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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Fun2Run - 2015-07-16 10:10 PM
Itsme - 2015-07-16 9:59 PM mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 9:47 PM Put her in a round pen and teach her how to keep moving with a tiedown. She needs one!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus stop lifting ride two handed then pull back not out. Your delay from lift to turn is to long. Have you trained winning horses, like futurity and rodeo type horses? Have they been quiet and lasted? Not being a smart a$$, just curious.  Yep, I'd say she's trained a winner or two.
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| Well ****, I didnt know you were Molli Montgomery. That stud horse at the BFA is a bad dude. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 10:43 PM
Itsme - 2015-07-16 9:59 PM
mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 9:47 PM
Put her in a round pen and teach her how to keep moving with a tiedown. She needs one!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus stop lifting ride two handed then pull back not out. Your delay from lift to turn is to long.
Have you trained winning horses, like futurity and rodeo type horses? Have they been quiet and lasted?
Not being a smart a$$, just curious.
Seems legit to me....lol.Neat about the tent, camper and Three Bars, Molli. I think I could listen to your stories all day. |
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| LRQHS - 2015-07-16 11:41 PM
mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 10:43 PM
Itsme - 2015-07-16 9:59 PM
mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 9:47 PM
Put her in a round pen and teach her how to keep moving with a tiedown. She needs one!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus stop lifting ride two handed then pull back not out. Your delay from lift to turn is to long.
Have you trained winning horses, like futurity and rodeo type horses? Have they been quiet and lasted?
Not being a smart a$$, just curious.
Seems legit to me....lol.Neat about the tent, camper and Three Bars, Molli. I think I could listen to your stories all day. 
Id send my daughter to train with her anytime. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Itsme - 2015-07-17 1:11 AM LRQHS - 2015-07-16 11:41 PM mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 10:43 PM Itsme - 2015-07-16 9:59 PM mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 9:47 PM Put her in a round pen and teach her how to keep moving with a tiedown. She needs one!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus stop lifting ride two handed then pull back not out. Your delay from lift to turn is to long. Have you trained winning horses, like futurity and rodeo type horses? Have they been quiet and lasted? Not being a smart a$$, just curious. Seems legit to me....lol.Neat about the tent, camper and Three Bars, Molli. I think I could listen to your stories all day. Id send my daughter to train with her anytime.
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| For the record, if that were my (daughters) horse it would still get more of a handle and NOT a tiedown. |
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Location: North Dakota | mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 10:36 PM Runninbay - 2015-07-16 10:29 PM mollibtexan - 2015-07-16 11:23 PM She asked for help just trying to give her some suggestions that could help her. I don't come on here to fight over my opinion or justify it. I know how frustrating it can be at times. I rarely read what others even post just try to help the poster if I can. I never claim to know everything bc I don't.
I understand but I think this is a training issue. It needs to be addressed before throwing a tie down on the mare as a temporary fix. I agree 100% but she said the horse is broke and moves off leg pressure and looks like has been running a while. I have no idea why everyone is so against tools that will help aid your horse I being successful. The horse can't even see the first barrel bc he is counting the lights in the arena....maybe if the horse could see the barrel she might have a better chance of turning it correctly.
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Location: Texas | Itsme - 2015-07-17 8:23 AM For the record, if that were my (daughters) horse it would still get more of a handle and NOT a tiedown.
Some horses, no matter how hard you try to "go back and put a handle" on them, will still run that way. Ya'll need to remember, barrel racing isn't dressage. |
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Location: Soon to be outta here:) | Personally I have no problem putting tie down or a martingale or any sort of tool on to help her if she needs it in the long run. I'm not saying I would throw one on her now and go run her and expect it to fix her. Obviously there is a lot more that needs taken care of and worked on, but if down the road she is broke as broke can be and working a beautiful pattern slowly and still wants to work but gets her face up when she runs and a tie down helps-I will have no problem putting her in one.
I have gotten a ton of helpful and great advice on here, I'm amazed by the help I got and I appreciate everyone who gave me advice and encouragement and things to work on with her! I have a plan of what I will do with her, and hopefully eventually I will be able to post a 'look how far we have come' post!!  |
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Location: Texas | Huge hugs! Just trying to help. Not trying to be a know it all by any means! I just felt called and and so I felt I needed to answer. |
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| Mind Bender - 2015-07-17 4:10 PM
Just visited with a BB in person who said I should read this...al I can say is "seriously?"
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| Itsme - 2015-07-17 8:23 AM
For the record, if that were my (daughters) horse it would still get more of a handle and NOT a tiedown.
For the record, have you trained winning horses like futurity and rodeo horses that were quiet and lasted?
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| bennie1 - 2015-07-17 4:31 PM
Itsme - 2015-07-17 8:23 AM
For the record, if that were my (daughters) horse it would still get more of a handle and NOT a tiedown.
For the record, have you trained winning horses like futurity and rodeo horses that were quiet and lasted?
Nope, never claimed I have and always post that I dont know much. I just what other trainers teach me and I was taught a tiedown doesnt solve a training issue and I still believe that. And yes, I would love for my daughter to learn from someone like Molli. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | As ol' Lafayette from True Blood might say, "Is you a real trainer?" Lol |
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| Itsme - 2015-07-17 5:03 PM
bennie1 - 2015-07-17 4:31 PM
Itsme - 2015-07-17 8:23 AM
For the record, if that were my (daughters) horse it would still get more of a handle and NOT a tiedown.
For the record, have you trained winning horses like futurity and rodeo horses that were quiet and lasted?
Nope, never claimed I have and always post that I dont know much. I just what other trainers teach me and I was taught a tiedown doesnt solve a training issue and I still believe that. And yes, I would love for my daughter to learn from someone like Molli.
I don't know Molly personally, I'm just a 'fan'.
She showed she has class with her straightforward answers on this thread.
I think you, Itsme, like to come here and post semi outrageous statements to rile everyone on this board up for your own amusement.
I find that annoying.
I also think there is a difference between theoretical knowledge and practical application. |
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| bennie1 - 2015-07-17 5:21 PM
Itsme - 2015-07-17 5:03 PM
bennie1 - 2015-07-17 4:31 PM
Itsme - 2015-07-17 8:23 AM
For the record, if that were my (daughters) horse it would still get more of a handle and NOT a tiedown.
For the record, have you trained winning horses like futurity and rodeo horses that were quiet and lasted?
Nope, never claimed I have and always post that I dont know much. I just what other trainers teach me and I was taught a tiedown doesnt solve a training issue and I still believe that. And yes, I would love for my daughter to learn from someone like Molli.
I don't know Molly personally, I'm just a 'fan'.
She showed she has class with her straightforward answers on this thread.
I think you, Itsme, like to come here and post semi outrageous statements to rile everyone on this board up for your own amusement.
I find that annoying.
I also think there is a difference between theoretical knowledge and practical application.
ummm, cool? |
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