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Location: Muskogee, OK | Thecowgirlinme - 2013-10-04 3:19 PM He has been on fluids for 48 hours with no changes. Now they are recommending peritoneal dialysis. Any experience with it?
I dont know enough about it to give you an accurate response.. But, from the cases I have seen with renal failure I think it is a last ditch effort. I believe it is pretty expensive with a lower success rate. I'm sorry :( |
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| I was afraid of that.
I've also now heard the guttural pouch infection could of been the cause of the kidney failure ?? |
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My gelding had colic surgery as a 2 yr old, reason to believe why his kidneys have failed, according to vets. However, good point on this, because I have to be very careful what I give my gelding, if he gets hurt, I actually prefer to give equine asprin instead of butte and try to avoid any pain medications in all. Antibiotics are another one I try to make sure he never gets. |
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Location: Florida.. | yes it can be the infection as well but some antibiotics are hard to flush thru the kidneys and can cause renal failure. Without fluids running constantly in them it can be hard on them.
MANY Prayers to your horse.. |
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| Ok, say he is on fluids for 5 days.
The vet believes it wasnt antibiotics or the infection.
He believes it was something toxic.
I do not know what in the world it would be.
BUT if I go get him, what can I do to nurse him through, old fashioned TLC. No more meds. Just love and old fashioned prayer?
Feed, electrolytes, water, pasture.
I know this is a LONG shot. But I am not going to just put him down because they say he isn't improving. But I cannot spend another check book full of Money. |
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Location: Florida.. | for your read... Veterinarians categorize kidney disease based on the length of time the signs of illness have persisted and the severity of the disorder. Acute renal failure is a temporary and sometimes curable form of kidney disease. Its onset is triggered by a sudden cessation of waste excretion, accompanied by electrolyte and water imbalance. According to Schott, acute renal failure is most often caused by a loss of blood volume due to colic, diarrhea, hemorrhage or severe dehydration. Ingested toxins and antibiotics administered to a dehydrated horse also may contribute to the onset of the condition.
if horse was dehydrated when administered antibiotics it could cause issues.. as well.. as toxins..without knowing or being a vet .. Id talk to your vet ..
did he get alfalfa (blister beetles ) by any chance.
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| We don't believed it was blister beetles because he was never colic-y, but I did ask them and they didn't think that was the case.
While he was home, he was on free choice electrolytes.
I doubt he was when he was there.
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Location: MS | If you have a vet close that does acupuncture I'd try that. I had one renal colic that just wouldn't pull out of it. Acupuncture turned him around after the first treatment. |
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| I believe giving banamine and gentamicin during his guttural pouch infection caused his kidneys to fail. |
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Location: Florida.. | so how is he today and what is your plans. |
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| He is still eating Nd drinking, bright and alert.
Urinating and pooping.
Didn't run blood today because its very expensive to run labs on Sunday.
Going to run labs in the morning.
He's coming home after.
Possibly doing fluids myself at home, partial days. Or slow drip.
Depends on what his bloodwork says in the morning.
Monitoring his diet and praying, a lot. |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | Just catching up with this.. Hoping to hear some better news. How did he do over the weekend?
As far as the antibiotics go, not all (in fact, very few) will cause renal failure. However, Aminoglycosides (which Gentamicin IS an aminoglycoside) can and have been shown through studies to cause toxic renal effects. I am surprised your vet isnt considering the fact that they could have caused this?
Hang in there! Something like this is so frustrating...not knowing what caused it and just having to wait it out hoping for the best.  |
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Location: Southwest Minnesota | I was wondering how your colt was doing...hoping and praying for good lab results in the morning. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sending good thoughts and prayers for your horse tomorrow |
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| I cannot thank you guys enough for the prayers.
I haven't heard yet today and I have called but they have not called me back.
I hope, pray, for good news.
He did great over the weekend, eating, drinking, peeing, pooping, alert and playful they said.
Just no changes in blood work as of Saturday AM.
We shall see today.... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Thecowgirlinme - 2013-10-07 12:59 PM I cannot thank you guys enough for the prayers. I haven't heard yet today and I have called but they have not called me back. I hope, pray, for good news. He did great over the weekend, eating, drinking, peeing, pooping, alert and playful they said. Just no changes in blood work as of Saturday AM. We shall see today....
We are waiting to hear right along with you, let us know as soon as you hear |
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| They just called :'(
No improvements in blood work, creatine levels still high.
The kidneys are not working on their own.
We are going to ultra sound this afternoon.
Then I'm bringing him home.
He said the results will be unfavorable outcome more than likely.
I hate this.
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