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| CHEETAH - 2015-02-04 5:02 PM
So I just switched to ADM patriot about 5 weeks ago, heard nothing but good things about it, now this happens. UGH!!! So what is everyone feeding? This Renew Gold product, how do you feed it, what else do you feed with it besides good hay. Not comfortable about continuing to feed the ADM, I don't have a lot of choices in my area Need suggestions!
I feed 1 renew Gold with some alfalfa pellets. Switching the other 5 to Blue Bonnet Intensify omega force. Blue bonnet is one of a handful that has separate machinery for equine feed. |
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Location: OH. IO | CHEETAH - 2015-02-04 6:02 PM So I just switched to ADM patriot about 5 weeks ago, heard nothing but good things about it, now this happens. UGH!!! So what is everyone feeding? This Renew Gold product, how do you feed it, what else do you feed with it besides good hay. Not comfortable about continuing to feed the ADM, I don't have a lot of choices in my area Need suggestions!
you should look into tribute feeds. Its made in sandusky ohio,and I cannot say enough good things about it. We feed Kalm Ultra. search their site and read ingrediants. Love the high fat low starch and the horses LOVE IT and look fabulous!! I was shocked last spring when i took the final blanket off our mares for spring. They looked wonderful. |
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Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 5:20 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-04 5:02 PM So I just switched to ADM patriot about 5 weeks ago, heard nothing but good things about it, now this happens. UGH!!! So what is everyone feeding? This Renew Gold product, how do you feed it, what else do you feed with it besides good hay. Not comfortable about continuing to feed the ADM, I don't have a lot of choices in my area Need suggestions! I feed 1 renew Gold with some alfalfa pellets. Switching the other 5 to Blue Bonnet Intensify omega force. Blue bonnet is one of a handful that has separate machinery for equine feed.
want2chase3, sadly Blue Bonnet is not in my area. : ( Do you add a Vitamin Mineral supplement with the renew gold? Thanks! |
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Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | jake16 - 2015-02-04 5:25 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-04 6:02 PM So I just switched to ADM patriot about 5 weeks ago, heard nothing but good things about it, now this happens. UGH!!! So what is everyone feeding? This Renew Gold product, how do you feed it, what else do you feed with it besides good hay. Not comfortable about continuing to feed the ADM, I don't have a lot of choices in my area Need suggestions! you should look into tribute feeds. Its made in sandusky ohio,and I cannot say enough good things about it. We feed Kalm Ultra. search their site and read ingrediants. Love the high fat low starch and the horses LOVE IT and look fabulous!! I was shocked last spring when i took the final blanket off our mares for spring. They looked wonderful.
Jake16, I'll look into this feed to see if it's available in my area! Thanks for the suggestion! |
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Location: Texas | Here is what Purina said in reply to my email:
In Texas we have separate manufacturing systems for the Purina horse and cattle feeds. We use physical segregation and advanced systems and processes to guard against cross contamination. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | Purina is safe.I think fatchance (louise) posted earlier..
here is my reply from Soutern States regarding Triple Crown.
Dear Karen – needless to say your question is one of many recently – SS has issued the following statement (last week):
In light of recent concerns in the horse feed industry regarding contamination of horse feeds, Southern States would like to reassure its customers regarding our feed safety standards. We take extraordinary caution when manufacturing feed to ensure the quality and safety of our feeds for all species. Our safety standards include stringent processes and quality assurance testing on each batch of feed to ensure our feeds are free from contaminants and contain only the ingredients that are safe for the intended species. Specifically in regards to recent concerns in the industry, Southern States has no record of any issue with Monensin in our horse feeds.
Our mills exceed the safety standards required by government regulations. All Southern States feed mills have HACCP (Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point) certification, which is an international program designed to ensure the safety of all food and feed products. We are also certified by the American Feed Industry Association (AFIA) Safe Feed/Safe Food, which defines industry established proper manufacturing practices. AFIA created the program to raise the bar within the industry for feed/food safety practices and awareness. Their program recognizes companies demonstrating their pledge to deliver safe and wholesome feed, while enhancing customer confidence in their products. As a result of our efforts, Southern States mills have been recognized as the AFIA Feed Mill of the Year in 1998, 2007, 2009, 2012 and 2014.
For more information about our quality standards:
• Read our horse feed quality article http://www.southernstates.com/articles/nutrition-guide/feed-quality.aspx
• Take a virtual tour of our feed mill and quality processes via our new YouTube video series http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHIbXzKDGS_iUvB0kl6xyUPcaIMA4zACH
To more specifically answer your question, some of our mills contain ionophores. The cross contamination safety protocols in place at each of our 7 mills are monitored by an on-site quality control supervisor required to follow strict sequencing methods.
Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns – we appreciate your business and continued confidence in our feed products.
Ruth
Ruth Hopke
Edited by Bibliafarm 2015-02-04 6:36 PM
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Location: OH. IO | CHEETAH - 2015-02-04 7:23 PM
jake16 - 2015-02-04 5:25 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-04 6:02 PM So I just switched to ADM patriot about 5 weeks ago, heard nothing but good things about it, now this happens. UGH!!! So what is everyone feeding? This Renew Gold product, how do you feed it, what else do you feed with it besides good hay. Not comfortable about continuing to feed the ADM, I don't have a lot of choices in my area Need suggestions! you should look into tribute feeds. Its made in sandusky ohio,and I cannot say enough good things about it. We feed Kalm Ultra. search their site and read ingrediants. Love the high fat low starch and the horses LOVE IT and look fabulous!! I was shocked last spring when i took the final blanket off our mares for spring. They looked wonderful.
You are very welcome! I believe you will love it. They have a feed for every horse.we had a hard keeper that really blossemed from our feed.im so happy to hear they have a facility for equine feed only. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Run n on faith - 2015-02-04 3:18 PM Nevertooold - 2015-02-04 1:52 PM want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 12:19 PM I'm aware of triple crowns stellar reputation, that's what made me want to start feeding it in the first place.. ADM had a stellar rep as well. ... had... I'm not thrilled with finding whole corn nuggets in my ts sr and the bags have been inconsistent. . One will be very VERY moist and the next overly dry and crumbly. This is what was happening with the TC SR I was getting. I wasn't happy either and was told a story and it still happened.
If you're in East Texas it has to be from the small mill mine was coming from. Let us know. My friends in Illinois have never had an issue with Triple Crown feeds. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Fun2Run - 2015-02-04 6:28 PM Here is what Purina said in reply to my email:
In Texas we have separate manufacturing systems for the Purina horse and cattle feeds. We use physical segregation and advanced systems and processes to guard against cross contamination.
I wonder if they stepped it up after the fiasco years ago at their Gonzalez mill in Texas? |
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Location: Florida.. | I think Id trust triple crown .. they test each batch?
Our safety standards include stringent processes and quality assurance testing on each batch of feed to ensure our feeds are free from contaminants and contain only the ingredients that are safe for the intended species.
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| Bibliafarm - 2015-02-04 6:38 PM
I think Id trust triple crown .. they test each batch?
Our safety standards include stringent processes and quality assurance testing on each batch of feed to ensure our feeds are free from contaminants and contain only the ingredients that are safe for the intended species.
Thank you for posting this.. still leaves a question tho... I'm still switching to Blue bonnet. They can't come out and say their feed is ionophore free.. just basically saying it's "safe" per their safety protocol. |
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Location: Here | IRunOnFaith - 2015-02-04 3:13 PM I contacted Ametza about the Bermuda Pellets and haven't recieved anything back. Will update if I do.
Checking into the rabbits feed as well for my own personal curiosity just in case.
I had no idea until I saw this thread.
Thank you SG. You're saving people's horses, you really are. 
Not me... Just wanted to FYI everyone and share a friend's information. We all need to be educated |
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Location: Florida.. | want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 8:02 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-04 6:38 PM I think Id trust triple crown .. they test each batch?
Our safety standards include stringent processes and quality assurance testing on each batch of feed to ensure our feeds are free from contaminants and contain only the ingredients that are safe for the intended species.
Thank you for posting this.. still leaves a question tho... I'm still switching to Blue bonnet. They can't come out and say their feed is ionophore free.. just basically saying it's "safe" per their safety protocol.
I agree.. I think free of it is best. as much money as they all make youd think they could provide seperate buildings to be sure of this.. not just security procedures to make sure joe washes out bin.. |
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Location: Texas | Nevertooold - 2015-02-04 6:36 PM Fun2Run - 2015-02-04 6:28 PM Here is what Purina said in reply to my email:
In Texas we have separate manufacturing systems for the Purina horse and cattle feeds. We use physical segregation and advanced systems and processes to guard against cross contamination. I wonder if they stepped it up after the fiasco years ago at their Gonzalez mill in Texas?
That's my hope. Who can you trust at all? I still think oats from my local mill is what I'll do. They don't handle any medicated feed. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2015-02-04 7:07 PM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 8:02 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-04 6:38 PM I think Id trust triple crown .. they test each batch?
Our safety standards include stringent processes and quality assurance testing on each batch of feed to ensure our feeds are free from contaminants and contain only the ingredients that are safe for the intended species.
Thank you for posting this.. still leaves a question tho... I'm still switching to Blue bonnet. They can't come out and say their feed is ionophore free.. just basically saying it's "safe" per their safety protocol.
Agreed. Just had a conversation with a friend about this very topic.. I'm not sure of the % of horse people ... she said 80% don't educate themselves on exactly what their horses feed contains or where it's made UNTIL they have an issue. We put our trust in these companies to provide a good "safe" feed to our horses.. I joked today about ignorance being bliss on feeding... |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | I have tried Nutrena and Purian several times. And will never again. Too many problems. When I had enough of that, I researched other companies and I was never "sold" on ADM feeds. I could never get any verified information from any of their reps when I asked.
I LOVED LOVED my Blue Seal feeds when I was in PA. In Georgia I fed Triple Crown and it was ok, though extremely expensive.
Now we are in Missouri and I discovered MFA feeds shortly after arriving in 2013. It has been by far the BEST feed I have ever used. And surprisingly cheap. I've had the discussion on this topic with them when I pick up horse feed. They are either monensin free or at least the mill that makes the horse feed is. And they make the certified list on safe feed/safe food.
I recently found out that Kent feeds has partnered up with Blue Seal. Kent has locations throughout the midwest and if I was looking for a feed again I would be checking them out. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Fun2Run - 2015-02-04 6:28 PM Here is what Purina said in reply to my email:
In Texas we have separate manufacturing systems for the Purina horse and cattle feeds. We use physical segregation and advanced systems and processes to guard against cross contamination.
Is Purina safe only from the TX plant or nationwide? |
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Location: Texas | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-04 10:17 PM Fun2Run - 2015-02-04 6:28 PM Here is what Purina said in reply to my email:
In Texas we have separate manufacturing systems for the Purina horse and cattle feeds. We use physical segregation and advanced systems and processes to guard against cross contamination. Is Purina safe only from the TX plant or nationwide?
I don't know - I only mentioned Texas. |
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| I dug a little further and emailed this time instead of calling tc. I sent the info from my tags asking about the corn and inconsistent bags and also wanted to know about ionophores. I can't cut and paste the reply but she said my feed came from Byhalia MS and the reason why is because the mill in Mineola was shut down. My particular feed comes from either Byhalia, MS OR Arizona .. the mill in Byhalia IS ionophore FREE. What about Arizona? Oh and they are finishing up a transition to a new mill in Seguin, TX that will follow strict safety guidelines. No thanks. I got a little further like this. She never did address the corn or inconsistent batches. |
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| CHEETAH - 2015-02-04 6:21 PM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-04 5:20 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-04 5:02 PM So I just switched to ADM patriot about 5 weeks ago, heard nothing but good things about it, now this happens. UGH!!! So what is everyone feeding? This Renew Gold product, how do you feed it, what else do you feed with it besides good hay. Not comfortable about continuing to feed the ADM, I don't have a lot of choices in my area Need suggestions! I feed 1 renew Gold with some alfalfa pellets. Switching the other 5 to Blue Bonnet Intensify omega force. Blue bonnet is one of a handful that has separate machinery for equine feed.
I only add Forco to it. |
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