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Location: Southwest Minnesota | *** The following is a statement from the owner of the most recent POSITIVE EHV-1 case in Kansas (This horse attended the BRF in Lincoln, NE). Our deepest sympathies and appreciation for sharing your story with us all >>>
"Thank you Kim Tatum for bringing such joy in our lives. Hank had been to the brf in Lincoln. He came home and had not been to another race. He showed no signs of any kind until the morning of the 23rd when I noticed he was walking a little funny. That afternoon he lost control of his hind limbs and was down. He was put down on the 24th. He was one of a kind and will be greatly missed. I want to come forward with this information NOW THAT IT IS OFFICIAL to dispel any myths or rumors. This virus can be spread by healthy horses, airborne, or direct contact from people or horses. All of the other horses at my barn are fine.
All horses at brf were potentially exposed as we don’t know where the virus came from. We had an autopsy performed and it came back on 4/29 for EHV-1 the wild non-neurogenic strain. There are several strains of EHV-1 including respiratory and neuro strains. Horses can have a fever of above 101 and carry the virus. If your horse has a fever over 101 blood and nasal secretions can be taken at this time and tested for EHV-1. It is my understanding UC Davis will run these tests at no charge in hopes of understanding the mutation of this virus. As always PLEASE VERIFY this with your vet." |
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| svincent - 2014-04-29 10:40 PM
jcrouse - 2014-04-29 10:35 PM
rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 9:27 PM
linds - 2014-04-29 9:13 PM It's a tough call. I spoke with my vet (from one of the primary reporting offices) this afternoon and he said the risk of exposure is minimal at best. It might be a little more if the KS case gets confirmed (which it now has) since that proves that it was circulating at BRF and not just an isolated case on the WI horse. He said any horse that was at Lincoln would have shown signs or come down with it by now, hence the minimal risk. I'm just on the fence still. RHR was shutdown earlier this year, maybe they will do it again.
I have one question on this - Could a horse get it at Lincoln, not show any signs, but go to another show two weeks later and expose others to the virus, then those horses die from the virus? If that chain of events isn't possible with this virus, then I'm not nearly as concerned about my own horses since they haven't been anywhere after Lincoln except the vet clinic one afternoon. But if it can spread that way and a healthy-looking horse can pass it on to others a week or two later, then I'm really scared. At any rate, I'm glad that eastern Kansas is seemingly shutting all barrel races down for a couple weeks so that facts can come out and everyone can make informed decisions about hauling and caring for their horses.
This question is at the back of my mind. Could it be possible that we have a few "Thyphoid Mary's" out there that are healthy but still shedding the virus?
Undoubtedly. Which is WHY EVERYONE SHOULD STAY HOME. Yes it sucks, I did it in 2011. But 3 weeks goes by quickly... Especially if you have a healthy horse to ride and take your mind off the fact that you aren't running.
One barn here in MN had one euthanized and had three horses "shedding" the virus without other sypmtoms. Vets even stated they would have given them a health certificate. They were only tested due to the horse that was down at the barn and later euthanized.
Who knows how many horses were exposed to the virus and maybe arent showing symptoms but are indeed shedding it. Now they go to RHR and shed to another 10 horses. . . maybe one of them gets the symptoms. Its ongoing unless we stay put for me. Obviously you are never safe but hauling and keeping large amounts of horses stalled together is a recipe for disaster. |
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Location: Soon to be outta here:) | The reason that this worries me so much is that it was such a big race. There were horses from all over there. From tons of different states. So what had been a mostly secluded incident with the horses in mn and wi has now come in contact with over 1000 different horses from all over. So what started as an isolated thing in only a few states, now has the potential to spread all over. And if every horse that was in Lincoln goes to one other race and comes in contact with other horses, and those horses spread it by going to races, who knows how far this thing could spread and how many horses it could infect.
Lets all pray that that doesn't happen, but now knowing that the WI horse was not an isolated thing....it seems to me that that could be a valid worry to have.
Im not a vet or anything, that's just based on my own common sense about how things spread.
Personally, my girls will be staying home for a while now. There will be more races, I cant ever get my horses back if something happens to them. |
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Location: Small Town Iowa | I agree about staying home. I had personal stuff going on while the MN outbreak was happening so I was grounded during that. Now, I still plan on staying home because I can't and won't take the risk. I agree, that people just need to stay home during this. There will be other races. Granted, I don't think I'm competitive enough to be going to the bigger races quite yet, but still it's a chance I'm not willing to take. I'll stay home and save my money. |
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Location: western Nebraska | Based on the new info out now we made the decision tonight to postpone our 18th Annual Barrel Racing Mania that was to be held this weekend May 2,3,4. It will be held on May 30,31, June1st in Broken Bow, NE. I need to get the word out so no one shows up not knowing it has been postponed.
We believe we have done the right thing and I hope everyone that was coming will support our decision and will be able to come play the end of May!
Thanks Martee Pruitt |
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Location: Where I am happiest | doglady - 2014-04-30 12:09 AM Based on the new info out now we made the decision tonight to postpone our 18th Annual Barrel Racing Mania that was to be held this weekend May 2,3,4. It will be held on May 30,31, June1st in Broken Bow, NE. I need to get the word out so no one shows up not knowing it has been postponed.
We believe we have done the right thing and I hope everyone that was coming will support our decision and will be able to come play the end of May!
Thanks Martee Pruitt
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | LDH - 2014-04-29 5:42 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 3:39 PM Barrel Burning Chick - 2014-04-29 3:35 PM Very frustrating! If the people from the affected areas had stayed home till the quarantine period was done (April 23) instead of going to Lincoln would we even be having this discussion right now?! Prob not. I just wish people would have just stayed home. Now we are looking at who knows when till it's safe I feel for those who have lost their companions in this horrible outbreak. It just plain sucks. I attended a race in brookings last weekend and who knows how many of those horses were exposed at Lincoln. I'm also entered up at race for roses So I guess you should have stayed home from Brookings too. Don't start pointing fingers at those of us that went. Based on the logic that she should have stayed home from Brookings too, those of us that worry about our horses safety and follow the vets instructions would all never be running again. The no haul period was actually up on the 22nd of april. Vets were telling everyone to stay home until april 22nd,but after that, the travel ban was lifted and we were all told it was supposed to be safe again. No news of this horse getting sick was released until the 26th, which was the day that race was held in Brookings. If everyone would have followed the recommendations and stayed home until the 22nd, at least the people who were from the states that had had previous cases, I am sure we would not be having this talk right now. The race in Lincoln was held the 10th-13th. Everyone knew what was going on with EHV, at least people who are from the northern states, and they made the choice to haul horses to the race when vets were very clear about horses not traveling until the 22nd. So actually, I would be pointing fingers at the people who decided to go, and then decided to haul again to other races knowing that they traveled to a big race before it was safe to travel again. If that would have been me and I would have felt the need to go to Lincoln in the midst of an outbreak, I would have at least not hauled my horses anywhere after that until the 28 days that horses are supposed to be quarantined was up. Some of us gave up going to big races for the safety of our horses and others horses, and followed the vets instructions. Now we still have this whole mess because some people just could not for the life of them think of the big picture and just stay home for another few weeks. I understand that people had a lot of money invested into this race...but the fact that even after hauling to this race when vets made it clear that people were supposed to be staying home, people who went this race just kept hauling to other races and possibly infecting horses whose owners had followed the recommendations and stayed home until the 22nd, really makes me mad.
I went to Lincoln because I'm not in the hot zone and I haven't traveled after that. My point with my statement to Barrel Burning Chick was its total BS that someone has the balls to reprimand someone for going that just lost their horse.
I think another HUGE thing that causes so much controversy between us is no one seems to know the right and wrong. Some vets say its been around forever and to keep hauling, some vets are saying stay home. No one knows how to handle this IMO. |
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Location: sunny california | I think I would rather error on the side of caution |
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Location: North Dakota | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 7:27 AM
LDH - 2014-04-29 5:42 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 3:39 PM Barrel Burning Chick - 2014-04-29 3:35 PM Very frustrating! If the people from the affected areas had stayed home till the quarantine period was done (April 23) instead of going to Lincoln would we even be having this discussion right now?! Prob not. I just wish people would have just stayed home. Now we are looking at who knows when till it's safe I feel for those who have lost their companions in this horrible outbreak. It just plain sucks. I attended a race in brookings last weekend and who knows how many of those horses were exposed at Lincoln. I'm also entered up at race for roses So I guess you should have stayed home from Brookings too. Don't start pointing fingers at those of us that went. Based on the logic that she should have stayed home from Brookings too, those of us that worry about our horses safety and follow the vets instructions would all never be running again. The no haul period was actually up on the 22nd of april. Vets were telling everyone to stay home until april 22nd,but after that, the travel ban was lifted and we were all told it was supposed to be safe again. No news of this horse getting sick was released until the 26th, which was the day that race was held in Brookings. If everyone would have followed the recommendations and stayed home until the 22nd, at least the people who were from the states that had had previous cases, I am sure we would not be having this talk right now. The race in Lincoln was held the 10th-13th. Everyone knew what was going on with EHV, at least people who are from the northern states, and they made the choice to haul horses to the race when vets were very clear about horses not traveling until the 22nd. So actually, I would be pointing fingers at the people who decided to go, and then decided to haul again to other races knowing that they traveled to a big race before it was safe to travel again. If that would have been me and I would have felt the need to go to Lincoln in the midst of an outbreak, I would have at least not hauled my horses anywhere after that until the 28 days that horses are supposed to be quarantined was up. Some of us gave up going to big races for the safety of our horses and others horses, and followed the vets instructions. Now we still have this whole mess because some people just could not for the life of them think of the big picture and just stay home for another few weeks. I understand that people had a lot of money invested into this race...but the fact that even after hauling to this race when vets made it clear that people were supposed to be staying home, people who went this race just kept hauling to other races and possibly infecting horses whose owners had followed the recommendations and stayed home until the 22nd, really makes me mad.
I think another HUGE thing that causes so much controversy between us is no one seems to know the right and wrong. Some vets say its been around forever and to keep hauling, some vets are saying stay home. No one knows how to handle this IMO.
I don't think she was reprimanding the person who lost their horse since that person was not originally at risk. I think she was more on the lines just letting out her frustration on those that are in the hot zone and decided to haul anyways knowing darn well they could be spreading this crap. |
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Location: North Dakota | What also is confusing to others is when vets continue to haul to barrel races during this outbreak. People sometimes seem to think of vets as God and that they can do no wrong so if a vet hauls it must be ok to go.
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Out of respect to those who have lost their beloved horses including my friends Darby and her family please let's NOT point the finger at anyone.
There is a solution to this virus spreading further. Stay home. It's that simple.
Hugs and prayers to my friends who have lost loved horses. |
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| I really don't think it's anyones fault. If you have a horse that shows no symptoms AT ALL, how could you possibly know they were spreading it??
Hence the reason to stay home. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Gail - 2014-04-30 8:09 AM
Out of respect to those who have lost their beloved horses including my friends Darby and her family please let's NOT point the finger at anyone.
There is a solution to this virus spreading further. Stay home. It's that simple.
Hugs and prayers to my friends who have lost loved horses.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nateracer - 2014-04-30 8:15 AM I really don't think it's anyones fault. If you have a horse that shows no symptoms AT ALL, how could you possibly know they were spreading it??
Hence the reason to stay home. I want to give "kudos" to Rae here....She was at the BRF and instead of taking the "chance" of infecting or spreading the disease (even though her horses show NO symptoms), she has decided to STAY HOME from the Big J and away from other horses.....Good job, Rae......Now, if the producers would just WAKE UP and postpone some of these races, the "outbreak" may subside......
Edited by NJJ 2014-04-30 8:22 AM
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Location: North Dakota | I have no source of income right now because of this crap. No horses in or off my property so that means no training horses can come in, no horses will be sold, I cancelled clinics and lessons. I am a sitting duck just waiting for this to go away. I have a farrier/vet apt tomorrow but will probably be staying home even though they need to get done NOW and not 6 weeks from now. It also doesn't help any that my vet continues to haul to rodeos and big barrel races. I am just getting more and more frustrated the more I think about this.
So many of us are missing out on so much but it will all be in vain if not everyone can get on board and stay home. At this rate I will be broke in no time! Thank God my husband has a good job that can support us both especially if I am not hauling. But we can't get anything done around here if I don't get an income soon. This would be a perfect time to stay home and get some more stalls built, sand put in the roundpen, new arena put up, and more fencing done but we can't afford all that when I'm not making any money!!! I guess I better look at an in town job. |
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Location: North Dakota | A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! |
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Location: mn | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING!
I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. |
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Location: North Dakota | northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on.
The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. |
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Location: Kansas | Nateracer - 2014-04-30 8:15 AM I really don't think it's anyones fault. If you have a horse that shows no symptoms AT ALL, how could you possibly know they were spreading it??
Hence the reason to stay home.
Exactly. What I was reading on the University of Minnesota website last night is that almost all horses have the virus in its latent phase but stress activates it and allows them to shed it without showing signs. Scary stuff, even if it has been around forever. This seems to be a new strain of the virus that vets haven't quite figured out yet. I'm so glad everything in eastern Kansas is shut down this weekend and possibly longer so we all have time to learn about the outbreak and what precautions we should be taking when we do start hauling again. I have a call into my vet to discuss what I can do to protect my horses when we hit the road again in a few weeks. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on.
Messaged by Race for the Roses producers? |
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