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bennie1
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-09-20 9:16 PM
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Β 1. Possible soreness. Save some $$ up and call Dr. Stacy Huntingdon out of Republic. She's pretty good with lameness...better than the average "vaccinate your calves, spay and neuter your dogs and cats vet. 2. Stacy rides dressage. Ask her if she knows of any clinics in the area you could go and watch for low price or free. Mouth shut and eyes/ears open, you can learn a lot.3. Go to youtube and watch horsemanship videos until your eyes bleed. Especially ones that focus on teaching a horse collection. You need to learn what a cadenced correct circle looks like, then try to educate yourself on how to produce that. There is a lot of information out there, you can educate yourself, to a certain degree, I would also set aside some money for some lessons from a decent trainer/horseman.
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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2013-09-20 9:17 PM
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fatchance - 2013-09-20 8:58 PM She hasn't a clue.Β  She is fat and I got dizzy on the two left turns.
She's not fat, she's been ridden all summer/spring long. I'm sorry you got dizzy.
SO tell us why and what you were trying to do by circling so many times to the left.Β  I love to learn.
To try and get her to circle and bend? Why in any question I post do you have to be so absolutely rude? All I am wanting to do is help my horse and learn as well and all you do is bash and get snappy.

Not snappy and bashing, Your horse hasn't a clue on what and why.Β 

IF you think I am rude, it was not my intent.Β  But you continue not to learn when so many here have given you fantastic advice.

Hope you get if figured out.

I just said up there a few comments back I WAS taking the advice. Geez, I wouldn't have asked this if I didn't want help.
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txaggiegal
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2013-09-20 9:18 PM
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Β  She looks short strided on the left, might just be your tall grass.
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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2013-09-20 9:19 PM
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bennie1 - 2013-09-20 9:16 PM

Β 1. Possible soreness. Save some $$ up and call Dr. Stacy Huntingdon out of Republic. She's pretty good with lameness...better than the average "vaccinate your calves, spay and neuter your dogs and cats vet. 2. Stacy rides dressage. Ask her if she knows of any clinics in the area you could go and watch for low price or free. Mouth shut and eyes/ears open, you can learn a lot.3. Go to youtube and watch horsemanship videos until your eyes bleed. Especially ones that focus on teaching a horse collection. You need to learn what a cadenced correct circle looks like, then try to educate yourself on how to produce that. There is a lot of information out there, you can educate yourself, to a certain degree, I would also set aside some money for some lessons from a decent trainer/horseman.

Do I go to her or will she come to me? Republic is about two hours from me.
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hlynn
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2013-09-20 9:20 PM
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I do think there is an underlying issue with your mare here. If it's been going on for awhile, then you need to get her checked out. If the chiro says she's fine, then move onto a good lameness vet. You may have to go out of the way to find one, but they're well worth it.

She may just need some hock injections. Or she may have a pulled muscle or something that just requires rest. If you leave it alone to get worse, you could end up with a ruined horse or YOU could get hurt if the horse would blow up on you one day.

We are all trying to help (Some more politely than others). A lameness exam would be a great place to start. With a good reliable vet. Then you can go from there.

Figure out what's going on with her, get her back with a good trainer who can also teach YOU how to get her to work for you, & you will BOTH be a whole lot happier.

Good luck.

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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2013-09-20 9:22 PM
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Any of you just think she's not cut out to be a barrel horse?
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bennie1
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-09-20 9:23 PM
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BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:19 PM

bennie1 - 2013-09-20 9:16 PM

Β 1. Possible soreness. Save some $$ up and call Dr. Stacy Huntingdon out of Republic. She's pretty good with lameness...better than the average "vaccinate your calves, spay and neuter your dogs and cats vet. 2. Stacy rides dressage. Ask her if she knows of any clinics in the area you could go and watch for low price or free. Mouth shut and eyes/ears open, you can learn a lot.3. Go to youtube and watch horsemanship videos until your eyes bleed. Especially ones that focus on teaching a horse collection. You need to learn what a cadenced correct circle looks like, then try to educate yourself on how to produce that. There is a lot of information out there, you can educate yourself, to a certain degree, I would also set aside some money for some lessons from a decent trainer/horseman.

Do I go to her or will she come to me? Republic is about two hours from me.

Β My bad. I thought you were closer to Republic than that from other posts about going to Carthage. You'd have to haul to her from that distance, and there's probably someone closer to you that is good with lameness.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-09-20 9:25 PM
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I just feel she doesnt stand a chance right now.

shes sore ,fix the issue,, take  lessons and then see  ... how old is she
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hlynn
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2013-09-20 9:25 PM
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BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 10:22 PM

Any of you just think she's not cut out to be a barrel horse?

If you don't fit with her as well as you'd like, then sell her. No sense keeping a horse you don't like.

But I do think she would be a different horse if you got her looked at & figured out where her pain is coming from.

Any horse can be a barrel horse. Some are just better than others at it.
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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2013-09-20 9:26 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2013-09-20 9:25 PM

I just feel she doesnt stand a chance rightΒ now.

shes sore ,fix the issue,,Β take Β lessons and then see Β ... how old is she

She's almost 10, she was wayyyyyyyy before I got her started on the barrel pattern at two. I think that's where her windpuffs came from.
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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2013-09-20 9:27 PM
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BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 10:22 PM

Any of you just think she's not cut out to be a barrel horse?

If you don't fit with her as well as you'd like, then sell her. No sense keeping a horse you don't like.

But I do think she would be a different horse if you got her looked at & figured out where her pain is coming from.

Any horse can be a barrel horse. Some are just better than others at it.

Noooooo. I never bought her intending for her to be a barrel horse she was just going to be trail but then I got into barrel racing. She will always be with me barrel racing or not.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-09-20 9:32 PM
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shes probrably fusing.. xrays and exam.. and be ready for injections if needed.. and please no more fast circles like that. that is a surefire way to destroy good joints.. ok.. then once you figure it out .. fix it and get lessons.. shes cute.. but she cant do well if shes hurting and you and her need some lessons.. good luck 
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StephanieNE
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2013-09-20 9:35 PM
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In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.

By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.

I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.

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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-09-20 9:36 PM
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Are you in MO or TX? I saw Bennie1 say something about Carthage....if you're close to Carthage, MO, I know someone you could take some lessons from that would be AWESOME.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-09-20 9:39 PM
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StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 10:35 PM In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse. By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot. I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.
agree to.. her back looks sore. and the horse is broke in half..

Edited by Bibliafarm 2013-09-20 9:44 PM
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runningkc
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2013-09-20 9:39 PM
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fatchance - 2013-09-20 8:58 PM She hasn't a clue.Β  She is fat and I got dizzy on the two left turns.
She's not fat, she's been ridden all summer/spring long. I'm sorry you got dizzy.

SO tell us why and what you were trying to do by circling so many times to the left.Β  I love to learn.

Sure not trying to attack you fatchance, but why the nasty under tones? The OP stated in her original post that "she sucked" and is obviously open to ideas and trying to learn. Your post is a perfect example of what I see much to often that I'm sure scares off new members and lurkers from asking for help.

Maybe you mean well, I don't know. If you do, it doesn't translate well through the computer screen. Many of us do many many things wrong as beginner (or even intermediate or advanced) horsewoman, and its hard enough as it is to admit ignorance and ask for help. Please don't contribute to making it harder.
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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2013-09-20 9:41 PM
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StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM

In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.

By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.

I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.


So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?

Edited by BaylenJaxs 2013-09-20 9:42 PM
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runningkc
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2013-09-20 9:43 PM
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StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM

In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.

By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.

I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.


THIS is how you tactfully give constructive criticism. Even with being "brutally honest", it's not meant to put down, only to help. BHW needs more Stephanie's :)
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runningkc
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2013-09-20 9:44 PM
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BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM

StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM

In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.

By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.

I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.


So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?

Andddd with that comment off I will go. Lol.
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StephanieNE
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2013-09-20 9:46 PM
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runningkc - 2013-09-20 9:44 PM

BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM

StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM

In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.

By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.

I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.


So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?

Andddd with that comment off I will go. Lol.

LOL!!!!!! Thank you for trying
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