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Location: That part of Texas | I had one with a shoulder injury similar to this -- he impaled himself on a tree branch as best as I could figure -- and I used Wonder Dust/Vetricyn on the wound. It healed completely and I was pretty impressed by it since it happened in the wintertime and washing wasn't an option with him either. My vet also had him on antibiotics -- shot plus a feed through if I remember right -- so that helped. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Maxi Pads won't stick....instead of the cotton. He's going to bite at it, so I'd possibly try a cut out sweat shirt over his head and maybe half cut sleeves polo wrapped down his legs.....until you get the blanket. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | those darn firewater finale babies.........mine did a number on her self when she was less than a week old........close to 100 stitches to put her back together..........and of course they all pulled out.....and i tried a lot of stuff on her and when i started to use underwoods is when it started to heal........i love that stuff and keep it stocked at home..............
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| Not sure what resources you have available...
BUT....
We have a hyperbaric chamber that is $200.00 a treatment...
We put a horse through three treatments....
That will heal wounds VERY fast. Pretty cool to see and was worth the $600.00 for us. |
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Location: BETWEEN HOT FLASHES AND GERITOL | I had a filly do this at 6 months old, around this time. I would hydro it and put the sulfer meds on it and then a blanket so she couldn't rub it or touch it. Hope this helps ya! |
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Location: north dakota | I've had to dr a few wounds in this below zero wheather. What I did was fill an ice cream bucket with warm water and Hibiclens (chlorhexidine) but you can use iodine or antibacterial soap. I put 4x4 in the bucket (you can use paper towels or baby wipes) and a 60 cc syringe for irrigating. I syringe the water and get on the wound 5 -10 times and then wipe off the rest of the drainage with 4x4s and apply a topical wound cream. My vets give me silvadene so thats what i used. I had a weanling this fall I did it with with a hand size chunk of missing hide on his side. .
The biggest thing is getting all the drainage and dried crud off of the wound and keeping wound from getting infected. The weanling with the side wound I didn't bandage. It healed up pretty fast and his hair all grew back.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Thank you for all the ideas. I have Veterycin (sp?) on hand so am using it for now and have Underwoods on order. I'm a Shreiners fan myself, but I just think this is too big and open for something that I know can sting.
I put the shoulder guards on again tonight and tied them under his belly (they are horse sized) I don't think he can wiggle out of them this time. I doubled them up to give some warmth and keep the straw from sticking to him. He's such a good kid.
As for what happened. We have no idea. He was in the corral on the opposite side of the gate where he should have been. I think they got to running and playing and he was pushed over the gate. It is 5 ft maybe a tad under. It is round panel type gate so no sharp edges and not a dent anywhere (and there should be from a horse landing on it). Both corrals are wooden planks and no T posts. There were 2 Rambouillet rams in the pen he was found in. They are normally typical sheep and scared to death of horses so I wonder if they didn't accidentally snag him with a horn if they got panicked and got to running around in there. They aren't "hooky" like a bull, more of a pund you into the ground type thing. But the height is just right -his chest/their horns. Here is what they look like for the non sheep peeps.
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Location: VA | Vetericyn - the veterinary strength spray gel. Miracle in a bottle :) |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | Are you friends with Chelsea (Tanner) Kroes on facebook? If not, Her big gelding Cash got torn open this summer. he looked like he had a bite taken out by a shark. he looks AMAZING now. Maybe contact her and ask what all she treated Cash with.
I've never personally used Vetericyn. I've had a lot of good results with Eclipse Wound Wash but I've never treated anything this major with Eclipse. I'm sure if you contact them, they'd give you thei advice on treatment. |
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Location: CA | wyoming barrel racer - 2013-12-09 3:21 PM
Thank you for all the ideas. I have Veterycin (sp?) on hand so am using it for now and have Underwoods on order. I'm a Shreiners fan myself, but I just think this is too big and open for something that I know can sting.
I put the shoulder guards on again tonight and tied them under his belly (they are horse sized) I don't think he can wiggle out of them this time. I doubled them up to give some warmth and keep the straw from sticking to him. He's such a good kid.
As for what happened. We have no idea. He was in the corral on the opposite side of the gate where he should have been. I think they got to running and playing and he was pushed over the gate. It is 5 ft maybe a tad under. It is round panel type gate so no sharp edges and not a dent anywhere (and there should be from a horse landing on it). Both corrals are wooden planks and no T posts. There were 2 Rambouillet rams in the pen he was found in. They are normally typical sheep and scared to death of horses so I wonder if they didn't accidentally snag him with a horn if they got panicked and got to running around in there. They aren't "hooky" like a bull, more of a pund you into the ground type thing. But the height is just right -his chest/their horns. Here is what they look like for the non sheep peeps.
Stick with the Schreiners! That stuff works for everything, big or small! I, too, have used it for years and nothing has ever worked better. My yearling tore her face up this spring when she had a tantrum at the patience tree. Of course it was on a Sunday evening, so I had to call the local equine hospital instead of my regular vet. They charged me $1200 for stitches that tore through the skin and popped open three days later. I couldn't afford to have her stitched again so I just sprayed it with Schreiners twice a day and left it open, skin hanging down and all. It healed perfectly, no scar, and completely covered back up with hair. As far as stinging, I've never had a horse act up when being doctored with it. I have used it on my own open wounds and it does sting for about a second, but then it completely goes away and doesn't sting anymore. I'll attach a pic of my filly's wound. Not nearly as big as yours, but I have used it on other large open wounds with the same great results.
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Location: La Vernia, TX | Can't say enough good things about hydrotherapy. I know you're working against the weather, but if he were mine, I'd find a way to make it happen! Best of luck :) |
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Location: In Husker Land | This is my back up hors that I was working on until she hooked herself on our alleyway. Lots of stitches, but the flap died so had to cut the flap off later which left a gaping hole. Lots and lots of hydrotherapy, blu-kote, horseman's aloe vera cream, and vetercyn. And I have her on forco and platinum supplements. This happened in June and we finally are almost healed. Hydrotherapy is the best, big believer in it. At least you won't have to deal with flies..we went through three fly sheets this summer.
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Location: NC | Underwoods. It WILL work. I can promise you that. I have had plenty of experience with it & can tell you that IT WORKS. With minimal muss & fuss. Just spray it on, dust it with baking powder, & leave it alone. Twice-three times a day & it will be start to improve in days.
Here's what my gelding did. He was run into the fence by my other mare, got hung up on the tensioner. This was only a few weeks worth of treatment. HE NEVER SAW A VET. All I did was start spraying it with the Underwoods right away & kept a blanket on him. Now, you can't even see a scar.
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | I swear by Vetericyn ...it's like first few days it does a great job keeping infection out and then it willspeed healing within a couple more...I am always amazed at how great it works and on the different types of wounds... had one of my geldings try to scalp his forehead off and it healed with no scar...the gaping wound was bgger then my hand and nothing to stitch. I've used it on small and big wounds...deep wounds..ive bought the eye ointment and it healed one of my dogs eyes that had been punctured and was getting a cataract looking film ..vet said hed be blind in that eye...started using the ointment and you cant even tell it ever happened now...even the vet was amazed...its my go to med on the ranch...and for your horses injury it would be perfect..use the gel spray because it will keep it moist and sterile longer...but that stuff will keep infection out and it will heal amazingly fast and well... |
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Location: At the barn | total performance - 2013-12-09 3:39 PM
Pic 1-pic 2...what a difference. I would use Underwoods and Baking Powder on it. I had a mare that gashed herself open way worse than that from the front of her chest down and back up to her girth area. Started Underwoods and it healed without a scar. Amazing stuff.
Exactly. This is a perfect wound for Underwoods! |
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Location: Missouri | wyoming barrel racer - 2013-12-09 4:12 PM This is the worst one we had and it was on a untouched foal still on the mare. He was my keeper so at least he wasn't already sold. We didn't do anything for it but keep an eye on it. It healed wonderful. There was nothing to stitch and it was in a much cleaner environment in pasture with less dirt and flies than in the corral.
Same story with this little guy, except he had to be caught and trimmed like the OP's horse. He's 3 now and you can feel with your hand where the muscle is missing, but it doesn't bother him a bit.
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how well it heals. Hang in there! |
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Location: Anywhere my horses are ! Lost in Texas!!!!! | Add about a tablespoon of turmeric to his feed. It will help with the itching |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | No advice here but I did have a lot of luck with Underwoods in dealing with my worst case. Just sending your little guy and you good thoughts for healing  |
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