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        Location: ND | rodeomom3 - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... This, at least in Texas. Our 45k horse with my daughter would win lD locally with 200 + entries and be just out of the 1D money at big shows. We competed against a jam up cutting bred horse in high school rodeo that was purchased for $2500- he won everything. He sold last year for 50K (which was a steal but sellers wanted him to go to a great home), runs 17.0s on a standard and has qualified for The American. Talent comes in all price ranges-if you can find it and develop it.
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    Location: Deep South | HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM
1d locally 2d big shows.....
I agree with this. By big shows I mean HUGE shows, and maybe top of the 2D, maybe 1D but out of the money.
Those that think it's crazy, you have to think there's horses selling for $100k, $150k, $200k, how would they justify those prices if you could buy a horse for $60k and win the 1D all the time and go to the NFR? |
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   Location: Texas | A horse that could win the BBR finals, D&D, the biggest open shows out there... Not seasoned to rodeos yet, not the easiest horse to ride but if you can ride the horse you can win. With that kind of money the best thing to do would be take 2 30k horses that have never been to rodeos before, season them and they might just make NFR horses, if not resell and try again.
A solid backup NFR caliber horse, not a stingray, or latte or duke. The horse that can place but will probably never layout an arena record rodeo run. More solid and probably over the age of 12. Needs hocks injected. Could get you to the NFR if you hauled to every rodeo and kept him/her sound all year.
Either way you will get a GOOD horse for 60k. The chances that it is your once in a lifetime horse or a horse that everyone remembers as the best are slim. |
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   Location: Texas | JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!  If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money.
Too bad thats not reality. |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2013-12-05 9:54 AM
HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM
1d locally 2d big shows.....
I agree with this. By big shows I mean HUGE shows, and maybe top of the 2D, maybe 1D but out of the money.
Those that think it's crazy, you have to think there's horses selling for $100k, $150k, $200k, how would they justify those prices if you could buy a horse for $60k and win the 1D all the time and go to the NFR?
They can't justify them now! It's called to much money and not enough brains! |
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| outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM
JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!  If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money.
Too bad thats not reality.
You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! |
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    Location: Midwest | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 9:52 AM rodeomom3 - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... This, at least in Texas. Our 45k horse with my daughter would win lD locally with 200 + entries and be just out of the 1D money at big shows. We competed against a jam up cutting bred horse in high school rodeo that was purchased for $2500- he won everything. He sold last year for 50K (which was a steal but sellers wanted him to go to a great home), runs 17.0s on a standard and has qualified for The American. Talent comes in all price ranges-if you can find it and develop it. ^^this
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        Location: ND | JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!  If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. Too bad thats not reality. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse!
maybe not but someone making a living at this would....i would spend spend half a million on a tractor and pencil that out.....for some people spending 60-200k on a horse makes sense in their business.....like paying several million for a stallion.....it's all about income generation....well....not all......for some it is no different than buying new boobs, wrinkle cream and a fancy house/barn/arena....but hey....if i had that kind of money to play with, i would.... |
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| dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM
JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!  If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. Too bad thats not reality. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse!
maybe not but someone making a living at this would....i would spend spend half a million on a tractor and pencil that out.....for some people spending 60-200k on a horse makes sense in their business.....like paying several million for a stallion.....it's all about income generation....well....not all......for some it is no different than buying new boobs, wrinkle cream and a fancy house/barn/arena....but hey....if i had that kind of money to play with, i would....
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        Location: ND | JRC - 2013-12-05 10:04 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!  If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. Too bad thats not reality. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! maybe not but someone making a living at this would....i would spend spend half a million on a tractor and pencil that out.....for some people spending 60-200k on a horse makes sense in their business.....like paying several million for a stallion.....it's all about income generation....well....not all......for some it is no different than buying new boobs, wrinkle cream and a fancy house/barn/arena....but hey....if i had that kind of money to play with, i would.... A Stallion is different!
not at all...think about it for a second.....a stallion owner is generating their income from breeding that horse.......which is no different than a professional, using their horse to win money for their income.....and just like a stallions offspring bring back in incentive money, increased breedings and value, a professional competitors success on a horse bring in sponsorship money, noteriety which leads to increased training and riding opportunities, etc........
you are looking with way to narrow a vision... |
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| dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:10 AM
JRC - 2013-12-05 10:04 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!  If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. Too bad thats not reality. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! maybe not but someone making a living at this would....i would spend spend half a million on a tractor and pencil that out.....for some people spending 60-200k on a horse makes sense in their business.....like paying several million for a stallion.....it's all about income generation....well....not all......for some it is no different than buying new boobs, wrinkle cream and a fancy house/barn/arena....but hey....if i had that kind of money to play with, i would.... A Stallion is different!
not at all...think about it for a second.....a stallion owner is generating their income from breeding that horse.......which is no different than a professional, using their horse to win money for their income.....and just like a stallions offspring bring back in incentive money, increased breedings and value, a professional competitors success on a horse bring in sponsorship money, noteriety which leads to increased training and riding opportunities, etc........
you are looking with way to narrow a vision...
ok, ok but I wouldn't be able to trust anyone enough to hand over 60 grand on the hopes to make it into the 2d, but this is coming from a poor white girl. You may be right if I was Darcy LaPier and married rich guys I might think differently! I think I would still take my chances with a few outstanding prospects and use that money towards a top notch trainer. |
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        Location: ND | JRC - 2013-12-05 10:14 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:10 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 10:04 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!  If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. Too bad thats not reality. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! maybe not but someone making a living at this would....i would spend spend half a million on a tractor and pencil that out.....for some people spending 60-200k on a horse makes sense in their business.....like paying several million for a stallion.....it's all about income generation....well....not all......for some it is no different than buying new boobs, wrinkle cream and a fancy house/barn/arena....but hey....if i had that kind of money to play with, i would.... A Stallion is different! not at all...think about it for a second.....a stallion owner is generating their income from breeding that horse.......which is no different than a professional, using their horse to win money for their income.....and just like a stallions offspring bring back in incentive money, increased breedings and value, a professional competitors success on a horse bring in sponsorship money, noteriety which leads to increased training and riding opportunities, etc........
you are looking with way to narrow a vision... ok, ok but I wouldn't be able to trust anyone enough to hand over 60 grand on the hopes to make it into the 2d, but this is coming from a poor white girl. You may be right if I was Darcy LaPier and married rich guys I might think differently! I think I would still take my chances with a few outstanding prospects and use that money towards a top notch trainer.
well....that logic i tend to agree with....spending that kind of money you definitely need to know and trust the right connections... |
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           Location: Florida.. | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 11:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!  If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. Too bad thats not reality. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! maybe not but someone making a living at this would....i would spend spend half a million on a tractor and pencil that out.....for some people spending 60-200k on a horse makes sense in their business.....like paying several million for a stallion.....it's all about income generation....well....not all......for some it is no different than buying new boobs, wrinkle cream and a fancy house/barn/arena....but hey....if i had that kind of money to play with, i would....
agree..
in my world it would get you a pretty nice lil horse going 1st -2nd level at top bigger shows..but its up to you to be successful.. it would have buttons and some quirks but know and can handle lower level and be a potential upper level.
if its a noname possibly local shows maybe a higher level one. depends where you look, where its been promoted etc..who its with training etc.. |
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      Location: Northern CA | One that can clean his own stall, saddle himself, and survive on dirt!  No really though, I know the "good" horses are probably worht it, but I cannot imagine spending even half this amount on a horse. |
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if I paid that for a horse …. to be served with divorce papers! |
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           Location: California | azsun - 2013-12-05 9:28 AM what would i expect …. if I paid that for a horse …. to be served with divorce papers!
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     Location: a secret | Remember years ago when there were no divisional races, horses values were quite different. The 4d and 5 d horse is valuable to someone, not all barrel racers want to or can ride a 1d horse. So with that said, I haven seen starter good kids horses in the 4d and they command good mone!y! so, if you want to get to the 1d the cost naturally increases. As you all are well aware when the reins change hands things happen, you may be able to ride or you may not. I think Lance Graves said it perfectly people will win and losers and lose on winners. I belive it is not only the cost that should come into play its the click factor........... If you are talented enough to train your own your lucky some of us are not. JMO>>>> |
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     Location: North Dakota | I believe Molly Powell had a horse of hers that she ran at the NFR listed on here around that $60k range a couple years ago. |
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