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Location: Kentucky | As far as trucks.... we will probably never own a gas truck to do any hauling with. It's one of those things where when you go diesel, you don't go back. They are more expensive to purchase, fuel, and parts/labor. But IMO, they are worth it. |
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| Each truck serves its purpose. You just have to compare your needs to the purpose of the truck.
My husband and I started out with gas trucks. Our first truck my husband actually had when I started dating him. It was a 1996 F-250 gas with 340,000 miles on it! It kicked the bucket the transmission went before the engine (it was original engine, transmission had been replaced at some point prior)...but my husband paid $2,500 for it-couldn't beat it!
When that happened we traded it in for a 2007 GMC 3/4 ton gas truck. We could not afford the upkeep or payment of a diesel at the time-and didn't need more truck as we just had a dressing room three horse trailer.
Last year we went all out-traded for a 2008 1 ton Dodge and then six months after bought a living quarters trailer.
The diesel is more upkeep when we haul it only gets 10 mpg, BUT we could not have pulled our current trailer with our previous truck. That truck got about 8 or 9 when we hauled.
When we are not hauling we get about 18 mpg.
I love the diesel for what we need it for-hauling power.
If you don't need it, then save your money and get a gas truck. They serve their purpose too. 454's are good strong engines. If you already have a diesel available as needed, why have two to keep up with?
That is just my opinion-you will figure out what works best for you. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Fairweather - 2013-11-27 2:42 AM
We pull with a gas engine - 3/4 ton heavy duty dually. We have less than $10k in it.
During show season we'll haul 2-3x a month usually no more than 2 hours away. I'll haul 3-4 in a 16' aluminum stock trailer. I also haul out a few times a month to the farrier and to practice.
The furtherst we've pulled was to Ft. Smith (10 hours) and we pulled a 1980's Steel living quarters with 4 big horses. It made the trip to Jackson this past weekend as well pulling that same trailer and load -- it averages around 7 miles per gallon pulling that trailer.
The reason we bought a gas engine is that it's a lot cheaper to work on. Unless you buy new, there's going to be things that will need to be worked on here and there and when you start working on diesals it gets very expensive very quick. Plus, it's easier for most people to work on a gas engine anyhow.
I honestly have never seen a 3/4 ton dually....I didnt know they made them..interestingM |
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| mruggles - 2013-11-26 9:59 AM Fairweather - 2013-11-27 2:42 AM We pull with a gas engine - 3/4 ton heavy duty dually. We have less than $10k in it.
During show season we'll haul 2-3x a month usually no more than 2 hours away. I'll haul 3-4 in a 16' aluminum stock trailer. I also haul out a few times a month to the farrier and to practice.
The furtherst we've pulled was to Ft. Smith (10 hours) and we pulled a 1980's Steel living quarters with 4 big horses. It made the trip to Jackson this past weekend as well pulling that same trailer and load -- it averages around 7 miles per gallon pulling that trailer.
The reason we bought a gas engine is that it's a lot cheaper to work on. Unless you buy new, there's going to be things that will need to be worked on here and there and when you start working on diesals it gets very expensive very quick. Plus, it's easier for most people to work on a gas engine anyhow.
I honestly have never seen a 3/4 ton dually....I didnt know they made them..interestingM
I don't know that they are made that way by the big 3 (maybe, I don't know).
There are some 3/4 tons that have been modified though. We had one a LOOONNNG time ago.
Also, I saw a newer Ford F150 modified to be a dually. I'm serious.
To answer the OP's question...
If you are looking to do a ton of hauling with a larger trailer, a diesel will probably be best.
If you are only hauling sparingly with a BP or small GN, and need the truck to be your daily driver, gas might be better.
Honestly, for me, the upkeep for a diesel would simply be too much. I know that for a lot of people it's worth it, but it wouldn't be to me.
Edited by Just Plain Lucky 2013-11-26 9:18 AM
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| If you are used to driving a diesel you will not be happy at all with a Gas. We went to a gas a few years ago thinking it would save money. BIG MISTAKE! The gas truck was getting about $8-10 per gallon whereas our diesel gets $14-17 per gallon pulling a trailer. Plus we had no pulling power at all. Felt like you had the pedal mashed to the floor just to maintain 65 on the highway. Both trucks needed the same amount of maintence but the diesel will last longer and hold it's value because the motor will last longer.
Needless to say we didnt keep the gas truck long and went right back to a Diesel and have not ever thought twice about it! JMO! |
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| mbellos11 - 2013-11-27 5:43 AM I have a 2500 HD silverado GAS and I absolutely hate it. I spend about $100 or more a week on gas. Thank god I have a job I do very well in or else idk how I would get by!! I am currently looking for a diesel. All my best friends have diesels and they are 150% worth it!!!
thats what my truck is but i love it |
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2013-11-27 7:10 AM mruggles - 2013-11-26 9:59 AM Fairweather - 2013-11-27 2:42 AM We pull with a gas engine - 3/4 ton heavy duty dually. We have less than $10k in it.
During show season we'll haul 2-3x a month usually no more than 2 hours away. I'll haul 3-4 in a 16' aluminum stock trailer. I also haul out a few times a month to the farrier and to practice.
The furtherst we've pulled was to Ft. Smith (10 hours) and we pulled a 1980's Steel living quarters with 4 big horses. It made the trip to Jackson this past weekend as well pulling that same trailer and load -- it averages around 7 miles per gallon pulling that trailer.
The reason we bought a gas engine is that it's a lot cheaper to work on. Unless you buy new, there's going to be things that will need to be worked on here and there and when you start working on diesals it gets very expensive very quick. Plus, it's easier for most people to work on a gas engine anyhow.
I honestly have never seen a 3/4 ton dually....I didnt know they made them..interestingM
There are some 3/4 tons that have been modified though. We had one a LOOONNNG time ago.
Also, I saw a newer Ford F150 modified to be a dually. I'm serious.
To answer the OP's question...
If you are looking to do a ton of hauling with a larger trailer, a diesel will probably be best.
If you are only hauling sparingly with a BP or small GN, and need the truck to be your daily driver, gas might be better.
Honestly, for me, the upkeep for a diesel would simply be too much. I know that for a lot of people it's worth it, but it wouldn't be to me.
my dad has a 3/4 ton diesel gmc and i absolutly love it..... lol....
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Location: Northern CA | Thank you guys. I kind of had the feeling we would have to stick with a diesel, just looking to not have to take out a mortgage on a dang truck! Can't believe the price of them, even the used ones!
Edited by halter_ego 2013-11-26 3:15 PM
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| I don't know is what the difference between gas verses diesel upkeep.
My diesel truck it costs about 120 to change the oil, the other halfs gas truck costs about 100 to change the oil, pricing is not much different on fuel filters, transmission, did fluid, etc. maybe 20-30 dollars top difference.
For wheel bearings, tie rod ends, u joints all similar prices.
Diesels are made to last forever if you maintain the, right, and I do know when things start going wrong it can get expensive, once you fix it you will get lots of miles out of it.
Resale value is very different, I know there are specific older dodge diesels especially the 12 valve people are paying 10-20k for
My dodge truck is a 2006 I bought it used in 2009 and the blue book price is still more then I paid. If I choose to sell my truck I could make money on it.
The other halfs 2006 gas truck is worth nothing, he might be able to get 4 k for it, so he might as well drive it till it dies.
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Location: Kentucky | I don't know of anyone that would pay 10-20k for a 12v Cummins. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Murphy - 2013-11-26 2:38 PM I don't know of anyone that would pay 10-20k for a 12v Cummins.
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Location: Kentucky | Nevertooold - 2013-11-26 3:46 PM Murphy - 2013-11-26 2:38 PM I don't know of anyone that would pay 10-20k for a 12v Cummins. Dodge Hater..
LOL - no, not at all. I have some close friends that are big Dodge people. In fact, we are helping them with parts in building a pulling truck. I know from them that paying 10k-20k for a 12v is too much. One of them just bought a super nice 12v with low miles for $8500 and he said he even said he paid too much for it. |
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Location: southeast Texas | cheryl makofka - 2013-11-26 2:35 PM I don't know is what the difference between gas verses diesel upkeep. My diesel truck it costs about 120 to change the oil, the other halfs gas truck costs about 100 to change the oil, pricing is not much different on fuel filters, transmission, did fluid, etc. maybe 20-30 dollars top difference. For wheel bearings, tie rod ends, u joints all similar prices. Diesels are made to last forever if you maintain the, right, and I do know when things start going wrong it can get expensive, once you fix it you will get lots of miles out of it. Resale value is very different, I know there are specific older dodge diesels especially the 12 valve people are paying 10-20k for My dodge truck is a 2006 I bought it used in 2009 and the blue book price is still more then I paid. If I choose to sell my truck I could make money on it. The other halfs 2006 gas truck is worth nothing, he might be able to get 4 k for it, so he might as well drive it till it dies.
$120 to change oil. .??? Golly where is that? Doesnt cost that much down here. My guy uses rotella. |
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Location: College Station, TX | I have had both and was not happy pulling with the gas. (All were Chevy/gmc) I got around 9 or 10 pulling.
Got an 04 Chevy diesel and got about 22 highway, and 13 pulling. Injectors blew out at 150k so I got rid of it.
Now have an 09 GMC diesel... All I can say is DO NOT GET A GMC. I'm not happy with how it pulls, sometimes I can get 11 pulling, but usually 8 is something to be happy about and I get about 16 on the highway not pulling. I have owned it 10 months, yesterday made trip 10 to the shop (I need a frequent buyer card with the dealership service department and the tow truck company!) and it has to go back again tomorrow. It is by far the worst vehicle I have ever owned, and I would drive a gas truck before I got another duramax. I have heard the new ones are better, but with my experience with this one I wouldn't recommend them to anyone, and am too scared to buy another. It's been an awful experience.
That said, I'm currently in the market for a ford or a dodge! |
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Location: Land Of Oz | After pulling with a diesel, I will never go back to gas if I can help it. I pull a 3 horse steel GN trailer w/an '06 Chevy 3/4 ton and I can hardly tell it's back there. |
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Location: Kansas | I have a 2500HD, (gas) I love it but I hate it.....I should of bought the duramax when I had the chance
Pulling power, I do love my truck. I hauled a friends 4 horse slant loaded full with horses and my truck didn't once struggle getting up to speed. It's gritty, and tough....Just wish I got better gas mileage |
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Location: North Dakota | cheryl makofka - 2013-11-26 2:35 PM I don't know is what the difference between gas verses diesel upkeep. My diesel truck it costs about 120 to change the oil, the other halfs gas truck costs about 100 to change the oil, pricing is not much different on fuel filters, transmission, did fluid, etc. maybe 20-30 dollars top difference. For wheel bearings, tie rod ends, u joints all similar prices. Diesels are made to last forever if you maintain the, right, and I do know when things start going wrong it can get expensive, once you fix it you will get lots of miles out of it. Resale value is very different, I know there are specific older dodge diesels especially the 12 valve people are paying 10-20k for My dodge truck is a 2006 I bought it used in 2009 and the blue book price is still more then I paid. If I choose to sell my truck I could make money on it. The other halfs 2006 gas truck is worth nothing, he might be able to get 4 k for it, so he might as well drive it till it dies.
Me either.  We change our own oil so we never need to worry about the cost of that but for other mechanical issues they all cost money whether a gas or diesel. The only big difference would be if the engine went out but that doesn't happen all too often. So it's not like it is your "normal upkeep." I would say for your money a diesel would be the best way to go because they hold their value and I feel you would be happier pulling. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | I went from diesel to gas (not by choice). I had a Ford 6.O and when we took the POS back to trade it the only thing in our price range that could do what we wanted was the Chevy with the 8.1. Now I love my Chevy and it can pull a house down but the MPG is horrible. Eventually we will prob go back to diesel. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | roxieannie - 2013-11-27 1:57 PM
cheryl makofka - 2013-11-26 2:35 PM I don't know is what the difference between gas verses diesel upkeep. My diesel truck it costs about 120 to change the oil, the other halfs gas truck costs about 100 to change the oil, pricing is not much different on fuel filters, transmission, did fluid, etc. maybe 20-30 dollars top difference. For wheel bearings, tie rod ends, u joints all similar prices. Diesels are made to last forever if you maintain the, right, and I do know when things start going wrong it can get expensive, once you fix it you will get lots of miles out of it. Resale value is very different, I know there are specific older dodge diesels especially the 12 valve people are paying 10-20k for My dodge truck is a 2006 I bought it used in 2009 and the blue book price is still more then I paid. If I choose to sell my truck I could make money on it. The other halfs 2006 gas truck is worth nothing, he might be able to get 4 k for it, so he might as well drive it till it dies.
$120 to change oil. .??? Golly where is that? Doesnt cost that much down here. My guy uses rotella.
That is what it costs up here to get oil changed on a diesel..some places are 150 and I used to be able to change the oilon my ford but the dodge I cant as you need a certain wrench or some such nonsenseM |
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| Long story about our truck...
BUT we were given an extended warranty to an extra 100,000 miles that covers anything major other than maintanence on the truck.
BECAUSE of this we have to have the truck maintained through the dealership...IE the warranty company requires this-so if anything were to break as long as we have GOOD record of it (if we did the oil change ourselves it would be difficult to have good records of that) so we spend $120 on our oil changes.
This is what makes it more expensive. Luckily-my husband works for Cummins Filtration. He gets all the filters for $1.00 a box!!! We bring the filters into the dealership and it cuts costs a bit for us. |
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