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rlw1118
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2013-11-19 10:33 PM
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ย sell her as a broodmare
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Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2013-11-19 10:40 PM
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Tie her to twine loops at the trailer. They will break free if she sets back.

Another thing that helped one of my horses was a bungee cord tie. I never left home without it .
Get him checked out and try to saddle him without tying like someone else suggested.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2013-11-19 10:47 PM
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hashope11 - 2013-11-19 10:21 PM

So how do you sell a horse with this type of issue? The previous owners were supposed to call me back but they never did (not real surprised knowing now what I do). Like I said she's bred to the hills & has a really nice build. I am honest and will be completely upfront to anyone about this. But are there people out there that would still consider her with this issue?

There are always people looking for deals, depending on the price you may or may not be able to sell her.

Myself I can handle a horse who is cinchy, pulls back, but I cannot handle horses that break in half at a dead run.

I also don't have hard to catch horses on my place.

You already know your limits and what is at risk, you may need to take a loss, and filter through a lot of tire kickers/firesale people
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-11-19 10:55 PM
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You said that this mare is bred, when is she due? And if shes got nice bloodlines and bred to a really nice stud I bet she wont be hard to resell as a broodmare only. Selling as 2 in 1 package,  
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hashope11
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-11-19 10:57 PM
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I myself like a project, but like I said this is too much for me. I saw her on BHW and bought her for $1250 which in my opinion she was worth just as a broodmare. So what is a reasonable price for a horse like this? Her registered name is Cashs Costly Tornado & like I said she's very well bred.
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hashope11
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-11-19 11:00 PM
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She's not bred. She supposedly had a bully bullion colt 3 years ago with the owners that had her before the people I got her from.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-11-19 11:04 PM
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Oh I'm sorry I thought that I read that she was bred, I'm bad  
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hashope11
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-11-19 11:07 PM
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That's okay!! Its getting late and if you're like me my eyes are starting to get buggy, looking at the screen!!
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Zanadoo88
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2013-11-19 11:10 PM
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So she's only done it once and you've only had her for three days? I think you should at least give her a bit more of a chance. If she continues to do it then I would get rid of her. Also, maybe try doing a little "round pen reasoning" with her and then make her come to you in the center of the round pen and be saddled without being tied. I always do that with my colts because I want them to learn to stand still when being saddled whether they are tied up or not.
But I totally agree with you about not wanting to chance hurting your family. I have a 4 month old and lately I've had the mind set that if a horse can't be sweet as pie 99% of the time they don't need to be on the place. There are way too many good ones to waste your time on the bad ones. But maybe just give her a bit more of a chance Good luck!
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pinx05
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2013-11-19 11:12 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2013-11-19 11:04 PM Oh I'm sorry I thought that I read that she was bred, I'm bad  

OP's message sounded like the mare could be bred "She's 15 and bred and built really nice." but she meant (I thought) that she was bred nice and built nice.

I have no advice. I rode a horse for my grandpa, stopped by my MIL's for a break and when I tied him up to her porch with the gelding my husband was riding he flipped out... nearly tore her porch down and ended up with all 4 feet in the air sitting on his butt with my gelding beside him holding him up. I told my grandpa and he says "Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you that he sits back if you tie him." hmmm... sit back was an understatement lol.

Good luck with her, whatever you decide.
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Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2013-11-19 11:17 PM
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Lunge the sap out of her before you saddle her. Then don't tie her solid.  A tired horse is a better horse.
Then go from there to evaluate her.  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-11-19 11:18 PM
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pinx05 - 2013-11-19 11:12 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2013-11-19 11:04 PM Oh I'm sorry I thought that I read that she was bred, I'm bad  
OP's message sounded like the mare could be bred "She's 15 and bred and built really nice." but she meant (I thought) that she was bred nice and built nice.



I have no advice. I rode a horse for my grandpa, stopped by my MIL's for a break and when I tied him up to her porch with the gelding my husband was riding he flipped out... nearly tore her porch down and ended up with all 4 feet in the air sitting on his butt with my gelding beside him holding him up. I told my grandpa and he says "Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you that he sits back if you tie him." hmmm... sit back was an understatement lol.



Good luck with her, whatever you decide.

I know I just read it wrong    
Oh gezzzz about the porch, I bet that was one heck of a mess 
 
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hashope11
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-11-19 11:18 PM
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I totally agree when it comes to second chances, hence trying it again without being tied. But to be honest after she nearly wiped out my husband and kids the buck kinda stopped there. I'm going to sleep on it and more than anything pray about it. I'll see tomorrow what I think. But plain and simple it really shook me up after that happened. Being a mom has changed my whole perspective on things. I used to love a hard challenge, but now there are clearly more important things in my life, that are worth much more to me.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-11-19 11:24 PM
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hashope11 - 2013-11-19 11:18 PM I totally agree when it comes to second chances, hence trying it again without being tied. But to be honest after she nearly wiped out my husband and kids the buck kinda stopped there. I'm going to sleep on it and more than anything pray about it. I'll see tomorrow what I think. But plain and simple it really shook me up after that happened. Being a mom has changed my whole perspective on things. I used to love a hard challenge, but now there are clearly more important things in my life, that are worth much more to me.

You do what feels right for you and the family, I'm kind of with you, when I became a mom my whole outlook on things change, I use to be a dare devil, took on all kinds of crazy things, but now I'm a grandma too and boy I have really change even more LOL 
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hashope11
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-11-19 11:30 PM
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100% agree with you there. Something about those precious smiles and big blue eyes just melts this momma's heart like butter!! Just don't let my little ones know they got their momma wrapped around their little fingers or I'll be in big trouble. They already know they have their daddy wrapped around their fingers and boy do they work it!!
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Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2013-11-19 11:31 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2013-11-19 11:24 PM
hashope11 - 2013-11-19 11:18 PM I totally agree when it comes to second chances, hence trying it again without being tied. But to be honest after she nearly wiped out my husband and kids the buck kinda stopped there. I'm going to sleep on it and more than anything pray about it. I'll see tomorrow what I think. But plain and simple it really shook me up after that happened. Being a mom has changed my whole perspective on things. I used to love a hard challenge, but now there are clearly more important things in my life, that are worth much more to me.
You do what feels right for you and the family, I'm kind of with you, when I became a mom my whole outlook on things change, I use to be a dare devil, took on all kinds of crazy things, but now I'm a grandma too and boy I have really change even more LOL 

Oh yeah, I had a horse that was a butt in the pasture. Not really mean but would run past you kicking, bucking, and farting. I just knew he was going to run over my kid one day. Until I sold him my son was not allowed around him, or even on the same side of the fence as him. It didn't matter if the horse was on the other end of the 10 acres. He would get a wild hair and my son wasn't quick enough to realize that he needed to get somewhere out of the way instead of stand there like a deer in the headlights. I don't know that the horse would have ever hurt him, but I didn't want to take that chance. I would have never forgiven myself.

I wouldn't blame you if you wanted to get rid of the horse because you were concerned about the safety of your kids. I'm sure there is someone else out there that is more comfortable dealing with her issue. Not saying she is a bad horse or you can't handle it, but no one can look down on you for trying to keep your kids safe. 
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WYOracer
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2013-11-20 12:25 AM
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Check out the link of this mare from previous, previous owner, said only bad habit is she does not like to be tied alone..HMMMMMM....might be what they meant, lol she looses her ever loving mind alone.

http://barrelhorseworld.com/horsedetailprint.asp?ID=170250
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illlookup
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2013-11-20 12:41 AM
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Comes to mind the joke about the trader showing the thin bodied and BLIND horse to the unsuspecting buyer. Buyer asked what his faults were & Trader said "Well, only thing bad about him is "he sure don't look too good." " Karma, right?
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Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2013-11-20 1:49 AM
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WYOracer - 2013-11-20 12:25 AM

Check out the link of this mare from previous, previous owner, said only bad habit is she does not like to be tied alone..HMMMMMM....might be what they meant, lol she looses her ever loving mind alone.

http://barrelhorseworld.com/horsedetailprint.asp?ID=170250

Can't get any plainer than this for sale ad ...

The price you pay is generally going to be the quality of horse you get ... looks like you have a "broodmare only" to sell .... before she hurts someone ... GOOD LUCK
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2013-11-20 3:41 AM
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I think it's possible that the mare didn't pull on them before. Horses that pull don't always pull back consistently and maybe they never set up the right scenario for her to pull. Things like new surroundings or saddling too soon can bring that out in one. 

You said that she was dancing around when you went to saddle. I'd try letting her sit for a while until she's bored and then saddling. I've seen some horses that if you go to saddle up right after tying they get a bit nervous and worked up. Let them sit for a few minutes and then go to saddle, you have a totally different horse. I think horses like that anticipate. 

The easiest thing would be to to use a tie ring or just not tie her hard and fast but it sounds like you don't want to run the risk and have your mind made up regardless. There's people that don't mind taking on a project like that if she's well bred and well built. Just be honest when you sell her.
 
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