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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-10-19 9:54 AM
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So this Hillary/DNC bus in Georgia pulls to the side of the road in Georgia and brazenly dumps its raw sewage into a storm drain.
It's caught on camera.

The DNC rapid response team goes into action and issued an apology, stating it was "an HONEST MISTAKE". No, it wasn't honest....they just got caught. No, it wasn't a "mistake". A "mistake" is when you fart and sneeze at the same time during a sermon in church.
This whole incident is just precious because it's so symbolic. It illustrates the hypocrisy and arrogance of this bunch of elite criminal organization. Let's see if the liberal environmental whacko lemmings express their outrage. Just like blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, LGBT's, and women, they too are merely tools for the power hungry Progressive-liberal elitists.

"A picture paints a thousand words."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/18/democratic-campaign-bus-dumps-...
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
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Bear - 2016-10-19 9:54 AM So this Hillary/DNC bus in Georgia pulls to the side of the road in Georgia and brazenly dumps its raw sewage into a storm drain. It's caught on camera. The DNC rapid response team goes into action and issued an apology, stating it was "an HONEST MISTAKE". No, it wasn't honest....they just got caught. No, it wasn't a "mistake". A "mistake" is when you fart and sneeze at the same time during a sermon in church. This whole incident is just precious because it's so symbolic. It illustrates the hypocrisy and arrogance of this bunch of elite criminal organization. Let's see if the liberal environmental whacko lemmings express their outrage. Just like blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, LGBT's, and women, they too are merely tools for the power hungry Progressive-liberal elitists. "A picture paints a thousand words." http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/18/democratic-campaign-bus-dumps-...
They wont. They will ignore it just like they ignore everything else truthful.  
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-10-19 10:11 AM
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slacy09 - 2016-10-19 10:36 AM
ThreeCorners - 2016-10-18 11:35 AM
Reester - 2016-10-18 10:30 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society.
You are not alone Bear, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 Right there with you guys. Literally makes me ill.
With ya'll too!!!!  Vickie I will remember your attitude during this....if Hillary gets elected and our country unravels around us,  I'll be sure to remind you of your statements!!!  

Fair enough.  As long as we are at it, how many guns did Obama take away?  My turn to say I told you so. 
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2016-10-19 10:12 AM
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Bear with me:
A few problems I see with today's generation: The government controls what our schools teach. We have high school seniors who can recite Pathogoreans Theorem, but can't iron, balance a check book, or calculate interest on a loan. They don't realize that the $16,000 car they just financed with 20% interest will end up costing over $30,000 by the end of the loan. And they wonder why they can't trade it in when the 36,000 mile warranty goes out and their car dies. (Note to all buy a hyundai if you buy a new car. 10 yr 100k warranty LOL)   

I see friends who are working moms, who have husbands that make at least $15-$17 an hour here in TX who have cried repeatedly while trying to hide their food card at the grocery store. It kills them to be on welfare. But they literally cannot afford food for their family. The father's checks can't pay the bills and the mother's entire paycheck pays for the kids to be in daycare while she works a mediocre job trying to help out. Why? Because no one ever taught them to budget, to plan ahead, to not buy the $60,000 vehicle on 20% interest. To save and buy the pick up for $3500 because it would work just fine. Sure, new vehicles have less maintenece... In the beginning. Once that warranty goes out tho, they have a truck payment and repair bills.  No one every taught them to invest in their future with a saving's account. No one ever taught them to do any of that. So when the oilfield crashed, they crashed too. 

The bigger picture here is people are uneducated. Our schools have failed our society. Our parents have failed their children. To me, it isn't solely the school's responsibility to teach your child. Sure, they may need to know algebra and spelling. That's basic. When was the last time you sat down with your children and taught them how their government worked? When's the last time you attended a town hall meeting as a family? When did you sit down as a family and explain that your child's vote as an adult in an election as little as a county election could influence and snowball effect something as large as a presidential nomination? Does your child know the branches of government? Can they explain in detail the job of each branch? Can they tell you term limits and view points of all the government officials we have appointed? All these people wanting to blame our schools and our government for the pickle we are in don't realize that it is their responsibility as a parent to teach their children about LIFE. Instead they blame others. If you see gaps in your children's education, fill them. Don't complain about them. Home is a school too. Children learn a lot more from you than you'd like to believe. 

My parents were not perfect and I realize that most adults can't even do what is written above. Don't be lazy. Invest in your children. Invest in your family. Invest in your siblings, your parents, your friends. Teach the next generation! 


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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2016-10-19 10:14 AM
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Has any of the liberals actually thought about her policies. There are so many I just shake my head at. Lets look at her 65% death tax! Why on earth would anybody vote for that? Here is a news flash...when you vote for a candidate, you are voting for their policies!! We can sure go through them one by one.  Do you really not want to inherite anything? Do you really not want your kids to inherite anything? She wants to tax 65% of the estate! Leaving you with 35% untaxed. MOST will not be able to afford that tax and the assets will have to be liquidated! Even though, that money that bought and paid for that estate, property, equipment,livestock,house,cars,everything, was ALREADY taxed and so was/is the goods!  Ranches who have been in the family for generations will no longer be able to be passed down because the kids will not be able to pay the tax! So incredably wrong.
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Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2016-10-19 10:16 AM
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IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-19 9:12 AM Bear with me:

A few problems I see with today's generation: The government controls what our schools teach. We have high school senior who can receite Pathogoreans Theorem, but can't iron, balance a check book, or calculate interest on a loan. THey don't realize that the $16,000 car they just financed with 20% interest will end up costing over $30,000 by the end of the loan. And they wonder why they can't trade it in when the 36,000 mile warranty goes out and their car dies. (Note to all buy a hyundai if you buy a new car. 10 yr 100k warranty LOL)   



I see friends who are working moms, who have husbands that make at least $15-$17 an hour here in TX who have cried repeatedly while trying to hide their food card at the grocery store. It kills them to be on welfare. But they literaslly cannot afford food for their family. The father's checks can't pay the bills and the mother's entire paycheck pays for the kids to be in daycare while she works a mediocre job trying to help out. Why? Because no one ever taught them to budget, to plan ahead, to not buy the $60,000 vehicle on 20% interest. To save and buy the pick up for $3500 because it would work just fine. Sure, new vehicles have less maintenece... In the beginning. Once that warranty goes out tho, they have a truck payment and repair bills.  No one every taught them to invest in their future with a saving's account. No one ever taught them to do any of that. So when the oilfield crashed, they crashed too. 



The bigger picture here is people are uneducated. Our schools have failed our society. Our parents have failed their children. To me, it isn't solely the school's responsibility to teach your child. Sure, they may need to know algebra and spelling. That's basic. When was the last time you sat down with your children and taught them how I government worked? When's the last time you attending a town hall meeting as a family? When did you sit down as a family and explain that your childs vote as an adult in an election as little as a county election could influence and snowball effect something as large as a presidential nomination? Does your child know the branches of government? Can they explain in detail the job of each branch? Can they tell you term limits and view points of all the government officials we have appointed? All these people wanting to blame our schools and our government for the pickle we are in don't realize that it is their responsibility as a parent to teach their children about LIFE. Instead they blame others. If you see gaps in your children's education, fill them. Don't complain about them. Home is a school too. Children learn a lot more from you than you'd like to believe. 



My parents were not perfect and I realize that most adults can't even do what is written above. Don't be lazy. invest in your children. Invest in your family. Invest in your siblings, your parents, your friends. Teach the next generation! 

While working in the classroom (I'm in the library now) I found that so many parents could not seem to grasp this. They looked to the school to fix the holes in their parenting/home life.
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2016-10-19 10:18 AM
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Vickie - 2016-10-19 10:11 AM
slacy09 - 2016-10-19 10:36 AM
ThreeCorners - 2016-10-18 11:35 AM
Reester - 2016-10-18 10:30 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society.
You are not alone Bear, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 Right there with you guys. Literally makes me ill.
With ya'll too!!!!  Vickie I will remember your attitude during this....if Hillary gets elected and our country unravels around us,  I'll be sure to remind you of your statements!!!  
Fair enough.  As long as we are at it, how many guns did Obama take away?  My turn to say I told you so. 

Your argument is invalid. Ask a Soldier, a Marine, a Sailor, or any other armed force or service memeber your question. You may be surprised. No, he didn't take OUR guns, he took their equipments and their guns....  

 
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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2016-10-19 10:20 AM
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Vickie - 2016-10-19 10:11 AM
slacy09 - 2016-10-19 10:36 AM
ThreeCorners - 2016-10-18 11:35 AM
Reester - 2016-10-18 10:30 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society.
You are not alone Bear, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 Right there with you guys. Literally makes me ill.
With ya'll too!!!!  Vickie I will remember your attitude during this....if Hillary gets elected and our country unravels around us,  I'll be sure to remind you of your statements!!!  
Fair enough.  As long as we are at it, how many guns did Obama take away?  My turn to say I told you so. 

How many would he take away if he had congressional or judicial support? 
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2016-10-19 10:25 AM
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Vickie - 2016-10-19 10:11 AM
slacy09 - 2016-10-19 10:36 AM
ThreeCorners - 2016-10-18 11:35 AM
Reester - 2016-10-18 10:30 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society.
You are not alone Bear, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 Right there with you guys. Literally makes me ill.
With ya'll too!!!!  Vickie I will remember your attitude during this....if Hillary gets elected and our country unravels around us,  I'll be sure to remind you of your statements!!!  
Fair enough.  As long as we are at it, how many guns did Obama take away?  My turn to say I told you so. 

Dont think for one minute he hasnt tried! The supreme court held up our second ammendment! However, Hillary is going to by pass the second ammendment and she has vowed to repeal the law that prevents anybody from sueing the gun manufacturers! This will put them out of business in short order and there wont be a insurance company that will insure them because they know they will be sued!  She wont have to go after the second ammendment. She'll just put them out of business and then attack the ammo.  
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-10-19 10:27 AM
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IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-19 10:12 AM Bear with me:

A few problems I see with today's generation: The government controls what our schools teach. We have high school seniors who can recite Pathogoreans Theorem, but can't iron, balance a check book, or calculate interest on a loan. They don't realize that the $16,000 car they just financed with 20% interest will end up costing over $30,000 by the end of the loan. And they wonder why they can't trade it in when the 36,000 mile warranty goes out and their car dies. (Note to all buy a hyundai if you buy a new car. 10 yr 100k warranty LOL)   



I see friends who are working moms, who have husbands that make at least $15-$17 an hour here in TX who have cried repeatedly while trying to hide their food card at the grocery store. It kills them to be on welfare. But they literally cannot afford food for their family. The father's checks can't pay the bills and the mother's entire paycheck pays for the kids to be in daycare while she works a mediocre job trying to help out. Why? Because no one ever taught them to budget, to plan ahead, to not buy the $60,000 vehicle on 20% interest. To save and buy the pick up for $3500 because it would work just fine. Sure, new vehicles have less maintenece... In the beginning. Once that warranty goes out tho, they have a truck payment and repair bills.  No one every taught them to invest in their future with a saving's account. No one ever taught them to do any of that. So when the oilfield crashed, they crashed too. 



The bigger picture here is people are uneducated. Our schools have failed our society. Our parents have failed their children. To me, it isn't solely the school's responsibility to teach your child. Sure, they may need to know algebra and spelling. That's basic. When was the last time you sat down with your children and taught them how their government worked? When's the last time you attended a town hall meeting as a family? When did you sit down as a family and explain that your child's vote as an adult in an election as little as a county election could influence and snowball effect something as large as a presidential nomination? Does your child know the branches of government? Can they explain in detail the job of each branch? Can they tell you term limits and view points of all the government officials we have appointed? All these people wanting to blame our schools and our government for the pickle we are in don't realize that it is their responsibility as a parent to teach their children about LIFE. Instead they blame others. If you see gaps in your children's education, fill them. Don't complain about them. Home is a school too. Children learn a lot more from you than you'd like to believe. 



My parents were not perfect and I realize that most adults can't even do what is written above. Don't be lazy. Invest in your children. Invest in your family. Invest in your siblings, your parents, your friends. Teach the next generation! 

I love the part where you said if you see gaps in your child's education, fill them at home.  That's one reason homeschooling is getting more popular. Parents got tired of sending them to school for 7 hours a day and then having to educate them at home too because they weren't getting what they needed.  And that's not a slam on teachers, that's a slam on the system that politicians have created.
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2016-10-19 10:34 AM
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Vickie - 2016-10-19 10:11 AM

slacy09 - 2016-10-19 10:36 AM
ThreeCorners - 2016-10-18 11:35 AM
Reester - 2016-10-18 10:30 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society.
You are not alone Bear, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Β Right there with you guys. Literally makes me ill.
With ya'll too!!!! Β Vickie I will remember your attitude during this....if Hillary gets elected and our country unravels around us, Β I'll be sure to remind you of your statements!!! Β 

Fair enough.Β  As long as we are at it, how manyΒ guns did Obama take away?Β  My turn to say I told you so.Β 

A more accurate question to You Vickie is: How many Americans Health Insurance Coverage has been effected positively by Obamacare (Affordable Care Act)?
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-10-19 10:37 AM
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Vickie - 2016-10-19 11:11 AM
slacy09 - 2016-10-19 10:36 AM
ThreeCorners - 2016-10-18 11:35 AM
Reester - 2016-10-18 10:30 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society.
You are not alone Bear, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 Right there with you guys. Literally makes me ill.
With ya'll too!!!!  Vickie I will remember your attitude during this....if Hillary gets elected and our country unravels around us,  I'll be sure to remind you of your statements!!!  
Fair enough.  As long as we are at it, how many guns did Obama take away?  My turn to say I told you so. 

 how so?

They tried every blasted thing that they could, up to and including ammo supply manipulation. 

The only reason he didn't get them was because of a GOP lead congress. 

Not sure if that counts as a "gotcha"


 
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-10-19 10:44 AM
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IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-19 11:12 AM Bear with me:

A few problems I see with today's generation: The government controls what our schools teach. We have high school seniors who can recite Pathogoreans Theorem, but can't iron, balance a check book, or calculate interest on a loan. They don't realize that the $16,000 car they just financed with 20% interest will end up costing over $30,000 by the end of the loan. And they wonder why they can't trade it in when the 36,000 mile warranty goes out and their car dies. (Note to all buy a hyundai if you buy a new car. 10 yr 100k warranty LOL)   



I see friends who are working moms, who have husbands that make at least $15-$17 an hour here in TX who have cried repeatedly while trying to hide their food card at the grocery store. It kills them to be on welfare. But they literally cannot afford food for their family. The father's checks can't pay the bills and the mother's entire paycheck pays for the kids to be in daycare while she works a mediocre job trying to help out. Why? Because no one ever taught them to budget, to plan ahead, to not buy the $60,000 vehicle on 20% interest. To save and buy the pick up for $3500 because it would work just fine. Sure, new vehicles have less maintenece... In the beginning. Once that warranty goes out tho, they have a truck payment and repair bills.  No one every taught them to invest in their future with a saving's account. No one ever taught them to do any of that. So when the oilfield crashed, they crashed too. 



The bigger picture here is people are uneducated. Our schools have failed our society. Our parents have failed their children. To me, it isn't solely the school's responsibility to teach your child. Sure, they may need to know algebra and spelling. That's basic. When was the last time you sat down with your children and taught them how their government worked? When's the last time you attended a town hall meeting as a family? When did you sit down as a family and explain that your child's vote as an adult in an election as little as a county election could influence and snowball effect something as large as a presidential nomination? Does your child know the branches of government? Can they explain in detail the job of each branch? Can they tell you term limits and view points of all the government officials we have appointed? All these people wanting to blame our schools and our government for the pickle we are in don't realize that it is their responsibility as a parent to teach their children about LIFE. Instead they blame others. If you see gaps in your children's education, fill them. Don't complain about them. Home is a school too. Children learn a lot more from you than you'd like to believe. 



My parents were not perfect and I realize that most adults can't even do what is written above. Don't be lazy. Invest in your children. Invest in your family. Invest in your siblings, your parents, your friends. Teach the next generation! 

I don't disagree with anything you said here.

But I have to ask. When and why does this become societies responsiblity? 

THere used to be, and there should be consequences for doing dumb things. Stupid should hurt. And if the Gov. bails you out when you do dumb sheet there is no motivation to learn not to be dumb.

It's tough, harsh, calloused, I realize that. But it's also the truth. 

As I stated earlier in this thread, hunger is inspirational.  
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-10-19 10:54 AM
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Wow, you Trumpettes have an excuse for everything.  Obama didn't take your guns, but you are sure it is just because the valiant and brave GOP stopped him.  Can you ever admit you were wrong?  Wait, your candidate can't, why would you. 
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Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-10-19 10:54 AM
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-19 11:27 AM
IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-19 10:12 AM Bear with me:

A few problems I see with today's generation: The government controls what our schools teach. We have high school seniors who can recite Pathogoreans Theorem, but can't iron, balance a check book, or calculate interest on a loan. They don't realize that the $16,000 car they just financed with 20% interest will end up costing over $30,000 by the end of the loan. And they wonder why they can't trade it in when the 36,000 mile warranty goes out and their car dies. (Note to all buy a hyundai if you buy a new car. 10 yr 100k warranty LOL)   



I see friends who are working moms, who have husbands that make at least $15-$17 an hour here in TX who have cried repeatedly while trying to hide their food card at the grocery store. It kills them to be on welfare. But they literally cannot afford food for their family. The father's checks can't pay the bills and the mother's entire paycheck pays for the kids to be in daycare while she works a mediocre job trying to help out. Why? Because no one ever taught them to budget, to plan ahead, to not buy the $60,000 vehicle on 20% interest. To save and buy the pick up for $3500 because it would work just fine. Sure, new vehicles have less maintenece... In the beginning. Once that warranty goes out tho, they have a truck payment and repair bills.  No one every taught them to invest in their future with a saving's account. No one ever taught them to do any of that. So when the oilfield crashed, they crashed too. 



The bigger picture here is people are uneducated. Our schools have failed our society. Our parents have failed their children. To me, it isn't solely the school's responsibility to teach your child. Sure, they may need to know algebra and spelling. That's basic. When was the last time you sat down with your children and taught them how their government worked? When's the last time you attended a town hall meeting as a family? When did you sit down as a family and explain that your child's vote as an adult in an election as little as a county election could influence and snowball effect something as large as a presidential nomination? Does your child know the branches of government? Can they explain in detail the job of each branch? Can they tell you term limits and view points of all the government officials we have appointed? All these people wanting to blame our schools and our government for the pickle we are in don't realize that it is their responsibility as a parent to teach their children about LIFE. Instead they blame others. If you see gaps in your children's education, fill them. Don't complain about them. Home is a school too. Children learn a lot more from you than you'd like to believe. 



My parents were not perfect and I realize that most adults can't even do what is written above. Don't be lazy. Invest in your children. Invest in your family. Invest in your siblings, your parents, your friends. Teach the next generation! 
I love the part where you said if you see gaps in your child's education, fill them at home.  That's one reason homeschooling is getting more popular. Parents got tired of sending them to school for 7 hours a day and then having to educate them at home too because they weren't getting what they needed.  And that's not a slam on teachers, that's a slam on the system that politicians have created.

Teachers in a regular public school can't teach anymore - they have to deal with the monsters the parents at home are creating.  

As far as being mentioned about hunger - yep it is a great motivator - I know for a fact and learned quite quickly I surely didn't want that as soon as I could leave home and make it on my own.  I had great parents, I could never complain.  We were just poor.   
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-10-19 11:00 AM
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Vickie - 2016-10-19 10:54 AM Wow, you Trumpettes have an excuse for everything.  Obama didn't take your guns, but you are sure it is just because the valiant and brave GOP stopped him.  Can you ever admit you were wrong?  Wait, your candidate can't, why would you. 

Obama was pretty open with what he WANTED to do vs what he was able to do.  Killary hasn't pulled any punches either.  We all know what her intentions are because she told us, and I'm not ok with them. 
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-10-19 11:05 AM
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Vickie - 2016-10-19 11:54 AM Wow, you Trumpettes have an excuse for everything.  Obama didn't take your guns, but you are sure it is just because the valiant and brave GOP stopped him.  Can you ever admit you were wrong?  Wait, your candidate can't, why would you. 

I have found is is exceptionally hard to admit you are wrong, when you are right.


The overwhelming preponderance of evidence shows that the Liberal adminstration did everything in their power to enact gun laws. 

Your president has even admitted that one of his biggest regrets is not being able to enact gun laws.  
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Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2016-10-19 11:20 AM
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IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-19 11:12 AM Bear with me:
A few problems I see with today's generation: The government controls what our schools teach. We have high school seniors who can recite Pathogoreans Theorem, but can't iron, balance a check book, or calculate interest on a loan. They don't realize that the $16,000 car they just financed with 20% interest will end up costing over $30,000 by the end of the loan. And they wonder why they can't trade it in when the 36,000 mile warranty goes out and their car dies. (Note to all buy a hyundai if you buy a new car. 10 yr 100k warranty LOL)   

I see friends who are working moms, who have husbands that make at least $15-$17 an hour here in TX who have cried repeatedly while trying to hide their food card at the grocery store. It kills them to be on welfare. But they literally cannot afford food for their family. The father's checks can't pay the bills and the mother's entire paycheck pays for the kids to be in daycare while she works a mediocre job trying to help out. Why? Because no one ever taught them to budget, to plan ahead, to not buy the $60,000 vehicle on 20% interest. To save and buy the pick up for $3500 because it would work just fine. Sure, new vehicles have less maintenece... In the beginning. Once that warranty goes out tho, they have a truck payment and repair bills.  No one every taught them to invest in their future with a saving's account. No one ever taught them to do any of that. So when the oilfield crashed, they crashed too. 

The bigger picture here is people are uneducated. Our schools have failed our society. Our parents have failed their children. To me, it isn't solely the school's responsibility to teach your child. Sure, they may need to know algebra and spelling. That's basic. When was the last time you sat down with your children and taught them how their government worked? When's the last time you attended a town hall meeting as a family? When did you sit down as a family and explain that your child's vote as an adult in an election as little as a county election could influence and snowball effect something as large as a presidential nomination? Does your child know the branches of government? Can they explain in detail the job of each branch? Can they tell you term limits and view points of all the government officials we have appointed? All these people wanting to blame our schools and our government for the pickle we are in don't realize that it is their responsibility as a parent to teach their children about LIFE. Instead they blame others. If you see gaps in your children's education, fill them. Don't complain about them. Home is a school too. Children learn a lot more from you than you'd like to believe. 

My parents were not perfect and I realize that most adults can't even do what is written above. Don't be lazy. Invest in your children. Invest in your family. Invest in your siblings, your parents, your friends. Teach the next generation! 
I don't disagree with anything you said here.

But I have to ask. When and why does this become societies responsiblity? 

THere used to be, and there should be consequences for doing dumb things. Stupid should hurt. And if the Gov. bails you out when you do dumb sheet there is no motivation to learn not to be dumb.

It's tough, harsh, calloused, I realize that. But it's also the truth. 

As I stated earlier in this thread, hunger is inspirational.  
 I don't want to make it societies responsibility. I was pointing out that their parents and the government run school system failed to show them the basics of living life. ie how to balance finances, read a loan, calculate a loan, etc. Their children suffer because of it and they are on welfare because of it. 
If we want to fix the money problems, the welfare problems, and the debt problems, we have to fix our education at home. It starts with the parents. The parents are the forfront of education. The parents can change their children's and grand children's lives. 

We also have a friend who is 25, owns his own home (no mortgage) and owns his own vehicles. He literally has no debt. His single mother showed him finances and taught him how to save every penny. He credits her alone for everything he has. He;s in the process of getting her out of debt. It's all in what you know and how educated you are. 

I myself have experienced the harsh realities of life and while I don't believe these people should be coddled, I do believe they were failed as a whole as far as education goes.  Sure, you live and you learn but society as a whole would be much better if we educated people about life before they graduated. Yes, they may fail but at least they couldn't fail because they didn't know.

ETA: You r actions are only stupid if you know you shouldn't do something and you do it anyway. Their actions are stupid to people who know that 20% interest is well, stupid. They didn't know. Neither one knew what 20% interest meant. They cannot make stupid decisions if they are genuinely uneducated about it. 


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Vickie - 2016-10-19 10:54 AM

Wow, you Trumpettes have an excuse for everything.Β  Obama didn't take your guns, but you are sure it is just because the valiant and brave GOP stopped him.Β  Can you ever admit you were wrong?Β  Wait, your candidate can't, why would you.Β 

That sounds a little like the pot calling the kettle black...

Did I miss HC say that she was wrong about all those emails OR the Benghazi attack? Nah... I didn't think I missed it... just your wishful thinking, or you truly don't believe she did anything wrong. Which is it???

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Vickie - 2016-10-19 9:54 AM Wow, you Trumpettes have an excuse for everything.  Obama didn't take your guns, but you are sure it is just because the valiant and brave GOP stopped him.  Can you ever admit you were wrong?  Wait, your candidate can't, why would you. 

And people with conservative views  are the rude judemental jerks?  I get there is heated debate on this thread and a lot of fact vs. fiction going on, but that was a bit of a personal attack on these ladies and was quite frankly uncalled for. 
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