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Location: Where I am happiest | There was 2 different law suits filed THIS YEAR against Cruz's eligability and BOTH courts ruled he IS in fact eligable and is a LEGAL Natural born citizen. Same as when someone is in the military and deployed over seas and his wife gives birth in whatever country they are in at the time. That baby, is a natural born citizen dispite being born in another country. |
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Location: Kansas | ThreeCorners - 2016-05-09 6:26 AM Frodo - 2016-05-05 8:50 PM Well, this is interesting, Ben Carson counted himself out as a VP nominee and indicated he thinks Trump might pick a Dem VP.
I have read a couple different news articles stating Trump is very seriously looking at Jim Webb. He is a Democrat. However..he was a republican not to many years ago before switching parties. He is a decorated retired Navy Seal and served in the Reagon Administration as assistant secretary of defence. He is very pro second ammendment. It just may be a genious move on Trumps part. I have never voted blue in my life, but I would vote for Webb. I could see a move like that solidifying the independant votes and those on the left who are vacating the lefts agenda. I believe it would also help get things done in the house and senate reaching across the isle. Webb is accepted by both parties.
Interesting point.......
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | OregonBR - 2016-05-08 10:15 PM OregonBR - 2016-05-07 9:38 AM NJJ - 2016-05-06 5:01 PM OregonBR - 2016-05-06 5:49 PM It doesn't matter what the 1790 law says. There is more recent law for when he was born. Would you care to share that law? ???? Why don't you guys do your own research? I've read several "papers" written by scholars about the subject. Here's one. Knock yourself out. I love how people here always deny, deny, deny but don't ever READ what's given to them to support the opinion. If you want another illegal in the highest office of our government, I'm not going to help you. Obama wasn't held to account for his illegal run for office and might never be. I can't believe you people will hide your heads in the sand YET AGAIN! http://northamericanlawcenter.org/ted-cruz-is-in-the-u-s-senate-ill... DID YOU READ THAT? WHY DO I HAVE TO DO ALL YOUR WORK FOR YOU?
Neither of your sources have a legal background to make any kind of determination. The video features an "author" who wrote the Secret of OZ (impressive?) and the "expert" of the article that you posted is certainly NOT a legal scholar either. Here is his link....http://www.capitolhilloutsider.com/our-writers/jb-williams/ Edited by NJJ 2016-05-09 8:08 AM
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | NJJ - 2016-05-07 2:22 PM
Anniemae - 2016-05-07 1:59 PM FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-05-07 6:40 AM I know it is a common talking point for Trump supporters to repeat his claim that he self funds. Trump has loaned his campaign $36 million dollars that can be paid back through campaign donations. While he claims self funding, he has now turned to general election campaign donation requests since a run will cost well over a billion dollars. His new financial guru was the head of a bank that enjoyed bailouts from the government, made millions of dollars, then foreclosed on over 30,000 families. A good thing to keep in mind with Trump is not everything he says is based in fact, in fact not anything. But if you are ok with that, more power to you.
He has opened up his election to donations. Â Any businessman worth his salt would, not even Trump is crazy enough to ransack his entire fortune against the Clinton machine. Would you bet everyting you had on the voting public? Â I wouldn't.
You may not like the presumptive nominee, you may not want to support him, you may even detest him. Â What is the alternative? This election will be voting against the opposite party, not necessarily because you support/back the candidate of your party.  Â
May not matter.... But I heard Trump say on an interview on Fox News that he had loaned the money to his campaign. During that interview he didn't make it sound like it just handed it over and that was that. He also stated that he could fund his general run, all he had to do was sell a building. But he was not going to do that, he was going to take donations. Anyways like I said probably doesn't matter and this interview was within the last couple of weeks. |
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Location: SW New Mexico | Frodo - 2016-05-10 6:28 AM
ThreeCorners - 2016-05-09 6:26 AM Frodo - 2016-05-05 8:50 PM Well, this is interesting, Ben Carson counted himself out as a VP nominee and indicated he thinks Trump might pick a Dem VP. Â
  I have read a couple different news articles stating Trump is very seriously looking at Jim Webb. He is a Democrat. However..he was a republican not to many years ago before switching parties. He is a decorated retired Navy Seal and served in the Reagon Administration as assistant secretary of defence. He is very pro second ammendment. It just may be a genious move on Trumps part. I have never voted blue in my life, but I would vote for Webb. I could see a move like that solidifying the independant votes and those on the left who are vacating the lefts agenda. I believe it would also help get things done in the house and senate reaching across the isle. Webb is accepted by both parties.
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I'm now a Independent.
Got tired of having to be in a box for one party or another..
I like the idea of Jim Webb. He's a good person.
He also got shafted by Hillary, and Bern, and was overlooked..
He may help heal the rift between the 2 parties..
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-05-06 1:23 AM READ TWICE OR THRICE UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS HAPPENING WITH HILLARY AND OBAMA SUPREME COURT JUDGES .. I'm certain most Americans still don't understand how very important this is. The Constitution of the United States is on the line. If Hillary is elected, our constitution will mean nothing. If Tump is elected, we have a 50/50 shot at it still meaning something.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | TXBO - 2016-05-09 11:27 AM BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-05-06 1:23 AM READ TWICE OR THRICE UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS HAPPENING WITH HILLARY AND OBAMA SUPREME COURT JUDGES .. I'm certain most Americans still don't understand how very important this is. The Constitution of the United States is on the line. If Hillary is elected, our constitution will mean nothing. If Tump is elected, we have a 50/50 shot at it still meaning something.
If a liberal ends up picking the next Supreme Justices, just say Adios America. Welcome to the Socialist States of America. |
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Location: Kansas | .....and to morons who think socialism is a good idea, take a good look at Russia and Cuba.
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| It's not just capitalism that is at stake. It's every natural and enumerated right that we hold dear. I truly fear for my children. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | TXBO - 2016-05-09 1:00 PM It's not just capitalism that is at stake. It's every natural and enumerated right that we hold dear. I truly fear for my children.
I also fear for our daughter and grandson. Already my grandson doesn't have a clue what it is to grow up in the real America. Our daughter has and is scared for his future as she watches her future change along with America. |
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Location: Sweet Home Alabama | Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 5:38 PM
Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote.
That's interesting. What's your secret? So you can determine he's "not a man of God"? Care to elaborate? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ThreeCorners - 2016-05-09 6:37 AM
 There was 2 different law suits filed THIS YEAR against Cruz's eligability and BOTH courts ruled he IS in fact eligable and is a LEGAL Natural born citizen. Same as when someone is in the military and deployed over seas and his wife gives birth in whatever country they are in at the time. That baby, is a natural born citizen dispite being born in another country.
What's the point of debating his citizenship? He has been soundly defeated. |
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Location: Sweet Home Alabama | Bear - 2016-05-09 6:19 PM
Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 5:38 PM
Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote.
That's interesting. What's your secret? So you can determine he's "not a man of God"? Care to elaborate?
I guess my secret is reading the Bible and knowing Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of my life.... That's the only answer I can come up with for that question.
Any man who attacks a woman who did nothing to provoke him
is not a man of God. I'm referring to Heidi Cruz here. And I mean, go to his twitter. He accuses people of things they have never done and he calls them disgusting things only because they do not support him. He is a liar. He is a hypocrite. I'm far from perfect and not the most intelligent by far, but I know the definition of a biblical man (the older I get the more thankful I am that I was raised by one) and Donald Trump is not a biblical man. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 7:29 PM Bear - 2016-05-09 6:19 PM Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 5:38 PM Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote. That's interesting. What's your secret? So you can determine he's "not a man of God"? Care to elaborate? I guess my secret is reading the Bible and knowing Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of my life.... That's the only answer I can come up with for that question. Any man who attacks a woman who did nothing to provoke him is not a man of God. I'm referring to Heidi Cruz here. And I mean, go to his twitter. He accuses people of things they have never done and he calls them disgusting things only because they do not support him. He is a liar. He is a hypocrite. I'm far from perfect and not the most intelligent by far, but I know the definition of a biblical man (the older I get the more thankful I am that I was raised by one ) and Donald Trump is not a biblical man.
And you think the alternative is better?? I'll take Trump over Killary any day. What that woman has done Trumps, Trump's antics anyday. |
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| Ashton94 - 2016-05-10 3:38 PM Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote.
I respectfully have two arguments to this. First, we shouldn't judge who is godly, but let's say you're correct and Trump is not. There are several instances in the Bible where God used the ungodly to do his work.
Secondly, women cry out for equality. That means you have to be willing to be the crap catcher when it starts to fly. Politics is full of flying road apples and the Cruz family were well aware of this. Incidentally, Cruz did a good job tossing his own toward Trump.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 7:29 PM
Bear - 2016-05-09 6:19 PM
Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 5:38 PM
Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote.
That's interesting. What's your secret? So you can determine he's "not a man of God"? Care to elaborate?
I guess my secret is reading the Bible and knowing Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of my life.... That's the only answer I can come up with for that question.
Any man who attacks a woman who did nothing to provoke him
is not a man of God. I'm referring to Heidi Cruz here. And I mean, go to his twitter. He accuses people of things they have never done and he calls them disgusting things only because they do not support him. He is a liar. He is a hypocrite. I'm far from perfect and not the most intelligent by far, but I know the definition of a biblical man (the older I get the more thankful I am that I was raised by one ) and Donald Trump is not a biblical man.
Name our last "Biblical" president. |
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Location: Missouri | RidenFly - 2016-05-09 7:43 PM
Ashton94 - 2016-05-10 3:38 PM Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote.
I respectfully have two arguments to this. First, we shouldn't judge who is godly, but let's say you're correct and Trump is not. There are several instances in the Bible where God used the ungodly to do his work. Â
Secondly, women cry out for equality. That means you have to be willing to be the crap catcher when it starts to fly. Politics is full of flying road apples and the Cruz family were well aware of this. Incidentally, Cruz did a good job tossing his own toward Trump. Â
If you are truly faithful, then be faithful.  Everything is for a reason.Â
Riden, what you mentioned about the Bible recording instances where God used the ungodly for His purposes is absolutely true! I think it was mentioned a couple pages back, but thanks for mentioning it again. :) |
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Location: Florida.. | Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 8:29 PM Bear - 2016-05-09 6:19 PM Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 5:38 PM Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote. That's interesting. What's your secret? So you can determine he's "not a man of God"? Care to elaborate? I guess my secret is reading the Bible and knowing Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of my life.... That's the only answer I can come up with for that question. Any man who attacks a woman who did nothing to provoke him is not a man of God. I'm referring to Heidi Cruz here. And I mean, go to his twitter. He accuses people of things they have never done and he calls them disgusting things only because they do not support him. He is a liar. He is a hypocrite. I'm far from perfect and not the most intelligent by far, but I know the definition of a biblical man (the older I get the more thankful I am that I was raised by one ) and Donald Trump is not a biblical man.
No man of God is perfect... God knew we are not perfect.. but at least he hasnt murdered and he isnt anti american.. |
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Location: OH. IO | Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 8:29 PM
Bear - 2016-05-09 6:19 PM
Ashton94 - 2016-05-09 5:38 PM
Donald Trump is not a Christian nor is he a man of God. He is for big government and he has flipped back forth on issue stances. This is why he will not get my vote.
That's interesting. What's your secret? So you can determine he's "not a man of God"? Care to elaborate?
I guess my secret is reading the Bible and knowing Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of my life.... That's the only answer I can come up with for that question.
Any man who attacks a woman who did nothing to provoke him
is not a man of God. I'm referring to Heidi Cruz here. And I mean, go to his twitter. He accuses people of things they have never done and he calls them disgusting things only because they do not support him. He is a liar. He is a hypocrite. I'm far from perfect and not the most intelligent by far, but I know the definition of a biblical man (the older I get the more thankful I am that I was raised by one ) and Donald Trump is not a biblical man.
So you think Hillary is a person of God? Dear lord......we are in trouble.when a murderer gets picked over all others...I pray for forgiveness |
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