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Location: The edge of no where | astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 11:04 AM
That Facebook post was horrible! Likes seriously the best ADULTS in our business picking on a couple kids who probably will never have the horse power nor the money to go somewhere big and then person after person kissing up the the chouest's and destri commenting on it and dogging these teenage girls. Not to mention blacklisting them from a show they'll never have enough money to go to anyway. I thought it was very IRONIC all in the name of "anti-bullying", did they not realize they were just bullying back by doing all that?!?!?!
Wow! I just saw the FB post. Ouch!
I agree with you, she didn't post anything that bad...just maybe a bad call from a teenager and proceeded to get ripped by a lot of adults.
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| I have been following several Facebook posts as well as this thread, makes me sick to see the things being said about CHILDREN, these are CHILDREN, the same people talking about them, are probably the people these CHILDREN look up to in our sport and strive to be like. How humiliating would it be for those people who sure have a lot of negative to say about these kids, to have that same kid come up to them down the road and tell them how they were their idol and they wanted to be just like them, I would feel about a millimeter small. The sad thing, these kids probably do look up to these people who are running them down, not to mention, these kids don't even understand what it means to look down on someone, they are too young to understand, they are out there just doing what they love because mom and dad said here is where we are going to run today. Practice pen or for a million, these kids are going to do the same thing in their run regardless, that is what makes them great, they don't let nerves and anxiety get the best of them like so many of us adults do, they just go in there and do their thing, I sure wish I could still do that instead of picking my run apart before I even make it. I have seen girls who carry Pro cards saying ugly things on this subject, not on this post, but on the 100's spread across Facebook right now. You are PROFESSIONALS and you should act that way in EVERY aspect, you win with grace and you better dang sure learn how to lose with grace too. Being a professional doesn't just mean you get to act that way when you are winning, you better be carrying yourself as one ALL THE TIME!! This is the future of barrel racing, this is what keeps our sport great, we should all be cheering them on and every other person who runs Sunday for that matter. They all EARNED their spot to be there, plain and simple, it wasn't luck or that this one weighs less then that one, or she got a better ground draw than the other, they all still had to make it through 2 other runs to even be in the semi finals. I think any one of those 21 people running deserve that win next Sunday, every one of them has worked hard to be there and I will be there cheering every one of them on!! | |
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| Where's this Facebook post at? I cannot believe that people are being rude about this poor girl.. Let's hope she is too young for facebook still! | |
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| astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 11:04 AM
That Facebook post was horrible! Likes seriously the best ADULTS in our business picking on a couple kids who probably will never have the horse power nor the money to go somewhere big and then person after person kissing up the the chouest's and destri commenting on it and dogging these teenage girls. Not to mention blacklisting them from a show they'll never have enough money to go to anyway. I thought it was very IRONIC all in the name of "anti-bullying", did they not realize they were just bullying back by doing all that?!?!?!
I teach school and I have never allowed bullying in 39 years of teaching. Anytime you say or do something that is hurtful of others is bullying and it is wrong. Hats off to Destry for stopping it. This Chouest kid has been winning all over the South. I guess the barrel racers on here don't look at results anywhere other tha the shows that you go to. I love to see who is winning at any show. I ALWAYS check out the results. Pretty good reading.
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I TOTALLY agree!!!!!!
This sweet little 9 yr old girl and her gray horse deserve everything they accomplished the other day, and personally, because of what my daughter has been thru??? I am choosing to root for HER and her gray horse to win it all ~ I can not believe how rude and hateful grown adults can be..how jealous and mean......She is a KID for heaven sake!!!! Do you not think she or her parents can read this???? And the ones bad mouthing???? I'm sure if it was YOUR daughter???? That you would be leaping for joy and not ONE of these "issues" you claim, would then be an issue...Just saying....
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| streakysox - 2015-02-24 1:51 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 11:04 AM
That Facebook post was horrible! Likes seriously the best ADULTS in our business picking on a couple kids who probably will never have the horse power nor the money to go somewhere big and then person after person kissing up the the chouest's and destri commenting on it and dogging these teenage girls. Not to mention blacklisting them from a show they'll never have enough money to go to anyway. I thought it was very IRONIC all in the name of "anti-bullying", did they not realize they were just bullying back by doing all that?!?!?!
I teach school and I have never allowed bullying in 39 years of teaching. Anytime you say or do something that is hurtful of others is bullying and it is wrong. Hats off to Destry for stopping it. This Chouest kid has been winning all over the South. I guess the barrel racers on here don't look at results anywhere other tha the shows that you go to. I love to see who is winning at any show. I ALWAYS check out the results. Pretty good reading.
Thanks Destry for stopping it.
I'm confused so your condoning destri and these other professionals post that basically turned into bullying these teenagers for being teenagers? Many times in today's world the person that "stands up" is just as mean and nasty back to the bully. Turn the other check and don't regard these girls....have some class!
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it.
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| Nevertooold - 2015-02-24 2:37 PM
I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?Â
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it.
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Location: North Dakota | Nevertooold - 2015-02-24 2:37 PM I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it. I don't think anyone was saying it was not nice to say that the other two perfs didn't have as nice of ground. It is a fact the first perf girls had better ground. Now that is not taking away anything from Chayni!! She would have been one of the top ones regardless. But I think many people are tired of reading posts bashing the kids that use a magic seat and pretty much saying those kids cannot ride and have no right to be on those horses and competing at that level which I personally feel is very rude. I don't feel a child should be over mounted where it is dangerous but I did not feel these kids were over mounted. The horses did not seem dangerous or crazy. They just seemed fast and well trained. Good for those kids making an effort and being able to compete against the best of the best!
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Location: In a happy place | Nevertooold - 2015-02-24 2:37 PM I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it.
And it was quite obvious watching the last performances the ground was horrible, nothing like the first go. That is a fact. So it was harder to qualify in the last two rounds. What is wrong with saying that? | |
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| Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 3:22 PM
Nevertooold - 2015-02-24 2:37 PM I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?Â
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it. I don't think anyone was saying it was not nice to say that the other two perfs didn't have as nice of ground. It is a fact the first perf girls had better ground. Now that is not taking away anything from Chayni!! She would have been one of the top ones regardless. But I think many people are tired of reading posts bashing the kids that use a magic seat and pretty much saying those kids cannot ride and have no right to be on those horses and competing at that level which I personally feel is very rude.  I don't feel a child should be over mounted where it is dangerous but I did not feel these kids were over mounted. The horses did not seem dangerous or crazy. They just seemed fast and well trained. Good for those kids making an effort and being able to compete against the best of the best!Â
Couldn't agree with this more....................in fact, I read through this entire blog and never, not once did I see anyone bully or talk bad about this little girl...but like usual, people only read what they want to read so they can start drama. As awesome as a place this is for learning and talking with people about our shared love of horses...........it is also one of the worst places for snarky, drama filled comments. Someone had an opinion that weight matters and she felt there should have been a Jr. division. That was her opinion and in no way bashed anyone. Pathetic. | |
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Location: Online | I have no problem with the kids. That's not my issue. It's the adults who are in charge of the kids and their tactics. Putting kids on horses that they are not experienced enough to handle properly. Horsemanship first is what I teach my kids. And it shows with Chayni's parents, she has real horsemanship skills. Hate my opinion all you want, I have a thick skin.
If you want to call an opinion bullying, that's fine. Attacking someone for sharing an opinion you don't agree with is no different. Hello, pot. I'm kettle. Guess what? We're both black.
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Location: North Dakota | rodeomom13 - 2015-02-24 3:52 PM I have no problem with the kids. That's not my issue. It's the adults who are in charge of the kids and their tactics. Putting kids on horses that they are not experienced enough to handle properly. Horsemanship first is what I teach my kids. And it shows with Chayni's parents, she has real horsemanship skills. Hate my opinion all you want, I have a thick skin.
If you want to call an opinion bullying, that's fine. Attacking someone for sharing an opinion you don't agree with is no different. Hello, pot. I'm kettle. Guess what? We're both black.
Having an opinion is fine! I am not saying you shouldn't feel the way you do or have your opinion. Not everything is directed about what you had said either. But the way some things were worded by a few posters would be hurtful for a child to read. There are ways to word things that are constructive and ways that are hurtful. Some comments by a few came across as snarky and not nice. They were not just voicing an opinion.
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Location: Ft Worth TX | astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 10:18 AM
MS2011 - 2015-02-24 10:52 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-24 9:41 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:37 AM Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 7:32 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!! We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments. I can tell you i am so disgusted by all the adults bashing these kids on FB and on here- I don't see why we cannot be happy for them! If these kids are this awesome now think about how exciting the future of barrel racing is going to be! and Allie rode hard to and TBH she still popped out of the saddle even with the magic seat so its not like she was strapped down and flopping she was RIDDING that horse HARD and doing it WELL. Wow, have not seen the bashing on FB and glad of it. I saw Chayni run at the Glen Rose qualifier, she tied for 4th out of over 200 entries of the toughest horses around- all run on the same dirt on the same night. I was a drag behind her in the open the next day and congratulated her and her dad- nice, nice family.
I really want to point out I never meant it to sound like I was dogging this girl.  She is a good lil rider and very determined to win but I strongly disagree with the soliciting of money, the way have acted after they wrecked the rig they borrowed, and the fact that they are running the horse again at the Patriot after this wreck.  The lil girl is not the issue.  The way the parents and step parents have acted is a HUGE issue and its not right that they are asking for charity or that they are asking the horse to run again.  BTW the aunt or grandmother set up that go fund me account and the aunt has been in trouble for embelezing money before...just an FYI!  Please don't delete this people need to see it as much as they need to see the "Lydia Cup" thread. 
I don't know McKenzie or the family but I DO KNOW the vets that worked on the horse and if they said hes ok to run- I PROMISE YOU that horse is OK to run. He went into some of the BEST of hands and got salt water therapy and much more after that accident. From what I understand she did not run H2 in Semi's either, she borrowed a horse. But if the vet he went to OK's him to run, they are some of the BEST PERFORMANCE VETS AROUND, and know when a horse is or isn't ok to run- that i know. | |
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astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 10:18 AM
MS2011 - 2015-02-24 10:52 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-24 9:41 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:37 AM Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 7:32 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!! We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments. I can tell you i am so disgusted by all the adults bashing these kids on FB and on here- I don't see why we cannot be happy for them! If these kids are this awesome now think about how exciting the future of barrel racing is going to be! and Allie rode hard to and TBH she still popped out of the saddle even with the magic seat so its not like she was strapped down and flopping she was RIDDING that horse HARD and doing it WELL. Wow, have not seen the bashing on FB and glad of it. I saw Chayni run at the Glen Rose qualifier, she tied for 4th out of over 200 entries of the toughest horses around- all run on the same dirt on the same night. I was a drag behind her in the open the next day and congratulated her and her dad- nice, nice family.
I really want to point out I never meant it to sound like I was dogging this girl. Â She is a good lil rider and very determined to win but I strongly disagree with the soliciting of money, the way have acted after they wrecked the rig they borrowed, and the fact that they are running the horse again at the Patriot after this wreck. Â The lil girl is not the issue. Â The way the parents and step parents have acted is a HUGE issue and its not right that they are asking for charity or that they are asking the horse to run again. Â BTW the aunt or grandmother set up that go fund me account and the aunt has been in trouble for embelezing money before...just an FYI! Â Please don't delete this people need to see it as much as they need to see the "Lydia Cup" thread.Â
I don't know McKenzie or the family but I DO KNOW the vets that worked on the horse and if they said hes ok to run- I PROMISE YOU that horse is OK to run. He went into some of the BEST of hands and got salt water therapy and much more after that accident. From what I understand she did not run H2 in Semi's either, she borrowed a horse. But if the vet he went to OK's him to run, they are some of the BEST PERFORMANCE VETS AROUND, and know when a horse is or isn't ok to run- that i know.
That was H2 each time and I know Josh at Outlaw Equine very well myself and I hope he made them pay for all the therapies he used on that horse and didn't give any more charity. I never said he was "unsound" or that Josh and his crew didn't do a good job or give good advice. Its just I would never ask that of a horse especially one with heart that'll run regardless. Again not dogging outlaw equine nor mackenzie, she's a great little rider. Just don't agree with how the parents and family have acted.
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Location: Where the Jasmine & Magnolia Grow | astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 5:19 PM Well I'm glad this post got the Facebook posts took down JUST now proof team talmadage reads this....
Actually, the neat cowy turning barrel horse, BUDDY ROSE, that Destri Devenport qualified on, is one of Allie Chouest horses. Buddy Rose is not registered, and I believe he was her main mount when she & her brother Max, started running a few years ago. | |
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