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| ThreeCorners - 2014-09-24 3:18 PM
No I'm not buying the colic either. Another article I read the vet isnt buying it either and stated they should have the bone marrow examined because appearantly according to that vet they can still determine if those horses died from starvation/malnutrition by the bone marrow.
It is a simple test and many vet labs are equipped to do it - I'd be willing to be that CSU can do it too.
This whole thing STINKS and makes me sick that these people believe it was acceptable to treat animals like this ... I wonder how they treat people???!!!  |
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Anothet great cutting horse was starved and had to be put down in a different neglect case. Makes me sick how a horse can give a person so much can be treated so pourly.
I hate this black cloud of an industry I love and cherish so much, just cant understand it.
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| There is absolutley no excuse for this... people try and blame the economy, overcrowded sale barns, poor market, no slaughter, etc etc etc...
But honestly the people who do this are sick souls. We have a guy up here who's been doing it for years. People have offered to help him, buy horses, train them, re-home, etc etc... he will tell you these are his animals and hes doing nothing wrong.
He finally had a few seized from him but I am sure he will have plenty starving again real soon. This has been going on my entire life.
Sure people run across hard times but most often, they dont do what is necessary. People bite off more than they can chew, refuse to make sacrifices and then plea for mercy.
This is unexcusable and one day they punishment will be much harsher than a misdemeanor. One day.... I will make sure that happens! |
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Location: Sorrow Not! Defending against workplace bullies | stayceem - 2014-09-24 7:17 PM
There is absolutley no excuse for this... people try and blame the economy, overcrowded sale barns, poor market, no slaughter, etc etc etc...
But honestly the people who do this are sick souls. We have a guy up here who's been doing it for years. People have offered to help him, buy horses, train them, re-home, etc etc... he will tell you these are his animals and hes doing nothing wrong.
He finally had a few seized from him but I am sure he will have plenty starving again real soon. This has been going on my entire life.
Sure people run across hard times but most often, they dont do what is necessary. People bite off more than they can chew, refuse to make sacrifices and then plea for mercy.
This is unexcusable and one day they punishment will be much harsher than a misdemeanor. One day.... I will make sure that happens!
Can you get the media involved with the starving horses at your neighbor's? That certainly seemed to help in the Black Forest case. These stories just haunt me. Another thing to do is call your state legislator to get the laws changed so the penalties are stiffer. Just google your legislators name and call or email them. |
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| ninaom - 2014-09-24 10:55 PM
stayceem - 2014-09-24 7:17 PM
There is absolutley no excuse for this... people try and blame the economy, overcrowded sale barns, poor market, no slaughter, etc etc etc...
But honestly the people who do this are sick souls. We have a guy up here who's been doing it for years. People have offered to help him, buy horses, train them, re-home, etc etc... he will tell you these are his animals and hes doing nothing wrong.
He finally had a few seized from him but I am sure he will have plenty starving again real soon. This has been going on my entire life.
Sure people run across hard times but most often, they dont do what is necessary. People bite off more than they can chew, refuse to make sacrifices and then plea for mercy.
This is unexcusable and one day they punishment will be much harsher than a misdemeanor. One day.... I will make sure that happens!
Can you get the media involved with the starving horses at your neighbor's? That certainly seemed to help in the Black Forest case. These stories just haunt me. Another thing to do is call your state legislator to get the laws changed so the penalties are stiffer. Just google your legislators name and call or email them.
They did finally organize something which drew media attention and law enforcement took action. That created the most change but I just dont have a lot of faith he wont do it again. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-24 11:36 PM Good Job,, AQHA
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http://www.krdo.com/news/broker-says-owner-of-seized-horses-paid-more-than-15-million-for-animals/28237416
ETA: 1.5 million not 15. LOL like that makes it better.
A quote from the comments section that fits. "There seems to be no explanation for some people's priorities, especially when it comes to money."
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| ThreeCorners - 2014-09-24 4:18 PM No I'm not buying the colic either. Another article I read the vet isnt buying it either and stated they should have the bone marrow examined because appearantly according to that vet they can still determine if those horses died from starvation/malnutrition by the bone marrow.
This is true. I saw it on a nature documentary (that means I'm an expert!) JK
Anyway, the program was following Yellowstone rangers/researchers in finding the cause(s) of death of various animals in the park. One was a bison that was pretty decomposed/eaten with no obvious cause of death. They broke open one of its leg bones and found that the animal's bone marrow had deteriorated due to starvation. It was pretty obvious and noticable. It would be a simple test for the vets, providing that the bodies are not too decomposed. It could put the owner of these poor horses in deep crap...which I hope will happen. I don't know how long the bone marrow evidence would last, though.
The more you know! *rainbows everywhere*
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | From the article above:
" In addition to Dual Peppy, Brunzell had two other champion horses in the barn. One stallion was named Playin' in Style and had won money in equestrian competitions. Another horse was named Playboys Madera and was a three-time world champion in an equestrian event.
Horse trainer Carrie Terroux-Barrett said the cheapest horse Brunzell owned was still $25,000.
Terroux-Barrett estimates there are $2 million worth of dead horses in the Black Forest barn."
Ugh, more names to go with the dead and starving horses? Just makes me sick. Wether they were famous horses or ordinary pets...they suffered at the hands of a heartless group of people. Sherry will likely never get what she deserves...but if people shout loudly enough hopefully she will get the MAX punishment and no one ever sells her so much as a pet rock ever again.
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2014-09-25 7:53 AM
ThreeCorners - 2014-09-24 4:18 PM No I'm not buying the colic either. Another article I read the vet isnt buying it either and stated they should have the bone marrow examined because appearantly according to that vet they can still determine if those horses died from starvation/malnutrition by the bone marrow.
This is true. I saw it on a nature documentary (that means I'm an expert!) JK
Anyway, the program was following Yellowstone rangers/researchers in finding the cause(s) of death of various animals in the park. One was a bison that was pretty decomposed/eaten with no obvious cause of death. They broke open one of its leg bones and found that the animal's bone marrow had deteriorated due to starvation. It was pretty obvious and noticable. It would be a simple test for the vets, providing that the bodies are not too decomposed. It could put the owner of these poor horses in deep crap...which I hope will happen. I don't know how long the bone marrow evidence would last, though.
The more you know! *rainbows everywhere*
The test you are referring to is pretty simple and there is more than one way to determine starvation as a cause of death.
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| lindseylou2290 - 2014-09-25 9:19 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-09-25 7:53 AM ThreeCorners - 2014-09-24 4:18 PM No I'm not buying the colic either. Another article I read the vet isnt buying it either and stated they should have the bone marrow examined because appearantly according to that vet they can still determine if those horses died from starvation/malnutrition by the bone marrow.
This is true. I saw it on a nature documentary (that means I'm an expert!) JK
Anyway, the program was following Yellowstone rangers/researchers in finding the cause(s) of death of various animals in the park. One was a bison that was pretty decomposed/eaten with no obvious cause of death. They broke open one of its leg bones and found that the animal's bone marrow had deteriorated due to starvation. It was pretty obvious and noticable. It would be a simple test for the vets, providing that the bodies are not too decomposed. It could put the owner of these poor horses in deep crap...which I hope will happen. I don't know how long the bone marrow evidence would last, though.
The more you know! *rainbows everywhere*
The test you are referring to is pretty simple and there is more than one way to determine starvation as a cause of death.
I know....I was just elaborating on the bone marrow thing. |
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2014-09-25 8:28 AM
lindseylou2290 - 2014-09-25 9:19 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-09-25 7:53 AM ThreeCorners - 2014-09-24 4:18 PM No I'm not buying the colic either. Another article I read the vet isnt buying it either and stated they should have the bone marrow examined because appearantly according to that vet they can still determine if those horses died from starvation/malnutrition by the bone marrow.
This is true. I saw it on a nature documentary (that means I'm an expert!) JK
Anyway, the program was following Yellowstone rangers/researchers in finding the cause(s) of death of various animals in the park. One was a bison that was pretty decomposed/eaten with no obvious cause of death. They broke open one of its leg bones and found that the animal's bone marrow had deteriorated due to starvation. It was pretty obvious and noticable. It would be a simple test for the vets, providing that the bodies are not too decomposed. It could put the owner of these poor horses in deep crap...which I hope will happen. I don't know how long the bone marrow evidence would last, though.
The more you know! *rainbows everywhere*
The test you are referring to is pretty simple and there is more than one way to determine starvation as a cause of death.
yup no worries :)
This whole thing just blows. If people were responsible, this whole thing wouldn't be an issue. Money gets the best of people and their morals more often than not ... uck. My Dad has said it before and I think he's spot on - If you'd like to see the true character of a person, give 'em a ton of money; then sit back and watch. |
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Location: Tennessee | Nobody take this the wrong way at all, what has happened is awful. However, if Playboys Madera was in the barn, she would've been 32. Just seems unlikely to me given that she was already older and the obvious standard of care that was not met... http://www.qhd.com/horse/stallion.asp?id=30679&sex=Mare
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| lindseylou2290 - 2014-09-25 9:41 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-09-25 8:28 AM lindseylou2290 - 2014-09-25 9:19 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-09-25 7:53 AM ThreeCorners - 2014-09-24 4:18 PM No I'm not buying the colic either. Another article I read the vet isnt buying it either and stated they should have the bone marrow examined because appearantly according to that vet they can still determine if those horses died from starvation/malnutrition by the bone marrow.
This is true. I saw it on a nature documentary (that means I'm an expert!) JK
Anyway, the program was following Yellowstone rangers/researchers in finding the cause(s) of death of various animals in the park. One was a bison that was pretty decomposed/eaten with no obvious cause of death. They broke open one of its leg bones and found that the animal's bone marrow had deteriorated due to starvation. It was pretty obvious and noticable. It would be a simple test for the vets, providing that the bodies are not too decomposed. It could put the owner of these poor horses in deep crap...which I hope will happen. I don't know how long the bone marrow evidence would last, though.
The more you know! *rainbows everywhere*
The test you are referring to is pretty simple and there is more than one way to determine starvation as a cause of death. yup no worries : ) This whole thing just blows. If people were responsible, this whole thing wouldn't be an issue. Money gets the best of people and their morals more often than not ... uck. My Dad has said it before and I think he's spot on - If you'd like to see the true character of a person, give 'em a ton of money; then sit back and watch.
Isn't that the truth. Sad, sad, sad, and the animals will lose every time.
It just doesn't make sense. This woman is either very, very sick or is just evil. I don't understand how you could buy 1.5 million worth of champion horses and let them die a slow and painful death or not protect your investment at all. It's not like these animals were back yard bred flusterclucks that couldn't be sold. They were some of the best. Even after removing all the emotion from this senario...it still doesn't make sense.
To put it plainly..this whole thing is just effed up.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i think she is a nut job who enjoyed watching those animals suffer and die and got a real kick out of controlling it............i hope there is a special place in hell for her.........right next to that evil thing that killed cc..........
she has a court date 31-dec-2014
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Location: Post Falls, ID | I read that there were a few more stallions that were rescued along with Dual Peppy. I believe this is one of them. Dual McCool
https://web.archive.org/web/20080719164457/http://www.dualpeppy.com/DualMcCool.htm
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