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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-02 11:00 AM
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Bear - 2016-11-02 10:15 AM
John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us?
So true however this is the Clinton's it will get down to the meaning of what "Dumped" is. After all the Clinton's OWN everyone that could do anything about their crimes.
I noticed that the spokesman for the Clinton campaign did not question the authenticity or veracity of Podesta's email. They took a different angle. They tried to say that Podesta meant that the emails had to be "moved" somewhere, as opposed to deleted or destroyed by bleach bit.
When I find rotten food in my fridge, I "dump" it in the trash or the garbage disposal. When I get a copy of my tax return from my accountant, I don't "dump" it.....I move it off my desk and store it where I can find it. When people have things they need to keep, they don't "dump" them.
We are dealing with some corrupt, lying, criminal bastards in this bunch, let me tell you.
I agree But they will fall back on their usual play book divert ,delay,and attack the accuser. And blackmail is not out of the question.
All Hillary is doing out on the stump is try to stir up the anti-Trump voters by calling him sexist, racist, and Islamophobic. She isn't really touting any of her own message or plans....just anti-Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump is hitting back hard on the emails and corruption, followed by his message on his own plans......like repeal and replace ObamaCare. Looks like he's gaining traction. I hope it's enough. | |
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jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
This is exactly what has happened in Illinois many times. The cesspool, Chicago, votes Democratic while the rest of the state had more Republicans but we got out voted. I also think the electoral votes should be given accordingly...not winner take all. That is screwed up.
That's an interesting idea, NTO. Maybe instead of winner take all (with the 2 exceptions of Nebraska and Maine ), maybe it should be revised to reflect the congressional districts and states, just like the Great Compromise of 1787. Each state would have 2 electoral votes, just like the Senate, and each congressional district would have 1 electoral vote. I like that. Of course one would have to take into account territories like Puerto Rico, DC, and Guam, but that shouldn't be hard. I think I would actually prefer this. Obviously, that would require a constitutional amendment.
It does not take an Amendment it is spelled out in Art, II it clearly gives the right to the states. What it takes is to get it on the ballot in every state. It can be done but after each Presidentual election everyone looses interest until the next four years rolls around. | |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | star1218 - 2016-11-02 10:27 AM jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state. I feel my voice would be heard better from a popular vote - winner take all - type of situation. If I vote against the way my state leans my vote doesn't make a lick of difference. Plus based on population all the midwestern states are heavily out weighed by available Electoral votes of the coastal states. I don't want to argue about the EC, it is what it is, those are just my thoughts on how frustrating it is to hear over and over that Trump is everyone's favorite and everyone hates Hilary, yet she picks up these big states and bam , she wins.
you see what I mean, I hope.
Just my thoughts.
it would not be heard at all.
With out the current system and a st8 popular vote, the major metro areas in our country would elect every federal official.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-11-02 11:32 AM
star1218 - 2016-11-02 10:27 AM jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.  I feel my voice would be heard better from a popular vote - winner take all - type of situation. If I vote against the way my state leans my vote doesn't make a lick of difference. Plus based on population all the midwestern states are heavily out weighed by available Electoral votes of the coastal states. I don't want to argue about the EC, it is what it is, those are just my thoughts on how frustrating it is to hear over and over that Trump is everyone's favorite and everyone hates Hilary, yet she picks up these big states and bam , she wins.
you see what I mean, I hope.
Just my thoughts.
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With out the current system and a st8 popular vote, the major metro areas in our country would elect every federal official.Â
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I agree. The basics of this debate goes back as far as the Republic. | |
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  Location: Arkansas | NJJ - 2016-11-02 8:55 AM
I think that you should do a little background checking before believing this man.....Yes, he has government ties but that ended years ago and he is a writer of FICTION .....here are just a few of his "oops" ......... Edited to add: He is also a very good friend of Assad (Syrian President)
 In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[ The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes."
What about this page??
hillary huma sex ring
Insiders Threaten To Expose “Alleged” Pedophile Sex Ring!!!
All of the following information was given to us by our insiders who have specific first-hand knowledge of the Hillary Email scandal. It seems that things are about to heat up. We are told that of the 662,871 emails lifted from Weiner’s computer, 11,112 emails are Huma… and pay to play- including Saudis and Israeli’s. Meaning Huma was the one Hillary USED to communicate with foreign leaders via email for inside information and deals via Huma’s computer.
It has been established through many avenues, but mainly through Wikileaks, that the Clinton Foundation was just a farce set up in order to perform Pay-to-Play games with multiple entities, including foreign nations. Pay-to-play nations include: Israel, Saudis, Turks, Qatar, kazakhstan, and the Ukraine.
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Futhermore, we are told by one of our insiders that one email unequivocally confirms Isis was created by CIA and Israeli Secret Intelligence service, with help from Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Lindsay Graham!
An NYPD insider said the content they viewed did include State Department TOP SECRET emails. One file was called “Life Insurance”. The second email was titled “DNC Nuclear arsenal”.
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A third file, I’m sure Hillary definitely DOES NOT want released was a file labeled “Intimate” … according to this NYPD insider, this file contained x rated photos of Huma and Hillary with a TEENAGER.
Twitter comments pedophile rings w hillary
NYPD detectives were sickened by what they saw, according to our insider, and they have threatened FBI field agents that they would leak this information, if the FBI did not “step up and take off the kids gloves”. At that point, 13 of the FBI agents in NYC are also threatening to leak the information.
As you can imagine, the scandal has the entire Obama Administration in full panic. We are told there are emails that could send Loretta Lynch to prison, as well as Bill and Hillary.The Twitter post to the right, our sources sent us, verifying it is all true:
Even MORE!
The following information comes straight from an FBI Anonymous source, who is the senior analyst who posted on 4chan in early July of this year:
Jim Comey learned that some of his own investigators were tipping off both Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton, thus making his job impossible.
Comey sent a letter to congress knowing that ultimately, it would expose Loretta Lynch as a dirty actor and the bread crumbs would lead directly to Obama. The State Dept is terrified now. He has assembled a small team of 40 agents, whom he has declared the “Untouchables” after the famous federal agent, Eliot Ness.
Comey has clamped down on all FBI agents and he expects a full scale war between FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ), the White House and the State Department. He has confirmed and understands that many sitting senators, congressmen, lobbyists and power players are going to be indicted and prosecuted. One of the main targets of the probe is the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative. Among the targets under investigation are Podesta, Huma, Cheryl Mills, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc.
As it turns out, Weiner, Huma’s husband, had been forwarding Huma’s emails each time she came home and left her computer open. Huma appears to have been in touch with Saudi actors, and therefore, ESPIONAGE is strongly suspected.
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Comey and his 40 “Untouchables” are now preparing to take down the largest corruption ever witnessed in American History… which, is what I think MUST happen if Comey is planning to stay part of the FBI. He lost so much respect and so much credibility with the first Hillary investigation, it would take something of this magnitude to allow him to face the public again.
The Pentagon has internal players and outside players they call “creatives”. Creatives are civilians who tend to be geniuses, malcontents, extreme hackers, or otherwise demonstrate brilliance in other useful areas. A Pentagon program called Cicada 3301, which we have reported on previously, was created by several of these talented civilians. The program is now used to allow thousands of honest Government people to report on their corrupt superiors, using what is called a DEAD BOX whistle blower encryption method so the non-corrupted Government officials can report corruption and still remain safe.
I’ve heard it said “A vagina almost took down Bill, now will a Weiner take down Hillary?” LOL!
Again, thank you to all of the insiders, the whistleblowers, the good FBI agents, the good CIA agents, the good NYPD officers and the non-corrupted government officials who want to see the truth exposed! Without these brave, wonderful and morally erect individuals, our country would still be in the corrupted darkness.
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Vistors to Epstein’s St James Island include
•Ehud Barak, the former Prime Minister of Israel (1999-2001) – pedophile being pandered underage girls by Epstein. Former Israeli Minister of Defense and also deputy Israeli prime minister under Binyamin Netanyahu from 2009 to 2013.
•Prince Andrew – British royalty – Jeffrey Epstein and his girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell pandered Epstein sex slave Virginia Roberts to Prince Andrew multiple times. The victim girls say Prince Andrew was very sexually sadistic; they despised this sick, twisted creature.
•Kevin Spacey – actor in House of Cards. People tell me Spacey is gay and my response is “Have you ever heard of the word bisexual?” Spacey very good friends with 2 bigtime pedophiles: Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton. Spacey, big Hollywood star, has 3.78 million Twitter followers.
•Alan Dershowitz – longtime friend of Epstein as well as one of his defense lawyers. Dershowitz was the one who negociated that aburd plea bargain for Epstein that gave him a 13 months (served) sentence and a 16 hour/day day pass so he could spend most of his time in his mansion. Epstein sex slave Virginia Roberts has said that Epstein made her have sex with Dershowitz numerous times. The real question is how many other underage girls was Dershowitz having sex with? Virginia Roberts says Dershowitz also witnessed Epstein’s pedophilic activities.
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             Location: North Texas | slacy09 - 2016-11-02 9:08 AM
star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you?
I totally agree....why is is not just straight popular vote??Â
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| Here's what you've been waiting for. The proverbial smoking gun. FBI just released Vince Foster investigation. https://vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster/vincent-foster-part-01-of-04/view
Deeemed suicide. Prints on gun are not his.
?FBI is declaring war on HRC
?Also, just breaking; A Boston lawfirm funneled millions into DNC illegally. It just keeps getting crazier.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 1:18 PM Here's what you've been waiting for. The proverbial smoking gun. FBI just released Vince Foster investigation. https://vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster/vincent-foster-part-01-of-04/view
Deeemed suicide. Prints on gun are not his.
?FBI is declaring war on HRC
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| http://truepundit.com/breaking-bombshell-nypd-blows-whistle
I am not sure about the credibility of this site but they are quoting the NYPD chief of police here. I think the entire nation is in for a sickening ride. | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-02 1:24 PM RidenFly - 2016-11-02 1:18 PM Here's what you've been waiting for. The proverbial smoking gun. FBI just released Vince Foster investigation. https://vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster/vincent-foster-part-01-of-04/view
Deeemed suicide. Prints on gun are not his.
?FBI is declaring war on HRC Holy crap balls.
I agree Holy crap balls, lol..This sounded funny.. But really this stuff just keeps getting deeper and deeper.. | |
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| The sex ring is looking to be true. One of the planes used in something called the Lolita express. DOJ KADZIK who gave heads up on Emails promised a job within the DNC/Hillary Camp. | |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | luluwhit - 2016-11-02 10:13 AM NJJ - 2016-11-02 9:55 AM I think that you should do a little background checking before believing this man.....Yes, he has government ties but that ended years ago and he is a writer of FICTION .....here are just a few of his "oops" ......... Edited to add: He is also a very good friend of Assad (Syrian President)
In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA
He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[
The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes." we can all quote wikipedia NJJ
What you left out was his 30 years of service to the nation in intellegence and up till 2012 his presence on the council of foreign relations.... dont you think that maybe he was removed from this circle because they knew or saw him as an impending threat.
his video may have no credence but someone is behind commey opening back up the investagations and hillary is increasingly agitated in highligh reels and feeds of her rallys.
I think you missed the point regarding this man's recent credibility....and of course, anyone can quote Wikipedia but I am sure I can find LOTS more about this man if I wanted ..... | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | All along the focus in Hillary's emails and illegal home server has been that she has passed classified information along through this server. That's not the REAL problem. The REAL problem is the 33,000 emails she thought were deleted or "bleached", because they contained a treasure trove of indisputable, irrefutable, incriminating influence that jeopardized "Clinton Inc." This is looking more and more like Watergate with each passing day. The Clinton Inc tentacles are widespread and far reaching.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 2:01 PM
Just updated #PodestaEmails Â
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| Bear - 2016-11-03 12:14 PM RidenFly - 2016-11-02 2:01 PM Just updated #PodestaEmails
What does this mean?
Twitter hashtag that is exposing a lot of info on what is being released today, including Vince Foster files by FBI, actual emails, the evidence of pedophile ring on Epstien's plane and private island. There is so much breaking, it's making me sick to read it all. The level of corruption and sickness is staggering. | |
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 2:41 PM The sex ring is looking to be true. One of the planes used in something called the Lolita express. DOJ KADZIK who gave heads up on Emails promised a job within the DNC/Hillary Camp.
Here's the run down on the Lolita Express.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-secret-service-on-multiple-lo/ | |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 3:16 PM Bear - 2016-11-03 12:14 PM RidenFly - 2016-11-02 2:01 PM Just updated #PodestaEmails
What does this mean? Twitter hashtag that is exposing a lot of info on what is being released today, including Vince Foster files by FBI, actual emails, the evidence of pedophile ring on Epstien's plane and private island. There is so much breaking, it's making me sick to read it all. The level of corruption and sickness is staggering.
so why keep reading it?
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       Location: TEXAS | So what in the world does all this mean....I mean the big picture?? Is she finally going to prison?? | |
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