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Location: ND | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
juvie isn't the real world.....juvie is a semi precursor to the real world when you get out and you have nothing and your family has nothing left......then he will get a taste of the real world..... |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-13 12:12 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
All I can say is karma's a beeotch & she'll always find you. I hope those families take every last penny from that family & they have to struggle to make ends meet & live in a small apt. I sure hope he can't drive for those 10 years.
I have no time or energy for drunk drivers. There's a special place in hell for these kind of people. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | Happens all the time. I'm glad this case is so public. I doubt anything will change, but it's good to see some outrage. |
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Location: Texas | I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane.
10 years is a long time to be on probation. Once he's an adult & when not if he screws up he can go to jail instead of juvie. I have a feeling big Bubba in jail won't care how much money mommy & daddy have. I just really hope part of his probation is no driving he doesn't deserve it. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | It started with Chappaquiddick... Spoiled rich kids don't have to be responsible for their actions. |
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Location: Texas | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:23 PM aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane. 10 years is a long time to be on probation. Once he's an adult & when not if he screws up he can go to jail instead of juvie. I have a feeling big Bubba in jail won't care how much money mommy & daddy have. I just really hope part of his probation is no driving he doesn't deserve it.
I totally agree. He's an entitled rich kid, who's been coddled and taught he can do no wrong. And if he does do wrong, mommy and daddy will make it so he has no consequences.
I served on a jury this summer and was suprised that the thing pushed the most for punishment was rehabilitation. I'd lock this kid up and let Bubba have his way with him. But if he had been given jail time, I am betting it would be juvie and not actual prison. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:28 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:23 PM aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane. 10 years is a long time to be on probation. Once he's an adult & when not if he screws up he can go to jail instead of juvie. I have a feeling big Bubba in jail won't care how much money mommy & daddy have. I just really hope part of his probation is no driving he doesn't deserve it.
I served on a jury this summer and was suprised that the thing pushed the most for punishment was rehabilitation. I'd lock this kid up and let Bubba have his way with him. But if he had been given jail time, I am betting it would be juvie and not actual prison.
I work in the County Atty's office & see these brats all the time. Luckily not to this extent or I would have a hard time restraining myself. Rehab only works if the person wants to fix themselves. Obviously this kid thinks he can do no wrong so I'm sure he thinks if he makes it look like he's getting help them he'll get off. This kid has only been driving for a few years there's no way he'll be able to go 10 years without getting in more trouble.
I also heard that he was caught with an underage girl, who was undressed, & parents paid off the victim & her parents. If the judge is able to make the ruling that he is this way because of bad parenting maybe his parents should be charged too. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too...... |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:35 PM
How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too......
16 years old.....the parents should be burned too. |
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Location: ND | aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 1:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane.
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Location: ND | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:36 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:35 PM
How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too......
well...with an affluenza defense i would think that should make for an easy civil case against the parents.... |
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Location: Texas | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:32 PM aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:28 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:23 PM aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane. 10 years is a long time to be on probation. Once he's an adult & when not if he screws up he can go to jail instead of juvie. I have a feeling big Bubba in jail won't care how much money mommy & daddy have. I just really hope part of his probation is no driving he doesn't deserve it.
I served on a jury this summer and was suprised that the thing pushed the most for punishment was rehabilitation. I'd lock this kid up and let Bubba have his way with him. But if he had been given jail time, I am betting it would be juvie and not actual prison.
I also heard that he was caught with an underage girl, who was undressed, & parents paid off the victim & her parents. If the judge is able to make the ruling that he is this way because of bad parenting maybe his parents should be charged too.
I hope the families of the victims sue the kid and his family.
Only a matter of time before he screws up again. Hopefully, the parents can't buy their way out of it. And even more than that, hope his next screwup doesn't take another life or destroy someone.
The lesson this kid needs won't be learned in rehab. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-13 12:39 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:36 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:35 PM
How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too......
I think it would be a slam dunk. 2 of the passengers in his car are sueing him. One has a brain injury & the other had internal injuries. From what I understand they were riding in the back of the truck when he wrecked. |
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Location: ND | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:42 PM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-13 12:39 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:36 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:35 PM
How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too......
they should not be able to sue for anything.... |
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Location: California | What is the point of rehab with this kid?
He is 16 years old . No job . No income.
Cut off his finances , stop enabling him .
Going through rehab without wanting to go through rehab is a waste of time and money. The structure is set up to help guide you through self improvement and in order to do that you have to want to change. You have to want to take a deep look into your life and deal with the hard stuff .
Kid needs to go through the system and get man handled a bit . He KILLED people.
When he gets done with a jail sentence he will either want to act like a human or he will end up back in the system. Mommy and Daddy's money can't protect him in jail.
Ten years is a long probation period , this kid is inevitably screw up again and get what he deserves. |
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Location: ND | F Bar - 2013-12-13 1:53 PM What is the point of rehab with this kid?
He is 16 years old . No job . No income.
Cut off his finances , stop enabling him .
Going through rehab without wanting to go through rehab is a waste of time and money. The structure is set up to help guide you through self improvement and in order to do that you have to want to change. You have to want to take a deep look into your life and deal with the hard stuff .
Kid needs to go through the system and get man handled a bit . He KILLED people.
When he gets done with a jail sentence he will either want to act like a human or he will end up back in the system. Mommy and Daddy's money can't protect him in jail.
Ten years is a long probation period , this kid is inevitably screw up again and get what he deserves.
and the result if he doesn't??? |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | This is even worse. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Teen-Admits-Guilt-in-Drunken-Driving-Crash-That-Killed-Four-234477461.html |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:12 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
Anything??? |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Money talks and I'm sure many people got their palms greased with it..
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