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| cowgalsissy - 2013-11-20 9:14 AM
Time. Babies take up so much time and im sure turtles need a similar amount so she is doing right by both by finding them a good home.
Exactly..babies take up all your time. I kicked my inside cat outside 5 months after my daughter was born. He's isn't declawed so he is doing great. But there was no way I was cleaning a little box and cleaning up hair anymore! Animals come first to some people but my daughter is first to me. | |
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Location: West Tennessee | missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:55 AM
I'm not saying they don't pose a danger. But if that's the case then if I get pregnant I should get ride of my English mastiffs.....they might trip me.....and my horses.....they might kick me.....
my my point is there are other options. My tortoises are a part of my family and if I got pregnant and couldn't touch them, then in would expect my husband to help out, and he would. I wouldn't just dump them.
1. You're assuming the husband wanted to take care of them?
2. They really didn't toss them -- they found another good home. A responsible decision that must not have been easy.
3. Tossing would be dumping them in a field or stream to fend for themselves.
I know it sounds cruel, but my child (future child) would come first, period for me. That being said, I didn't get rid of my cat but you better bet that my MIL pressured me to do just that -- in our case, my husband simply asked the Dr & shut his mother up pretty quick. However, if our cat had showed dangerous behavior after our little girl was here, I would of rehomed her, hard as that would of been.
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | dme0324 - 2013-11-20 11:05 AM missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:55 AM I'm not saying they don't pose a danger. But if that's the case then if I get pregnant I should get ride of my English mastiffs.....they might trip me.....and my horses.....they might kick me.....
my my point is there are other options. My tortoises are a part of my family and if I got pregnant and couldn't touch them, then in would expect my husband to help out, and he would. I wouldn't just dump them. 1. You're assuming the husband wanted to take care of them? 2. They really didn't toss them -- they found another good home. A responsible decision that must not have been easy. 3. Tossing would be dumping them in a field or stream to fend for themselves. I know it sounds cruel, but my child (future child ) would come first, period for me. That being said, I didn't get rid of my cat but you better bet that my MIL pressured me to do just that -- in our case, my husband simply asked the Dr & shut his mother up pretty quick. However, if our cat had showed dangerous behavior after our little girl was here, I would of rehomed her, hard as that would of been.
I guess I'm just an a** then and I'm really sorry I posted at all........again...... | |
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| I have always wondered this same thing, but now I am pregnant, and faced with this issue myself, Im worrying. My horses wont be a problem, my cat wont be an issue, but I am really not sure if our Blue Heeler can be trusted with an infant.
Hubby and I have talked a lot about this in the past couple weeks. Radar is cool with kids 3 & up- that we know, but we're really not sure how he'll be with an infant rolling around on the floor. We are on the fence on weather we wait until baby is here and see how he is, or if its worth taking that risk. Hubby is picturing worse case scenario where the dog takes a chunk out of our kid's face, and says he could never forgive himself if that happened (Im really not sure I could either), but on the other hand we've had the dog almost 5 years, he's well trained, we just dont really trust him with cats, or other small animals as he is a heeler, and has very strong heeler instincts so really not sure where to go from here.
I love Radar, and he usually stays in the porch, but what if? That's the big question....
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Location: Minnesota | missroselee - 2013-11-20 10:17 AM dme0324 - 2013-11-20 11:05 AM missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:55 AM I'm not saying they don't pose a danger. But if that's the case then if I get pregnant I should get ride of my English mastiffs.....they might trip me.....and my horses.....they might kick me.....
my my point is there are other options. My tortoises are a part of my family and if I got pregnant and couldn't touch them, then in would expect my husband to help out, and he would. I wouldn't just dump them. 1. You're assuming the husband wanted to take care of them? 2. They really didn't toss them -- they found another good home. A responsible decision that must not have been easy. 3. Tossing would be dumping them in a field or stream to fend for themselves. I know it sounds cruel, but my child (future child ) would come first, period for me. That being said, I didn't get rid of my cat but you better bet that my MIL pressured me to do just that -- in our case, my husband simply asked the Dr & shut his mother up pretty quick. However, if our cat had showed dangerous behavior after our little girl was here, I would of rehomed her, hard as that would of been.
I wouldn't be sorry for your thread, I completely agree with you. Animals are not disposable. I do think there is a right time to find an animal a home but those times are few and far between. The animals I have will stay with me until their end, they won't leave. | |
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Location: Central Montana | Good question. I'll be an a$$ too then. I'll come right out and say I judge people for doing it and I think a lot less of them for doing it. If you are planning on having kids and not keeping your pets or worry that about your pets around your kids why even get the pet to begin with. | |
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| GoinJettin - 2013-11-20 9:28 AM Good question. I'll be an a$$ too then. I'll come right out and say I judge people for doing it and I think a lot less of them for doing it. If you are planning on having kids and not keeping your pets or worry that about your pets around your kids why even get the pet to begin with.
With my old girl who I had for 16 years I wouldn't have dreamed of getting rid of her. She was as mellow and lovable as you could ever hope a dog would be. Despite never having been around kids my neice and nephew could crawl all over her, feed her cheerios out of their hands (from the time they could figure out how to), pull on her ears- whatever- and we never worried for 2 seconds. She loved the attention, and soaked it up like the sweet old grandma she was.
With my current dog I just dont have that same level of trust with him despite doing everything exactly the same. He has been well socialized and has had the same rules from day one... as I mentioned before- he *might* be ok with our newborn... but what if he's not? Do I bet my kid's health on it? He KNOWS not to be snappy or pushy when we're around, but what if baby is left unattended for 2 seconds while I go to my room to put a sweater on? I really dont know... I really want to keep him, but this whole ordeal has us pretty stressed over what to do. Do I move the dog outside after having been an inside dog his whole life? Is it more fair to drasically change his life at our place, than find him a new home where he will be equally as loved? These are all questions Im asking myself... | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I had a nasty case of salmonella when I was pregnant with my son from handling a smoked shin bone to give to my dog when we were having a weenie roast, and didn't think to wash my hands. My dog was even sicker than I was.
We did re-home our Anatolian when our son was almost 2. She had started growling at him if he entered the room with her--she was corrected for this, and they were always supervised, so at first we didn't think about finding her a new home and fully intended to work through it. Until she almost killed my older German shepherd one day with me standing right beside them. I called my husband in tears and said I'm done, she has got to leave. We kept her in the yard for the 6 weeks it took to find her a new place through the breed rescue, and then flew her to GA ourselves. I hate that we had to do that, but my child had to come first, not to mention my love for and responsibility to my other dog, and I really feel like she kind of made her own bed there. We found out during the placement process that her breeder was known to produce unstable dogs, and they had rehomed and euthanized quite a few that came from him. | |
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| missroselee - 2013-11-20 10:17 AM
dme0324 - 2013-11-20 11:05 AM missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:55 AM I'm not saying they don't pose a danger. But if that's the case then if I get pregnant I should get ride of my English mastiffs.....they might trip me.....and my horses.....they might kick me.....
my my point is there are other options. My tortoises are a part of my family and if I got pregnant and couldn't touch them, then in would expect my husband to help out, and he would. I wouldn't just dump them. 1. You're assuming the husband wanted to take care of them? 2. They really didn't toss them -- they found another good home. A responsible decision that must not have been easy. 3. Tossing would be dumping them in a field or stream to fend for themselves. I know it sounds cruel, but my child (future child ) would come first, period for me. That being said, I didn't get rid of my cat but you better bet that my MIL pressured me to do just that -- in our case, my husband simply asked the Dr & shut his mother up pretty quick. However, if our cat had showed dangerous behavior after our little girl was here, I would of rehomed her, hard as that would of been.
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Location: Great NW | missroselee - 2013-11-20 8:17 AM dme0324 - 2013-11-20 11:05 AM missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:55 AM I'm not saying they don't pose a danger. But if that's the case then if I get pregnant I should get ride of my English mastiffs.....they might trip me.....and my horses.....they might kick me.....
my my point is there are other options. My tortoises are a part of my family and if I got pregnant and couldn't touch them, then in would expect my husband to help out, and he would. I wouldn't just dump them. 1. You're assuming the husband wanted to take care of them? 2. They really didn't toss them -- they found another good home. A responsible decision that must not have been easy. 3. Tossing would be dumping them in a field or stream to fend for themselves. I know it sounds cruel, but my child (future child ) would come first, period for me. That being said, I didn't get rid of my cat but you better bet that my MIL pressured me to do just that -- in our case, my husband simply asked the Dr & shut his mother up pretty quick. However, if our cat had showed dangerous behavior after our little girl was here, I would of rehomed her, hard as that would of been.
Missroselee ~ I am with you. I have two kids and took care of 8 horses, 3 dogs and a few cats and helped to take care of the cows thru both pregnancy's. I also cooked dinner with meat every night. so does that make me a bad person. NO - I made sure to wash counters, and hands all the time. Too much work - no - I love them they are part of my family and I would never dream of pushing them aside. afterall - they make plastic gloves, masks and Sanitizers don't they? | |
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Location: Texas | I try not to judge people who do this, but it's hard. I don't keep animals that are dangerous and that would be the only reason I would not keep one.
However, with the turtles, I totally understand. With pregnant women and little kids, turtles can pack around Salmonella and that IS a concern. To most adults, this isn't a problem. But kids love to touch stuff and immediately shove fingers in their mouths. Then again, we don't have any inside pets because my husband and kiddo are enough to clean up after.
Unless behavioral issues arise in an animal after a baby is born, I don't think it's responsible to rehome animals. I think it really comes down to the people feel overwhelmed and getting rid of a pet can eliminate some stress. But if the pet is pooping/peeing places it shouldn't or becoming aggressive, or something else, I wouldn't hesitate to rehome it.
At the end of the day, you can rehome a pet but you can't rehome a kid. You can also stick an animal in the back yard and no one says anything. Do that with a kid and you could get turned in for child abuse.
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | You know there is a huge difference between reponsibly re-homing a pet and just throwing them away. | |
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Location: MI | I am pregnant with our 4th, and we haven't gotten rid of any because of the pregnancies or kids.
BUT, I will not judge anyone who does, because they know their situation, their tolerances, and their environment much better than I, an outsider, does. And in those cases, hopefully they find an awesome home and rehome the animal responsibly.
When we had our first, I was worried about our Catahoula, Banks with her. Adalynn grew up with Banks and Rocky, an Aussie, and my dad still thinks it's why she was one of the most laid back babies ever.  Wish that stuck around! But anyway, Banks was awesome with her until she was crawling. Even then, he was ok and watched carefully, but one day she bit him on the nose and he nipped back at her, causing an ER visit with glue to a small skin tear on her forehead. I in NO WAY blame him, my husband and I were right there and he was just telling her no. But, since then he's growled at the kids some and it would obviously be stupid to put him or the kids in the same position.
So we have an very large outdoor run that comes inside, and Banks and Rocky are only allowed in a part of our house, generally separated from the kids. We love Banks and Rocky, Trav still takes them to work with him and they get out and attention, but they aren't allowed around the kids too often - and Banks likes it better that way.
So anyway, would Banks have a better life with someone else? I don't know, but we do love him a ton, just don't trust him fully around the kids. And he has a good life, he LOVES being outside, and I think he's happy. I'm not a dog, nor an animal communicator, but I am his momma and that's how it's going to stay. My point, we worked around it. It really isn't Banks fault that he doesn't love and dote on the kids at all. It was our decision to have kids, and animals, and I do think that that the kids benefit from the animals, even in this situation. | |
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Location: Texas | SC Wrangler - 2013-11-20 10:58 AM
You know there is a huge difference between reponsibly re-homing a pet and just throwing them away.
Good point. Dumping animals is not acceptable.
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| Tys-ol-lady - 2013-11-20 9:20 AM
I have always wondered this same thing, but now I am pregnant, and faced with this issue myself, Im worrying. My horses wont be a problem, my cat wont be an issue, but I am really not sure if our Blue Heeler can be trusted with an infant.
Hubby and I have talked a lot about this in the past couple weeks. Radar is cool with kids 3 & up- that we know, but we're really not sure how he'll be with an infant rolling around on the floor. We are on the fence on weather we wait until baby is here and see how he is, or if its worth taking that risk. Hubby is picturing worse case scenario where the dog takes a chunk out of our kid's face, and says he could never forgive himself if that happened (Im really not sure I could either), but on the other hand we've had the dog almost 5 years, he's well trained, we just dont really trust him with cats, or other small animals as he is a heeler, and has very strong heeler instincts so really not sure where to go from here.
I love Radar, and he usually stays in the porch, but what if? That's the big question....
I would wait until you have the baby to make up your mind!! Heelers are very loyal and he may suprise you with the baby! Our heeler is almost 10 and our son is 5, and they are rarely without each other. now. He was awesome with him as a baby. If they have any obedience or manners I can't foresee it being an issue. At least it wasn't for us. Our heeler will kill any cat, mouse, gopher, etc in sight. But he super gentle and understanding of our son. | |
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| I will admit to reforming a dog when we had our first. This dog could not be taken off leash, if you did she was gone for days, was a hound cross and missed to her nose. She needed ran miles and miles every day. My husband could not do it he was to busy with The farm and a full time job and what little time head he wanted to spend with me or the baby when she came. The dog spent most of her day tied up for in an out door kennel, she was miserable and it broke my heart. I gave her to a marathon runner for a trading buddy and that dog has never been happier. I cried when she left but I get a Christmas card from her every year. It was hard for me to let her go and say I was not enfough but the best thing For honey. Now I pick our pets to better suit us.. every thing is forever now, it's a big change to have a baby and some pets truly deserve better. | |
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| Tys-ol-lady - 2013-11-20 8:20 AM
I have always wondered this same thing, but now I am pregnant, and faced with this issue myself, Im worrying. My horses wont be a problem, my cat wont be an issue, but I am really not sure if our Blue Heeler can be trusted with an infant.
Hubby and I have talked a lot about this in the past couple weeks. Radar is cool with kids 3 & up- that we know, but we're really not sure how he'll be with an infant rolling around on the floor. We are on the fence on weather we wait until baby is here and see how he is, or if its worth taking that risk. Hubby is picturing worse case scenario where the dog takes a chunk out of our kid's face, and says he could never forgive himself if that happened (Im really not sure I could either), but on the other hand we've had the dog almost 5 years, he's well trained, we just dont really trust him with cats, or other small animals as he is a heeler, and has very strong heeler instincts so really not sure where to go from here.
I love Radar, and he usually stays in the porch, but what if? That's the big question....
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Location: BFE, Idaho | When I had my daughter we had an older I will not say what kind cross, and a purebred border collie. The first about 8 the second about 9 years old. And an outside tough as nails tom cat. Plus horses/cows/pigs and a goat.
All stayed. We did end up putting the collie down when she started walking, he attacked her and not herding instinct if the other dog had not taken him down I do not know what would have happened. We did not rehome him it was best to put him to sleep at that age he was set and after that could never be trusted.
The cross we were scared of acted like I had her for him, he took her over, every picture inside and out until we lost him to a burglery when she was 4 has him in it. She learned to walk hanging on his collar, she learned the words, No and Stay through him, and he guarded her every move 24/7.
And our old scraggly tom cat even let himself wear hats, and makeup as he lay in the sun and never moved a muscle.
I would never have gotten rid of them before hand though ever.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | aggiejudger - 2013-11-20 10:03 AM SC Wrangler - 2013-11-20 10:58 AM You know there is a huge difference between reponsibly re-homing a pet and just throwing them away. Good point. Dumping animals is not acceptable.
This is a good statement. If they are found loving homes that are in the best interest of the pet (like your new torties) then I don't have a problem with it.
When we moved to TX, we drug along a horse, a dog and 2 cats. People thought we were nuts, why didn't we just get new cats when we got there? Well, I love these cats. I kept them with the birth of my first son, one kitty died, but have the female with the birth of my 2nd son. We made some different arrangements so they weren't sleeping with the babies and my old aggressive heeler was kept outside in the yard or in a kennel at night so my son wouldn't get bit. He passed away before the 2nd baby was born.
I have a red border collie that I feel no attachment to, but we got him and he will stay until he dies. He's a good dog and I like him, but if he died (pain free) tomorrow, it would be a relief. He chases livestock so must be chained when he isn't out roaming with us and feeding cows. | |
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Location: Georgia | I think you are absolutely right, Missroselee. I think a lot of the problem with people rehoming pets/animals when they become pregnant is because the mother doesn't have someone responsible enough to help out (ie...spouse, parent, relative, what have you). I would much rehome an animal if I couldn't take care of it to the best of my ability rather than to let it suffer or not get the appropriate amount of attention and affection it needs. I love my animals and wouldn't send them anywhere unless they posed an issue with my child. | |
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