price of gas????



You stuck on this like your man Biden....



Just answer the question ..... WHY should they lower the price of gas ????? and cut into their record profits????


LOL you just keep on with their record profits.......remember its supply and demand and traded on the open market......that fool of a president has done everything he could to cut down supply to push up prices to push the electic car agenda.....

 

Now tell us how good of a job Biden is doing.....not the oil companies......

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I'm betting if you follow the money you will find that some of the powers in the administration have financial interest in the Electric vehicles business.  Polititicans = crooks, only do what serves their interest, not the interest of the voters

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I'll just throw this out here. When Bush was in office & gas prices got so high it was all Bush's fault?

Now the President has nothing to do with oil companies & their prices.......hummm

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I'm betting if you follow the money you will find that some of the powers in the administration have financial interest in the Electric vehicles business.  Polititicans = crooks, only do what serves their interest, not the interest of the voters


Nailed it

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I'll just throw this out here. When Bush was in office & gas prices got so high it was all Bush's fault?


Now the President has nothing to do with oil companies & their prices.......hummm


You're correct and while President Bush was trying to lift the ban on offshore drilling Nacny Pelosi as usual blocked....and really it is the democate party that is more responsible for our fuel issues than anyone....

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CJE - 2022-09-30 8:35 AM


euchee - 2022-09-29 4:30 AM


I'm betting if you follow the money you will find that some of the powers in the administration have financial interest in the Electric vehicles business.  Polititicans = crooks, only do what serves their interest, not the interest of the voters



Nailed it


Paul and Nancy Pelosi bought millions of dollars worth of Tesla stock. 

 

 

 

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Oil companies have not made record profits....unless of course you conside 5.3% record profit, which is what Exxon realized for the first 2 quarters of 2022 as reported on Wall Street since they are a publicly traded company. They (Exxon) reported the highest profit margin of the publicly traded oil companies.

So essentially the federal government with all their fees, surcharges and such are making more off of oil than the actual producers are. So not so surprisingly, the corporate greed that Biden loves to cite is the federal government.

Sadly, in my experience lefties care nothing for facts and everyone's reality is different. Pretty convienient for sure.



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Oil companies have not made record profits....unless of course you conside 5.3% record profit, which is what Exxon realized for the first 2 quarters of 2022 as reported on Wall Street since they are a publicly traded company. They (Exxon) reported the highest profit margin of the publicly traded oil companies.

So essentially the federal government with all their fees, surcharges and such are making more off of oil than the actual producers are. So not so surprisingly, the corporate greed that Biden loves to cite is the federal government.

Sadly, in my experience lefties care nothing for facts and everyone's reality is different. Pretty convienient for sure.

 

 

I really don't want to argue with you over oil company profits.  However IMO if they didn't pay their top brass so much they would make more profit.  I have no problem with anyone making a profit.  I do have an issue with greed especially if it's traded in stock buy backs to change the markets.  Also since Exxon lists what they pay people, I picked out 2.  Now do you really think these people work so hard they deserve this much?  I could even understand if it was a great year.  These people need to be in the horse business, they can easily afford it.  I do wonder why 2020 is missing, I have no idea it just wasn't listed.  Oh how I wish I was an oil CEO or VP.  Couple of weeks would work for me.

 

Year YearMonthWeekHourly
      
2017A P Swinger           11,215,974              934,664            215,691       5,393
2018A P Swinger           12,068,878           1,005,739            232,093       5,802
2019A P Swinger           10,781,227              898,435            207,331       5,183
2020     
2021A P Swinger             2,660,242              221,686              51,158       1,278
      
             36,726,321   
      
      
2017D W Woods           14,140,354           1,178,362            271,929       6,798
2018D W Woods           15,800,290           1,316,690            303,851       7,596
2019D W Woods           16,424,332           1,368,694            315,852       7,896
2020     
2021D W Woods           18,435,335           1,536,277            354,525       8,863
      
             64,800,311   

 



Edited by Palopony 2022-10-01 9:45 PM
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Palopony - 2022-09-30 10:43 PM



Cisco6340 - 2022-10-01 10:33 AM


Oil companies have not made record profits....unless of course you conside 5.3% record profit, which is what Exxon realized for the first 2 quarters of 2022 as reported on Wall Street since they are a publicly traded company. They (Exxon) reported the highest profit margin of the publicly traded oil companies.


So essentially the federal government with all their fees, surcharges and such are making more off of oil than the actual producers are. So not so surprisingly, the corporate greed that Biden loves to cite is the federal government.


Sadly, in my experience lefties care nothing for facts and everyone's reality is different. Pretty convienient for sure.


 


 



I really don't want to argue with you over oil company profits.  However IMO if they didn't pay their top brass so much they would make more profit.  I have no problem with anyone making a profit.  I do have an issue with greed especially if it's traded in stock buy backs to change the markets.  Also since Exxon lists what they pay people, I picked out 2.  Now do you really think these people work so hard they deserve this much?  I could even understand if it was a great year.  These people need to be in the horse business, they can easily afford it.  I do wonder why 2020 is missing, I have no idea it just wasn't listed.  Oh how I wish I was an oil CEO or VP.  Couple of weeks would work for me.


 





















































































































































Year   Year Month Week Hourly
           
2017 A P Swinger            11,215,974               934,664             215,691        5,393
2018 A P Swinger            12,068,878            1,005,739             232,093        5,802
2019 A P Swinger            10,781,227               898,435             207,331        5,183
2020          
2021 A P Swinger              2,660,242               221,686               51,158        1,278
           
               36,726,321      
           
           
2017 D W Woods            14,140,354            1,178,362             271,929        6,798
2018 D W Woods            15,800,290            1,316,690             303,851        7,596
2019 D W Woods            16,424,332            1,368,694             315,852        7,896
2020          
2021 D W Woods            18,435,335            1,536,277             354,525        8,863
           
               64,800,311      

 


Its called capitalism which I will take any day vs what our government is trying do...picking winners and losers...based on their agenda thats called socialism.  So yes I am fine with them making what they make just like I am fine with the WalMart CEO too.

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Posted 2022-10-02 1:27 PM
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AP and DW make as much as professional athletes. Dang. Who knew you could become this rich by working? 

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