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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I think that you should do a little background checking before believing this man.....Yes, he has government ties but that ended years ago and he is a writer of FICTION .....here are just a few of his "oops" ......... Edited to add: He is also a very good friend of Assad (Syrian President)
In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA
He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[
The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes."
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Location: TEXAS | star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you?
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Location: Kansas | Wow, did you see how Hillary went off on Trump supporters at her rallies yesterday. Now we need intervention, are reprehensible, divisive.......and all those other things she has us tagged. She's really scary when she's angry.
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Location: Kansas | slacy09 - 2016-11-02 9:08 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? I totally agree....why is is not just straight popular vote??
Glenn Beck says Trump will win. I know everyone thinks he's crazy but long before Iraq went to pieces after Obama took our troops out he predicted exactly what would happen and it did. |
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| star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM
The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you?
IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state. |
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| jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
I feel my voice would be heard better from a popular vote - winner take all - type of situation. If I vote against the way my state leans my vote doesn't make a lick of difference. Plus based on population all the midwestern states are heavily out weighed by available Electoral votes of the coastal states. I don't want to argue about the EC, it is what it is, those are just my thoughts on how frustrating it is to hear over and over that Trump is everyone's favorite and everyone hates Hilary, yet she picks up these big states and bam , she wins.
you see what I mean, I hope.
Just my thoughts.
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Location: TEXAS | star1218 - 2016-11-02 9:27 AM jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
you see what I mean, I hope.
Just my thoughts.
Exactly! Why should the big states with bigger populations always be the ones to decided the president. I feel like the electoral does more of that than a straight popular vote would. |
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Location: TEXAS | Frodo - 2016-11-02 9:10 AM Wow, did you see how Hillary went off on Trump supporters at her rallies yesterday. Now we need intervention, are reprehensible, divisive.......and all those other things she has us tagged. She's really scary when she's angry.
Yes but she says Trump's temperment isn't fit for Presidency.....wow just wow!!!  |
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Location: The Great Northwest | Frodo - 2016-11-02 7:10 AM Wow, did you see how Hillary went off on Trump supporters at her rallies yesterday. Now we need intervention, are reprehensible, divisive.......and all those other things she has us tagged. She's really scary when she's angry.
It will be more scary if she should be elected! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | moorehorses - 2016-11-02 8:34 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-28 12:26 PM I hope too hel* they have the ba**'s to do something about this, this time around instead of being yellow belly.. Apparently somebody does have the ba**s, watch this video!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM&feature=share[/quote...
Holy wow, This sounds a lot more serious then I thought it was. This women is very dangerous, and we thought Obamo was the dangerous one. She is out to do alot more harm then what she already has done.. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | slacy09 - 2016-11-02 9:08 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? I totally agree....why is is not just straight popular vote??
Because it is in the CONSTITUTION.....you know that document that we all want to uphold .....the failing is that there is no directive in the Constitution to force states to divide their electoral votes in relation to the popular vote. With the exception of just a few states, most are a "winner take all" of the electoral vote. |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | NJJ - 2016-11-02 9:55 AM I think that you should do a little background checking before believing this man.....Yes, he has government ties but that ended years ago and he is a writer of FICTION .....here are just a few of his "oops" ......... Edited to add: He is also a very good friend of Assad (Syrian President)
In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA
He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[
The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes."
we can all quote wikipedia NJJ
What you left out was his 30 years of service to the nation in intellegence and up till 2012 his presence on the council of foreign relations.... dont you think that maybe he was removed from this circle because they knew or saw him as an impending threat.
his video may have no credence but someone is behind commey opening back up the investagations and hillary is increasingly agitated in highligh reels and feeds of her rallys. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us? |
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| Bear - 2016-11-02 10:15 AM
John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us?
So true however this is the Clinton's it will get down to the meaning of what "Dumped" is. After all the Clinton's OWN everyone that could do anything about their crimes. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-02 10:28 AM
Bear - 2016-11-02 10:15 AM
John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us?
So true however this is the Clinton's it will get down to the meaning of what "Dumped" is. After all the Clinton's OWN everyone that could do anything about their crimes.
I noticed that the spokesman for the Clinton campaign did not question the authenticity or veracity of Podesta's email. They took a different angle. They tried to say that Podesta meant that the emails had to be "moved" somewhere, as opposed to deleted or destroyed by bleach bit.
When I find rotten food in my fridge, I "dump" it in the trash or the garbage disposal. When I get a copy of my tax return from my accountant, I don't "dump" it.....I move it off my desk and store it where I can find it. When people have things they need to keep, they don't "dump" them.
We are dealing with some corrupt, lying, criminal bastards in this bunch, let me tell you.
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| Bear - 2016-11-02 10:43 AM
jbhoot - 2016-11-02 10:28 AM
Bear - 2016-11-02 10:15 AM
John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us?
So true however this is the Clinton's it will get down to the meaning of what "Dumped" is. After all the Clinton's OWN everyone that could do anything about their crimes.
I noticed that the spokesman for the Clinton campaign did not question the authenticity or veracity of Podesta's email. They took a different angle. They tried to say that Podesta meant that the emails had to be "moved" somewhere, as opposed to deleted or destroyed by bleach bit.
When I find rotten food in my fridge, I "dump" it in the trash or the garbage disposal. When I get a copy of my tax return from my accountant, I don't "dump" it.....I move it off my desk and store it where I can find it. When people have things they need to keep, they don't "dump" them.
We are dealing with some corrupt, lying, criminal bastards in this bunch, let me tell you.
I agree But they will fall back on their usual play book divert ,delay,and attack the accuser. And blackmail is not out of the question. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
This is exactly what has happened in Illinois many times. The cesspool, Chicago, votes Democratic while the rest of the state had more Republicans but we got out voted. I also think the electoral votes should be given accordingly...not winner take all. That is screwed up. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Nevertooold - 2016-11-02 11:07 AM
jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
That's an interesting idea, NTO. Maybe instead of winner take all (with the 2 exceptions of Nebraska and Maine), maybe it should be revised to reflect the congressional districts and states, just like the Great Compromise of 1787. Each state would have 2 electoral votes, just like the Senate, and each congressional district would have 1 electoral vote. I like that. Of course one would have to take into account territories like Puerto Rico, DC, and Guam, but that shouldn't be hard. I think I would actually prefer this. Obviously, that would require a constitutional amendment. |
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| NJJ - 2016-11-02 10:02 AM
slacy09 - 2016-11-02 9:08 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? I totally agree....why is is not just straight popular vote??Â
Yet Art. II gives the right to the states to decide how they award the electro votes. |
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