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| We are evidently on opposite sides of the political spectrum, but the measured and thoughtful expression of your view points is refreshing. Thank you. Yes, we must not loose our compassion no matter what. | |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 8:44 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-12-03 7:31 PM DaveM - 2018-12-03 3:01 PM  Scott, I agree with so much that you say, BUT disagreement is allowed and name calling is discouraged. ( I saw your "Troll" comment.)  Also, I like non-horse topics and think we should keep them. I want to know what my horse community thinks - about everything. It makes this life, and this board, so much more interesting.
SO, don't terrify everyone you don't agree with in your posts - using your superior intellect and supportive logic. Most don't stand a chance with you.  We won't have any one left to argue with! I want to encourage AND respect ALL viewpoints. And I hope everyone else feels the same. If what someone says on here disgusts you, report it and move to another topic. We will not let trolls and gremlins take over our board, or stifle our differences either!
Merry Christmas, BTW.
Fee free to disagree with me. Peace  
 Thanks to you and Miss Gail for this site and letting us have our say, and only stepping in when absolutely necessary. And I agree, Bear scares me too 
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FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have?
I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc.
And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you? | |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Mecon - 2018-12-06 6:13 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM
FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have?
I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc.
And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
You're 100 times more likely to be shot by a gun tot'in liberal. Fact. But we do agree on one thing. It's NOT the gun that does the killing. It's the person.
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Location: Montgomery TX | Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:13 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM
FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have?
I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc.
And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
The illegal immigrants (plural because they travel in packs) that walked into my house when I was 8 months pregnant with my son met the business end of my 9mm. Despite the language barrier, they knew they were not supposed to be there. The next night while we were out, our house was robbed. Coincident? I think not. They are called "illegal" immigrants for a reason - they are breaking the law, knowingly breaking the law. | |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Mecon - 2018-12-06 7:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have? I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc. And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
No I wouldn't. I would call our local authorities and let them deal with them if they stuck around long enough at the door for the police or ICE to show up. In this day and age you never know what kind of crazies are out there. | |
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Location: OH | Mecon - 2018-12-06 9:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have? I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc. And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
Question---this is not being condescending but if you help a person that is an ILLEGAL immigrant, are you therefore breaking the law by harboring a criminal ? | |
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM
FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have?
I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc.
And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Mecon. To answer your other question. I would NOT let anyone in my door that I don't know. It doesn't matter their nationality. Period.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have? I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc. And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
Where do you live? You have no clue what a illegal could do to you, when they break into your home to go threw it and steal from you, mostly its for food but alot of times it can turn deadly for the home owner if they are there at the time of a break in.. My neighbor she lived alone and was murdered and raped by no telling how many of the illegals that broke into her home, two of her trucks were missing, her adult daughter found her.. A friends mother was mudered by illegals on their family ranch she lived alone in La Joya Texas, her son found her, another friend lost his father to illegals while checking fence.. I use to give food and water to illegals when they came threw our land, but that was many many years ago befor all the bad started happening, there use to be good but now adays you have so many gang members that would kill you on the spot.. I stoped being nice after they found my neighbor, when I saw any coming {but alot of times you dont see them untill its to late and they catch you off guard} I would tell them to keep walking and then I would call Border Patrol I was lucky that I never had to deal with a bad one.. And yes I and hubby are gun owners and a member of the NRA..Â
You and Meep.Meep have the same view on these Illegals and I hope that you never have to deal with any that may or could break into your home.. They dont care who you are, if they come/break into your home and you are there you have better say a prayer.. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have? I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc. And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
Oh and on your question about them knocking on a door and letting them in, where I'm from they dont knock they just break in. But since you really want to help them call any place in a Sanctuary city and tell them you would like to take some in, they would take you up on the offer. | |
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM
FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have?
I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc.
And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-07 2:50 PM
Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have? I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc. And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
You and Meep.Meep have the same view on these Illegals and I hope that you never have to deal with any that may or could break into your home.. They dont care who you are, if they come/break into your home and you are there you have better say a prayer..Â
You sure have a chip on your shoulder for me. What's the deal? I do NOT think that people should be coming here illegally. I think I already said that before? But do I think they are ALL evil? No. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jbhoot - 2018-12-07 3:41 PM Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:13 PM ] I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc. And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you? So your profile says you are Mrs. Fred Berfel or did you lie when filled it out?
Fred Berfel was the neighbor of the Farkel's of the Rowan & Martin Show .... am I showing my age? LOL  | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:13 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM
FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have?
I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc.
And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
I’m guessing you don’t live close to the southern border. Maybe you live somewhere like northern Minnesota. I do appreciate your honesty in revealing your fear that someone from BHW would actually hunt you down and shoot you like a dog. In spite of those heartfelt concerns regarding racist, xenophobic, anti-immigration, gun toting, bible loving, toothless right wingers, your unquenchable thirst for equine enlightenment exceeds your fears. Your courage, in the face of such danger is truly an inspiration to your ilk. Lord knows
liberal progressives in the past have had to endure similar risks of bodily harm, or worse.
Since you fear for your life, I’ll assign you a name. How does “Kim” sound? Isn’t that better than Mrs Fred Berfels? | |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have? I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc. And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
By reading, I do not think you live any where near the border. I have lived in TX for the past 5 years. I am a Republican/Conservative...whatever. I am a Texan at heart...it suited me to live here.
I think it is way harder to get just a drives license here. I have received a license in 3 other states fairly easily. All I had to do was provide my current license and maybe take a written test. In Texas, I had to PROVE an original birth certificate, provide TWO original marriage licenses and an original SS card. ALL this just to PROVE that I was an American Citizen and actually BORN here. So forgive me, if I am not forgiving of ILLEGALs! I am PRO immigration...if done LEGALLY.
Also, the Caravan....is not full of political refugees. They are ECONOMIC refugees and DO NOT qualify for political asylum. Of those that actually show up for their court date based this nutty, crazy 'catch/release' rule, 90% are deported.
To to respond to your 'gun common sense'....
Contrary to what many think, the “AR” in AR-15 does not stand for “Assault Rifle.” Neither does it stand for “Automatic Rearming,” “Armed Retiree” or even “Auntie Ruth.” It simply stands for ArmaLite Rifle 15, the company from which it was born. It's how this arms manufacturer named its products.
I intentionally put that in a different font as it is VERY common mistake. Congress 'highjacked' the initials for 'AR' back in the 90's when they did the 'Assault Rifle' Ban. That Ban lasted about 10 years because it did not work by stats and was repealed.
An AR-15 is NOT an automatic weapon nor is it military. I hear this crap all the time and all over the news. I am so sick of people hacking about guns that haven't held one and/or know NOTHING about them....other than ALL guns are evil. People are evil, guns are not. Automatic weapons were done away a long time ago. It is modeled after the military style weapon...yes. The STYLE of it. The military weapon was actually an AR-10 with 3 different settings all the way up to automatic.
The AR-15 is SEMI-AUTOMATIC....just like a 9mm Handgun. That means the guy at Sandyhook that killed all those little kids...HAD to pull the trigger each and time he pointed the gun at each little kid. A person does NOT hold the trigger down and SPRAY bullets as in the movies. The 'Bumpstock' that was used in Las Vegas was illegal because he modified the gun to become illegal. Try and legislate that. Better start with the internet, because it's out there on how to make it illegal. You cannot even fire 10 shots on a legal AR-15 without the barrel getting way too hot to hold. I could go on and on. The Lakeland School Shooting was done by a Shotgun and a Revolver. And I am assuming you know the difference.
Have you EVER tried to buy ANY gun? 99% of gun sales go through an FBI background check. That is including the ever popular gun shows.
I agree that that you shouldn't let a nut job get a gun. However, what exactly is a nut job? How do you legislate or regulate a nut job? Is your definition the same as mine? Is that any person that has been on Prozac or been to a shrink? Or is it every military person that comes back with PTSD? And with all those questions, you need to prohibit their family members living with them as well because they can't have a gun in the household. I don't really know what the EXACT definition of nut job is. But as the all knowing Senator said from Hawaii this week...we know so very much, we have to tell people just how smart we are. She is different for sure.
I hope I said it all correctly and clearly. But flame away if you want. I had just had it and was done with the misconceptions and thinking it is all so easy. 
Edited by Gator Bug 2018-12-09 4:33 AM
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| Gator Bug - 2018-12-08 5:02 PM Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-03 9:12 AM FLITASTIC - 2018-12-03 9:00 AM Mecon - 2018-12-02 6:15 PM Mecon - 2018-12-02 7:33 PM Bear - 2018-12-02 5:42 AM Like I said she’s a troll. Ironic how she decries politics on this forum yet every one of her posts has been of a political nature. Not one single post about anything other than to lambaste or lampoon conservatives. Then she turns around and has the audacity to suggest posts ought to be limited to horses and barrel racing. I predict now she will make an occasional post about barrel racing just to blend in better. Even her political posts steer clear of specific issues like taxes, social security, sanctuary cities, etc.... She’s only here for one reason. You really don’t understand. I most certainly do not wish to “blend in” with persons who espouse your political viewpoints. I oppose them. Further, fortunately it is not up to you how I enjoy this forum. As I said before, the horse topics I read with great pleasure, very little to add there. It is also with great pleasure I express my opinions in op position to political posts I find objectionable. There is no shortage of sarcasm and vilification in many of these posts, one of which suggested the remedy for liberals was “hot lead.” That no one in that particular thread seemed alarmed by this speaks volumes. So if my responses are satirical and pointed, well too bad. If you don’t like what I have to say, “don’t read it.” .....good for the goose, good for the gander.... Curious though: what do you fantasize is “the one reason” I am here for? Just to trigger you? Fun as that may be, it is not my central purpose at all. I happen to love horses. Do you? But I fail to mention: my view on 1. ) taxes: the top 1% , including corporations should have their taxes increased, not decreased. Our deficit is now higher than ever thanks to Trump and the complicit republican controlled congress. The middle class and the poor deserve a break not these wealth hoarding bastards. 2. ) Sanctuary cities are merely a stop gap against the lawlessness and brutality of ICE. Illegal immigration must be addressed and curtailed, no question. But a border wall is a stupid, political stunt destined to fail. I am not trained in this area to have an opinion regarding the best remedy. But we have laws right now in regard to people seeking asylum that are being broken by the current “policy.” Hence the problems at the border right now. Trump’s stupid fear mongering border stunts have made things worse. Perhaps a coherent foreign labor policy would go along ways toward providing workers where needed, but not necessarily citizenship. 3. ) SSA should not be plundered. It belongs to the citizens who earned it and is not an “entitlement. 4. ) Rational gun control must be instituted. The NRA has more to do with profits than a contemporary interpretation of the 2nd Amnendment that protects citizenry. I would be very interested to learn YOUR responses. Less interested in slogans from some right wing hate rally. So I take it you will be waiting at the Tiajuana border to aid and assist the caravan when if/when they are allowed in? How many of those folks are you willing to keep at your OWN house and support until they can get back on their feet? How many spare bedrooms do you have? I would be a fool to reveal my identity here, wouldn’t you agree? All I need is some gun totin’ “liberal” hater showing up on my doorstep, looking forward to filling me full of “hot lead” before breakfast or proper introductions. My point being: demonizing others in a whirlwind fantasy of xenophobic, racial or political hatred, hatred combined with murderous intent is well, flat wrong. And yes, rational gun control would remove AR15, and any other assault type weapons from private ownership, period. Intensive background checks of anyone seeking weapons, and age limit set at 21. The right to bear arms should and must not include rapid fire weapons capable of leveling school yards, music venues, gay bars, etc. And by the way, if a desperate political refugee knocked on MY door, I would let them in and try to help. Wouldn’t you?
By reading, I do not think you live any where near the border. I have lived in TX for the past 5 years. I am a Republican/Conservative...whatever. I am a Texan at heart...it suited me to live here.
I think it it is way harder to get just a drives license here. I have received a license in 3 other states fairly easily. All I had to do was provide my current license and maybe take a written test. In Texas, I had to PROVE an original birth certificate, provide TWO original marriage licenses and an original SS card. ALL this just to PROVE that I was an American Citizen and actually BORN here. So forgive me, if I am not forgiving of ILLEGALs! I am PRO immigration...if done LEGALLY.
Also, the Caravan....is not full of political refugees. They are ECONOMIC refugees and DO NOT qualify for political asylum. Of those that actually show up for their court date based this nutty, crazy 'catch/release' rule, 90% are deported.
To to respond to your 'gun common sense'....
Contrary to what many think, the “AR” in AR-15 does not stand for “Assault Rifle.” Neither does it stand for “Automatic Rearming,” “Armed Retiree” or even “Auntie Ruth.” It simply stands for ArmaLite Rifle 15, the company from which it was born. It's how this arms manufacturer named its products.
I intentionally put that in a different font as it is VERY common mistake. Congress 'highjacked' the initials for 'AR' back in the 90's when they did the 'Assault Rifle' Ban. That Ban lasted about 10 years because it did not work by stats and was repealed.
An AR-15 is NOT an automatic weapon nor is it military. I hear this crap all the time and all over the news. I am so sick of people hacking about guns that haven't held one and/or know NOTHING about them....other than ALL guns are evil. People are evil, guns are not. Automatic weapons were done away a long time ago. It is modeled after the military style weapon...yes. The STYLE of it. The military weapon was actually an AR-10 with 3 different settings all the way up to automatic.
The AR-15 is SEMI-AUTOMATIC....just like a 9mm Handgun. That means the guy at Sandyhook that killed all those little kids...HAD to pull the trigger each and time he pointed the gun at each little kid. A person does NOT hold the trigger down and SPRAY bullets as in the movies. The 'Bumpstock' that was used in Las Vegas was illegal because he modified the gun to become illegal. Try and legislate that. Better start with the internet, because it's out there on how to make it illegal. You cannot even fire 10 shots on a legal AR-15 without the barrel getting way too hot to hold. I could go on and on. The Lakeland School Shooting was done by a Shotgun and a Revolver. And I am assuming you know the difference.
Have you EVER tried to buy ANY gun? 99% of gun sales go through an FBI background check. That is including the ever popular gun shows.
I agree that that you shouldn't let a nut job get a gun. However, what exactly is a nut job? How do you legislate or regulate a nut job? Is your definition the same as mine? Is that any person that has been on Prozac or been to a shrink? Or is it every military person that comes back with PTSD? And with all those questions, you need to prohibit their family members living with them as well because they can't have a gun in the household. I don't really know what the EXACT definition of nut job is. But as the all knowing Senator said from Hawaii this week...we know so very much, we have to tell people just how smart we are. She is different for sure.
I hope I said it all correctly and clearly. But flame away if you want. I had just had it and was done with the misconceptions and thinking it is all so easy.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Gator Bug, that was a fantastic post. I don’t see how anyone could dispute anything you said. You are missing the real issue here, in my opinion, and here’s what I mean. Like so many issues tainted with the stench of politics, this debate over gun control is not one where a solution is desired. Read it again.....that’s right. The politicians don’t want the issue to be resolved. They want it to continue on and on and on. In so doing, the topic provides a perpetual distraction for politicians, so their feet cannot be held to he fire on issues that are critical, for which real definitive solutions are desperately needed.
Lets’s just be real honest here. We have had lots of guns in this country since it’s inception. We have 300-400 million of them in the country. For 229 years we have had lots of guns. For a century we have had “assault rifles”. I own a semiautomatic M1 carbine that my dad used in the South Pacific, about 75 years ago. I have 30 round magazines. It is lightweight, compact, deadly, and fires as rapidly as any AR-15. There are countless examples of weapons that are just as deadly as an AR-15. You explained this beautifully. If I had to pick a weapon to defend myself in an urban setting, I’d prefer the M1, actually.
The problem is that the opposition is programmed to focus in on defeating the “evil” NRA and “evil” guns. They won’t focus on the real problem......evil people, and the underlying cause of their evil inclinations. There is comparatively little discussion of factors that compel people to engage in mass killings.
Has the opiate crisis been linked or implicated?
Does our entertainment industry contribute?
Does social media contribute?
Are we in need of more emphasis on mental health professionals?
Are we increasingly spiritually deficient?
Are our kids over exposed to video games that have an impact?
Are we disciplining our kids inadequately?
Speaking of kids, what about today’s child rearing practices?
How are kids taught to cope with failure and peer pressure?
How are kids taught to accept “losing”, be it academically, socially, or athletically?
Is there any correlation with the increasing trends toward a more secular society?
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Location: Arkansas | Bear - 2018-12-08 8:17 PM
Gator Bug, that was a fantastic post. I don’t see how anyone could dispute anything you said. You are missing the real issue here, in my opinion, and here’s what I mean. Like so many issues tainted with the stench of politics, this debate over gun control is not one where a solution is desired. Read it again.....that’s right. The politicians don’t want the issue to be resolved. They want it to continue on and on and on. In so doing, the topic provides a perpetual distraction for politicians, so their feet cannot be held to he fire on issues that are critical, for which real definitive solutions are desperately needed.
Lets’s just be real honest here. We have had lots of guns in this country since it’s inception. We have 300-400 million of them in the country. For 229 years we have had lots of guns. For a century we have had “assault rifles”. I own a semiautomatic M1 carbine that my dad used in the South Pacific, about 75 years ago. I have 30 round magazines. It is lightweight, compact, deadly, and fires as rapidly as any AR-15. There are countless examples of weapons that are just as deadly as an AR-15. You explained this beautifully. If I had to pick a weapon to defend myself in an urban setting, I’d prefer the M1, actually.
The problem is that the opposition is programmed to focus in on defeating the “evil” NRA and “evil” guns. They won’t focus on the real problem......evil people, and the underlying cause of their evil inclinations. There is comparatively little discussion of factors that compel people to engage in mass killings.
Has the opiate crisis been linked or implicated?
Does our entertainment industry contribute?
Does social media contribute?
Are we in need of more emphasis on mental health professionals?
Are we increasingly spiritually deficient?
Are our kids over exposed to video games that have an impact?
Are we disciplining our kids inadequately?
Speaking of kids, what about today’s child rearing practices?
How are kids taught to cope with failure and peer pressure?
How are kids taught to accept “losing”, be it academically, socially, or athletically?
Is there any correlation with the increasing trends toward a more secular society?
Politically speaking, these nuances are not useful. That’s the problem.
What some amazing posts these last few have been; intelligence on display. Very well said and right on the money
Edited by Chandler's Mom 2018-12-08 8:54 PM
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