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Location: Where I am happiest | My sources are saying they purchased Dual Peppy for $700,000. Yes, SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND!! |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | ThreeCorners - 2014-09-22 10:21 PM
My sources are saying they purchased Dual Peppy for $700,000. Yes, SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND!!Â
Just don't make since, a horse worth that much being starved to death. I don't care what crap they come up with, who ever did this is a sick person!. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | ThreeCorners - 2014-09-22 10:21 PM
My sources are saying they purchased Dual Peppy for $700,000. Yes, SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND!!Â
Years ago too, right? I wonder what changed recently... |
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Location: Washington | ThreeCorners - 2014-09-22 8:21 PM My sources are saying they purchased Dual Peppy for $700,000. Yes, SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND!!
Just goes to show...money means NOTHING. Some need a tax deduction. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | The whole story makes no sense. They had horses for years.....so, they cover them with a tarp in the barn when they die......horses that supposedly coliced in extreme cold LAST WINTER.....dude said he couldn't dump them because they were thousand pound horses.....but, I'm pretty sure their bones didn't weigh that much......this whole story is bizarrre. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | http://www.ewg.org/mining/owners/overview.php?cust_id=2213928 |
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Location: Colorado | cobrlracer - 2014-09-22 1:44 PM Babcocks have never claimed to own him, they put the deal together and this happened over 14 years ago! I personally was sitting with C.T. When he heard the news and he had tears running! I know a lot of people on this site hide behind fake names and profiles but I won't! Nor will I not stand up for so someone that is just trying to do the right thing! If it hadnt been for CT and Kellene this story would have already been yesterday's news! Rande
Oh Bat C......!
Stop the nonsense. CT and Kellene had NOTHING to do with what happened today. The FB page had nothing to do with what happened today.
The original report was Friday afternoon. The horses were taken out today. Like it or not there are legal ways of doing this. Vet reports and judges who had to be involved. And arrangements for the horses care at an undisclosed location. This is standard for Colorado.
CT has no rights to any of the horses. And who ever his "friend" is that is running the face book page has most certainly claimed Babcocks were the previous owners.
Funny you want to rant about people here hiding behind fake names and profiles. You don't share much either.
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Location: CA | What happened today had everything to do with the pressure from thousands of people demanding they do something immediately and yes that was due to social media (FB) spreading the word quickly. Earlier today they (El Paso sherrifs dept.) could/would do nothing to remove them, then later a vet was allowed to go out there and amazingly they were seized, hmm seemingly after media got involved, attorneys contacted the governor (per FB), AOL put in as a headline, the countless people getting involved (calling the resources offered on FB page to see change). Thanks to all these people, they helped these horses get out...
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Location: The edge of no where | I do think the public outcry made a difference. I called the sherriffs department yesterday morning and was assured their mounted patrol was working with the owners and the horses would be fine where they were. Called again in the late afternoon and they said they had been flooded with calls all day and were documenting everything to build a record. Do a bit of research on this sheriff, he seems like a scumbag. The fb page did give out enough information to get thousands of people to pressure them to remove the horses......and it involved several media outlets. I think there needs to continue to be pressure to charge this woman with cruelty.
Also, think of this.... Now everyone knows who sherry brunzell is, not just random pond scum, thousands of people know her identity and will be pressuring for this not to be let go.
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Location: Where I am happiest | I strongly believe the facebook page and all the public pressure had ALOT if not everything to do with the horses finally getting the help they needed.
On another note, check this out!!! This is a gem of a find and shows just how crazy these people are. http://www.krdo.com/news/former-gop-chairman-woman-facing-animal-cruelty-charges-previously-considered-a-security-threat/28198778 |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Why is it in these cases of starving neglected animals...the piece of crap owners look so well fed?! I'd go without food myself before I would let an animal I own go without.
There's a special seat in the hot place for these folks.
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Location: Oklahoma | jbhoot - 2014-09-22 9:39 PM fatchance - 2014-09-22 9:18 PM LRQHS - 2014-09-22 7:09 PM My answer to knowing the partners is that knowing who they are gives me knowledge....knowledge of who not to do business with in the future. It's not about the almighty dollar, it's about doing the best with what you have....information, money, education, etc... Then make sure you never put a price on a horse and or put one through a catalog sale. I hope people who are in a syndication/partnership are taking notes....I stand by what I said. Yep you are right Fatchance. It all depends on what kind of partnership it is. If it is a general partnership than it could just be the husband and the wife and maybe one or two more. However if it is a limited partnership it could have hundreds of partners. This type of partnership has two classes of partners General and Limited. The general partners controls everything. The limited partners control almost nothing but share in the profits if any. I am sure it will come out in the next few days what type it is. Most syndications are limited partnerships.
Is he even still owned by the partnership? How long has this woman owned him? Since he hasn't sired a foal in four years, just wondering if maybe these people who let him get in such bad shape bought him and never transfered him with AQHA. |
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Unreal. I don't see any mental issues. I see a person that knows exactly what she is doing and doesn't give a rats behind |
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Location: My happy place | I agree, I saw in one interview where she said the deaths were caused by the change of seasons. I'm old and I have never heard that excuse, or lost one to seasonal changes. I believe it was "She was to lazy to feed season".
Just a public service announcement ..... be very careful seasons are about to change. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | SG. - 2014-09-23 12:06 PM Unreal. I don't see any mental issues. I see a person that knows exactly what she is doing and doesn't give a rats behind
I agree not mental just CRAZY and dont give a da*. |
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| Palopony - 2014-09-23 12:24 PM I agree, I saw in one interview where she said the deaths were caused by the change of seasons. I'm old and I have never heard that excuse, or lost one to seasonal changes. I believe it was "She was to lazy to feed season".
Just a public service announcement ..... be very careful seasons are about to change.
Yeah right.... Season change... why is that I didn't lose ONE horse to season changes and in Minnesota that could be daily.... HECK forget daily HOURLY.. And back in the day we had no clue what we were doing... The first horse we lost was a mare having twins... all three died... NOT the season change. |
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| Maybe stupidity and lack of a consciousness is now a illness? Just about everything else has been determined an illness... (sarcasm) |
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Location: Kentucky | TrailGirl - 2014-09-22 3:07 PM
Here is what I sent to the Commissioner. Â And I included my name/address etc. Â My "real name" no less.
 Commissioner Glenn,
  Those of us in the “horse sport world” have been saddened to learn of the apparent abuse case involving World Champion cutting horse Dual Peppy and several other horses in your county. I do not know if you are a knowledgeable horse person or not…so I’d like to express my feelings on the situation these horses have been enduring. While some non-horse folks might feel that the explanation of the deaths of the other 12 or so horses as being from “colic” over the winter…I would highly doubt that to be the case. If you have a horse colic you call in a vet or treat accordingly. It is a GI issue that can certainly occur in horses…but the coincidence of all 12 suffering from colic and dying is beyond the realm of possibility unless they failed to treat the horses and or the general state of neglect we see today existed at that time as well.
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Regardless…horses stalled in a barn with decomposing carcasses and piled up manure has no excuse. Neither can they explain away the very poor condition of these animals. If you do not intervene and remove the remaining animals from her care I believe they will persist in these terrible conditions and/or die as the other before them.  If they were capable of providing proper food and care and chose to keep these horses in this state that only serves to show they are not fit to own them. These were not uneducated new horse owners. They had resources and connections in the horse world. They could have sought help. Instead they watched them suffer and die one by one.
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Please do the right thing and remove all horses from their care.
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | Here is a VERY interesting in depth article on this travesty. Well worth the read and sheds a lot of light on many unanswered questions. http://allaboutcutting.net/ |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Wow...now that's a refreshing change to have a well written article with lots of details. Thanks for posting that.
So they borrowed the money to buy that stallion in the first place. That's ridiculous. Wonder what sort of insurance policies they had for these horses. And the details on the seemingly corrupt Sheriff were very interesting as well. Not surprising that he didn't care enough to remove the horses from those conditions. |
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