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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | mattslilwonder - 2018-01-08 2:49 PM there is a diagram on FB that I found and it basiclly says this.....
The bottom line.... in general these rules do not apply to the occasional short-haul transportaion of horses, provided it is not for compensation
or commercial purposes
Basicaly, if you are hauling for recreational purposes or not showing for prize money, you are exempt from the ELd manadate
So are these situations when I don't need an ELD?
yes, if you are not driving more than 11 hours
yes, if you, the driver, take 10 consecutive hours off between shifts
yes, if you start and return your drive to the same location within 12 hours time
yes, if you drive within a 100 air mile radius (as the crow flies) from the normal starting work location
so in other words if I am going somewhere for the day or weekend and not leavin the state and I get stopped then
I am going camping for the weekend, and I'm not lying because my small 11' lq trailer is what I am camping in
I believe it also says there is no CDL needed is this instance. |
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| Please understand that once you cross that state line, the 26,001 weight limit rule goes to 10,001 pounds and that is going to involve pretty much anybody
can you give me a link to this i can't find it and i have been looking.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | rushlvr - 2018-01-09 11:47 AM Please understand that once you cross that state line, the 26,001 weight limit rule goes to 10,001 pounds and that is going to involve pretty much anybody can you give me a link to this i can't find it and i have been looking. thanks
No, it doesn't. Federal law is 26001. Has been since the 1980's. It is 10,001 lbs for a medical card. Anything anyone is hauling with a combined weight of 10,001 or more has to have a medical card. This law has been in affect since the 1980's.
Go to the Federal Mottor Carrier page - google the medical card and weight limits - google who must have a CDL - it's all there. |
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| thank you. its so freaking confusing so we don't need a cdl because we are under 26001 but need a medical card? jesus no wonder nobody can figure this crap out coming to it late in the game. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | rushlvr - 2018-01-09 1:24 PM thank you. its so freaking confusing so we don't need a cdl because we are under 26001 but need a medical card? jesus no wonder nobody can figure this crap out coming to it late in the game.
Yes that is it. 10,001 and over everyone needs a medical card. 26,001 and over a CDL.
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Location: in the ozone | rushlvr - 2018-01-09 9:47 AM
Please understand that once you cross that state line, the 26,001 weight limit rule goes to 10,001 pounds and that is going to involve pretty much anybody
can you give me a link to this i can't find it and i have been looking.
thanks
You go by what YOUR licensing state's laws are. There'd be no way in h for a person to know & follow each state's laws, so BY LAW, you follow YOUR OWN |
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Location: SE KS | Heads up people - In El Dorado, KS this "WEEK" everyone read this "week." A lady was taking her horse to the vet and she was stopped by a DOT
checking to see if she had her CDL - no - she is a local lady - he shut her down and would not allow her to take the horse to the vet. She has been fined $326 and the husband who does have a CDL had to take the horse on to the vet - they had a 4/5 horse trailer. so she was local , going to her local vet, and they still shut her down and fined.....
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Location: Where I am happiest | and here I came to just ask if anybody knows first hand of anybody actually getting stopped or ticketed. |
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Location: East Texas | Talked to 2 troopers (one a sgt. and the other a DOT guy) here in TX this week, and they said they are not looking for pickups and horse trailers. They said legislators do not think about the common sense aspect of trying to enforce this on the horse/ag industry
We are headed to MS next weekend.....hope they feel the same
Just looked up TX requirements for class B CDL which I have...... Now to make sure my horse trailer has farm tag (I cant remember) because its GVWR is 20,000
Authorizes an individual to drive:
Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more
Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,000 pounds or more that is towing a vehicle with a GVWR that does not exceed 10,000 pounds or a farm trailer with a GVWR that does not exceed 20,000 pounds
A bus with a seating capacity of 24 passengers or more including the driver
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Location: Jersey Girl | Dinero10 - 2018-01-10 9:47 AM Heads up people - In El Dorado, KS this "WEEK" everyone read this "week." A lady was taking her horse to the vet and she was stopped by a DOT
checking to see if she had her CDL - no - she is a local lady - he shut her down and would not allow her to take the horse to the vet. She has been fined $326 and the husband who does have a CDL had to take the horse on to the vet - they had a 4/5 horse trailer. so she was local , going to her local vet, and they still shut her down and fined.....
Was she over 26001? I am going to assume she was since they shut her down and would only allow a CDL driver behind the wheel. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | CrossDRanch - 2018-01-10 4:36 PM Talked to 2 troopers (one a sgt. and the other a DOT guy) here in TX this week, and they said they are not looking for pickups and horse trailers. They said legislators do not think about the common sense aspect of trying to enforce this on the horse/ag industry We are headed to MS next weekend.....hope they feel the same Just looked up TX requirements for class B CDL which I have...... Now to make sure my horse trailer has farm tag (I cant remember) because its GVWR is 20,000 Authorizes an individual to drive: Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,000 pounds or more that is towing a vehicle with a GVWR that does not exceed 10,000 pounds or a farm trailer with a GVWR that does not exceed 20,000 pounds A bus with a seating capacity of 24 passengers or more including the driver
A farm tag is not a get out of jail free card.
and you will technically be breaking a whole other set of regs by using a farm tagged trailer to go recreating |
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Location: East Texas | No, but with my license it will allow me to be over 26K.
Along with an ag exemption registration number, here is the requirement to get farm tag on your trailer in TX
The Farm Trailer/Semitrailer will be used exclusively to transport seasonally harvested agricultural products or livestock from the place of production to the place of process, market, or storage; or farm supplies from the place of loading to the farm. The vehicle may be used to allow farmer/ranchers to participate in equine activities or attend livestock shows
I am glad you are concerned for me, but if you read that last sentence carefully, you will see that this will cover me as far as licencing.
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Location: SE KS | fulltiltfilly - 2018-01-11 11:56 AM Dinero10 - 2018-01-10 9:47 AM Heads up people - In El Dorado, KS this "WEEK" everyone read this "week." A lady was taking her horse to the vet and she was stopped by a DOT
checking to see if she had her CDL - no - she is a local lady - he shut her down and would not allow her to take the horse to the vet. She has been fined $326 and the husband who does have a CDL had to take the horse on to the vet - they had a 4/5 horse trailer. so she was local , going to her local vet, and they still shut her down and fined.....
Was she over 26001? I am going to assume she was since they shut her down and would only allow a CDL driver behind the wheel.
So I beleive you answered your own question.
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Location: Jersey Girl | Dinero10 - 2018-01-11 4:05 PM fulltiltfilly - 2018-01-11 11:56 AM Dinero10 - 2018-01-10 9:47 AM Heads up people - In El Dorado, KS this "WEEK" everyone read this "week." A lady was taking her horse to the vet and she was stopped by a DOT
checking to see if she had her CDL - no - she is a local lady - he shut her down and would not allow her to take the horse to the vet. She has been fined $326 and the husband who does have a CDL had to take the horse on to the vet - they had a 4/5 horse trailer. so she was local , going to her local vet, and they still shut her down and fined.....
Was she over 26001? I am going to assume she was since they shut her down and would only allow a CDL driver behind the wheel.
I was asking just to see if it was a weight issue or if they were doing based off of something else in the mandate (that maybe I wasnt aware of) |
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Location: Texas | 3canstorun - 2018-01-09 12:48 PM rushlvr - 2018-01-09 1:24 PM thank you. its so freaking confusing so we don't need a cdl because we are under 26001 but need a medical card? jesus no wonder nobody can figure this crap out coming to it late in the game. Yes that is it. 10,001 and over everyone needs a medical card. 26,001 and over a CDL.
I’m on the page now and it also states I need a DOT number if over 10,001 pounds. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | CrossDRanch - 2018-01-11 12:24 PM No, but with my license it will allow me to be over 26K. Along with an ag exemption registration number, here is the requirement to get farm tag on your trailer in TX The Farm Trailer/Semitrailer will be used exclusively to transport seasonally harvested agricultural products or livestock from the place of production to the place of process, market, or storage; or farm supplies from the place of loading to the farm. The vehicle may be used to allow farmer/ranchers to participate in equine activities or attend livestock shows I am glad you are concerned for me, but if you read that last sentence carefully, you will see that this will cover me as far as licencing.
TBTG, we have some folks in TX with common sense. I think its time for me to sit down at the table while our DOT guy eats lunch. I need some clarification... |
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Location: 65 miles from the nearest Wal-Mart | It's pretty clear there is an insane amount of confusion surrounding this issue. Maybe this Facebook Group will help?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/580112742380794/ |
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| For those of you that don't know, just open the driver's side door of your pickup and look for a white sticker. Your truck's weight is on it. Also, most trailers have a weight sticker with empty weight and recommended weight limit. |
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