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    Location: 'Hawk Country | This is not good. Many horses at Lincoln, then OKC, and now to Guymon slack on Friday. |
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    Location: mn | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down.
Wow. Just wow. I would like to get mine out this year. Especially when it's in the 70's/80's. So I really do wish there would be no more issues after this race and the ones coming up over the next couple weeks and we can carry on. But clearly this is having the greatest impact on the barrel horses because it is being passed on and spread at these races. Not sure how people aren't concerned and won't bat an eye at throwing their horses into a barn with several others at the moment. |
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     Location: North Dakota | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. Messaged by Race for the Roses producers?
Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:47 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. Messaged by Race for the Roses producers? Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
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     Location: North Dakota | EmtRoper - 2014-04-30 9:47 AM They are telling you not be posting the truth about what is going on and messaging you to take it down?
I refused to take my post down and probably lost a friend over it. Which is sad really. |
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        Location: ND | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:47 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. Messaged by Race for the Roses producers? Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
and the risk is very low......and always a possibility....... |
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       Location: the fantasy txdad married | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 8:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING!
Here is what I've got to say. In 2011, I was personally close to the "cutter" outbreak as most of you may remember. It was one of my best friends that put down the first cutting horse in Bakersfield, Ca. Yes, it started in Ogden but, it wasn't a cutting horse. As best as they could trace it, it was a non-cutting horse that was stalled at the facility during the cutting show that spread it to the cutters. And the best they could trace that horse was to some where over the Canadian border. Anyway, at the Bakersfield show the weekend after Ogden was when some of them started showing symptoms. My friend put one of hers down at the show and rushed the other one to UC Davis where he stayed in a sling for months. Some of you may remember me sharing the journey of that infected horse also. Side note for those wondering, that horse is still alive but, still has issues with his rear end and bladder control. Some cutters did not go to the Bakersfield show after Ogden and went home to many different states including Texas and there were two families that came right back here to my home town. After they figured out where the first cutter got infected, it spread like wildfire through the cutting community and guess what they did? They took temps, practiced strict bio-security care and THEY ALL STAYED HOME!!!!!!! Yes, some people did still rodeo, barrel race, etc....but ALL THE CUTTERS STAYED HOME!!!! Why? Because they knew it was the best deciscion and it would die out quickly that way. It was being called "The Cutter's Virus" because of how many ended up being infected, which was unfair but, because almost every new case during that time was either a cutting horse or a horse that had been in contact with a cutting horse that had gone to Ogden, that is just how some labeled it. The Cutters were commended for their discipline to help squash this ugly thing that takes horses without discrimination. Too bad us Barrel Racers as a whole can't be just as disciplined :(
I've told you all this to say this: This is now "The Barrel Racer's Virus" and if ALL OF THE BARREL RACERS WOULD STAY HOME!!!! it would die out just like "The Cutter's Virus" did. |
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     Location: North Dakota | dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 9:49 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:47 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. Messaged by Race for the Roses producers? Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
and the risk is very low......and always a possibility.......
I guess I am of a different oppinion. I don't feel the risk is that low when two horses from two different states at the same barrel race that is NOT in the hot zone end up dying. Now put 300 horses all under one roof for 3 days where the majority of the horses are from the hot zone. I wouldn't risk it. |
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| From what I heard from my vet recently was that with this being a Wild strain they arent sure it is being able to be transmitted longer. I got recommended to stay home and stay put because one weekend of barrel racing entry fees lost is alot cheaper than what it would cost if he got sick. She said she is more worried about horses being able to be carriers and shedders longer beacuse of the cold damp weather we have been having. |
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        Location: ND | 1left2right - 2014-04-30 9:51 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 8:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! Here is what I've got to say.
In 2011, I was personally close to the "cutter" outbreak as most of you may remember. It was one of my best friends that put down the first cutting horse in Bakersfield, Ca.
Yes, it started in Ogden but, it wasn't a cutting horse. As best as they could trace it, it was a non-cutting horse that was stalled at the facility during the cutting show that spread it to the cutters. And the best they could trace that horse was to some where over the Canadian border.
Anyway, at the Bakersfield show the weekend after Ogden was when some of them started showing symptoms. My friend put one of hers down at the show and rushed the other one to UC Davis where he stayed in a sling for months. Some of you may remember me sharing the journey of that infected horse also. Side note for those wondering, that horse is still alive but, still has issues with his rear end and bladder control.
Some cutters did not go to the Bakersfield show after Ogden and went home to many different states including Texas and there were two families that came right back here to my home town.
After they figured out where the first cutter got infected, it spread like wildfire through the cutting community and guess what they did? They took temps, practiced strict bio-security care and
THEY ALL STAYED HOME!!!!!!!
Yes, some people did still rodeo, barrel race, etc....but ALL THE CUTTERS STAYED HOME!!!!
Why? Because they knew it was the best deciscion and it would die out quickly that way. It was being called "The Cutter's Virus" because of how many ended up being infected, which was unfair but, because almost every new case during that time was either a cutting horse or a horse that had been in contact with a cutting horse that had gone to Ogden, that is just how some labeled it.
The Cutters were commended for their discipline to help squash this ugly thing that takes horses without discrimination.
Too bad us Barrel Racers as a whole can't be just as disciplined :(
I've told you all this to say this:
This is now "The Barrel Racer's Virus" and if ALL OF THE BARREL RACERS WOULD STAY HOME!!!! it would die out just like "The Cutter's Virus" did.
that last sentence is not true..... |
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         Location: So. California | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 7:47 AM
CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote fromΒ Β "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down.Β Messaged by Race for the Roses producers?
Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
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Just speechless.... They are putting horses in harms way for a few dollars. Wow, just WOW!!
Everyone needs to stay home for 30 days AFTER the last diagnosed case... Which is 30 days from April 25th...
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    Location: mn | dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 9:49 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:47 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. Messaged by Race for the Roses producers? Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
and the risk is very low......and always a possibility.......
This is what people keep telling themselves that are chosing to haul right now and this is why we will continue to have issues. |
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        Location: ND | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:51 AM dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 9:49 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:47 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. Messaged by Race for the Roses producers? Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
and the risk is very low......and always a possibility....... I guess I am of a different oppinion. I don't feel the risk is that low when two horses from two different states at the same barrel race that is NOT in the hot zone end up dying. Now put 300 horses all under one roof for 3 days where the majority of the horses are from the hot zone. I wouldn't risk it. the concept of this 'hot zone' is where most of you are going wrong......if you want to consider a 'hot zone', it's not just where infected horses have popped up, it's where conditions are conducive to this virus becoming active and shedding.......
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       Location: the fantasy txdad married | dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 8:53 AM 1left2right - 2014-04-30 9:51 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 8:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! Here is what I've got to say.
In 2011, I was personally close to the "cutter" outbreak as most of you may remember. It was one of my best friends that put down the first cutting horse in Bakersfield, Ca.
Yes, it started in Ogden but, it wasn't a cutting horse. As best as they could trace it, it was a non-cutting horse that was stalled at the facility during the cutting show that spread it to the cutters. And the best they could trace that horse was to some where over the Canadian border.
Anyway, at the Bakersfield show the weekend after Ogden was when some of them started showing symptoms. My friend put one of hers down at the show and rushed the other one to UC Davis where he stayed in a sling for months. Some of you may remember me sharing the journey of that infected horse also. Side note for those wondering, that horse is still alive but, still has issues with his rear end and bladder control.
Some cutters did not go to the Bakersfield show after Ogden and went home to many different states including Texas and there were two families that came right back here to my home town.
After they figured out where the first cutter got infected, it spread like wildfire through the cutting community and guess what they did? They took temps, practiced strict bio-security care and
THEY ALL STAYED HOME!!!!!!!
Yes, some people did still rodeo, barrel race, etc....but ALL THE CUTTERS STAYED HOME!!!!
Why? Because they knew it was the best deciscion and it would die out quickly that way. It was being called "The Cutter's Virus" because of how many ended up being infected, which was unfair but, because almost every new case during that time was either a cutting horse or a horse that had been in contact with a cutting horse that had gone to Ogden, that is just how some labeled it.
The Cutters were commended for their discipline to help squash this ugly thing that takes horses without discrimination.
Too bad us Barrel Racers as a whole can't be just as disciplined :(
I've told you all this to say this:
This is now "The Barrel Racer's Virus" and if ALL OF THE BARREL RACERS WOULD STAY HOME!!!! it would die out just like "The Cutter's Virus" did.
that last sentence is not true.....
That it wouldn't die out? No, it wouldn't actually die out altogether. Yes, this has been around forever but, when there is an outbreak the only way to stop it is to stop movement and large gatherings of horses. Will it happen again? Sure but, we can help stop it from getting so wide spread once we find out. |
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    Location: mn | dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 9:57 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:51 AM dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 9:49 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:47 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. Messaged by Race for the Roses producers? Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
and the risk is very low......and always a possibility....... I guess I am of a different oppinion. I don't feel the risk is that low when two horses from two different states at the same barrel race that is NOT in the hot zone end up dying. Now put 300 horses all under one roof for 3 days where the majority of the horses are from the hot zone. I wouldn't risk it. the concept of this 'hot zone' is where most of you are going wrong......if you want to consider a 'hot zone', it's not just where infected horses have popped up, it's where conditions are conducive to this virus becoming active and shedding.......
This I agree with. Wish this issue would raise awareness to producers as to the time of year they hold events. |
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     Location: North Dakota | dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 9:57 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:51 AM dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 9:49 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:47 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 9:41 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:29 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-30 9:15 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 9:07 AM A quote from "More and more this is zeroing in on the Barrel horse community . The barrel horse groups need to look at preventative measures."
The leading vet that has been following this outbreak is saying to be proactive. Why is this so hard for people to understand and to follow? The only way to prevent the spread of this is to STOP HAULING! I read this this morning too....wishing it would have an impact. But I think this race will go on. The race will go on. I posted this exact thing on my facebook and was messaged to take it down. Messaged by Race for the Roses producers? Yep. Basically said they cannot afford to cancel it and there is no backup date.
and the risk is very low......and always a possibility....... I guess I am of a different oppinion. I don't feel the risk is that low when two horses from two different states at the same barrel race that is NOT in the hot zone end up dying. Now put 300 horses all under one roof for 3 days where the majority of the horses are from the hot zone. I wouldn't risk it. the concept of this 'hot zone' is where most of you are going wrong......if you want to consider a 'hot zone', it's not just where infected horses have popped up, it's where conditions are conducive to this virus becoming active and shedding.......
You don't think 300 horses (many of which have been exposed to this virus already) under one roof during this crappy weather at a 3 day barrel race is conducive to the spread of this? |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | I think it was Rockinas that mentioned quite a while back that some horses can be shedders for life. Basically a horse can be a carrier or shedder but never get sick? So how do we know we have a shedder? Do they look and act perfectly healthy? If someone has already answered this then I apologize but humor me and repost the answer if you would. |
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     Location: North Dakota | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 10:02 AM I think it was Rockinas that mentioned quite a while back that some horses can be shedders for life. Basically a horse can be a carrier or shedder but never get sick? So how do we know we have a shedder? Do they look and act perfectly healthy? If someone has already answered this then I apologize but humor me and repost the answer if you would.
I think they can be tested and they will test positive. But vets are not going around testing horses that are not showing signs because many horses may test positive for it but never shed it or have it flare up. I have a friend that has two horses that she knows carries the herpes virus but it has never flared up in either and none of her others have become sick. |
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    Location: South Dakota | I just checked out the R4R facebook page, and don't seen any mention of the EHV1 virus at all....This seems really strange... Are they not allowing posts on their page regarding this virus? Seems like they are ignoring the seriousness of the situation.... |
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