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Location: NC | Nevertooold - 2013-12-16 11:59 PM hlynn - 2013-12-16 10:23 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2013-12-16 11:07 PM Forco and I have used it for years. I wouldn't consider it relatively new. "New to me" I haven't heard of it until it popped up all over the place here lately. I don't know it to be proven as a buffer, so I don't know if it would specifically help hind gut issues.
Research began around 25 years ago..~~Most digestive aid products are effective only in the foregut or early portion of the digestion system. This is especially true of microbial products. FORCO is unique, because it is designed to be effective throughout the entire alimentary system, from the mouth through the colon. This is a critical consideration for horses: the cecum portion of the hindgut that digests most of the forage fiber (hay and pasture ) and carbohydrates, and then the colon absorbs and/or synthesizes and absorbs vitamins, minerals, volatile fatty acids and amino acids. Because FORCO addresses the entire digestive process, horses respond to FORCO when they do not respond to other digestive aids.
Like I said, "new to me".
It's a digestive supplement. I've heard a lot of people like it, that's great. I'm not saying it doesn't work as it was designed.
But when it comes down to being made specifically made as a buffer for the hind gut, EquiShure is the only supplement that was designed specifically for those issues related to subclinical acidosis.
Not saying Forco would be a good addition. But it is not a buffer. Equishure was designed to balance the pH of the hind gut, preventing acidosis.
I'll post this directly from the description::
Time released hindgut buffer to decrease risk of hindgut acidosis in at risk horses. Horses consuming grain as part of their daily ration or grazing lush pasture have an increased risk of developing hindgut acidosis due to starch or fructan overload and resulting fermentation in the hindgut. EquiShure acts to attenuate changes in hindgut pH that may result from fermentation of starches in the hindgut.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | hlynn - 2013-12-16 11:09 PM Nevertooold - 2013-12-16 11:59 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-16 10:23 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2013-12-16 11:07 PM Forco and I have used it for years. I wouldn't consider it relatively new. "New to me" I haven't heard of it until it popped up all over the place here lately. I don't know it to be proven as a buffer, so I don't know if it would specifically help hind gut issues.
Research began around 25 years ago..
~~Most digestive aid products are effective only in the foregut or early portion of the digestion system. This is especially true of microbial products. FORCO is unique, because it is designed to be effective throughout the entire alimentary system, from the mouth through the colon. This is a critical consideration for horses: the cecum portion of the hindgut that digests most of the forage fiber (hay and pasture ) and carbohydrates, and then the colon absorbs and/or synthesizes and absorbs vitamins, minerals, volatile fatty acids and amino acids. Because FORCO addresses the entire digestive process, horses respond to FORCO when they do not respond to other digestive aids.
Like I said, "new to me".
It's a digestive supplement. I've heard a lot of people like it, that's great. I'm not saying it doesn't work as it was designed.
But when it comes down to being made specifically made as a buffer for the hind gut, EquiShure is the only supplement that was designed specifically for those issues related to subclinical acidosis.
Not saying Forco would be a good addition. But it is not a buffer. Equishure was designed to balance the pH of the hind gut, preventing acidosis.
I'll post this directly from the description::
Time released hindgut buffer to decrease risk of hindgut acidosis in at risk horses. Horses consuming grain as part of their daily ration or grazing lush pasture have an increased risk of developing hindgut acidosis due to starch or fructan overload and resulting fermentation in the hindgut. EquiShure acts to attenuate changes in hindgut pH that may result from fermentation of starches in the hindgut.
I'll stay with what works for me. FORCO | |
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Location: NC | Nevertooold - 2013-12-17 12:12 AM hlynn - 2013-12-16 11:09 PM Nevertooold - 2013-12-16 11:59 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-16 10:23 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2013-12-16 11:07 PM Forco and I have used it for years. I wouldn't consider it relatively new. "New to me" I haven't heard of it until it popped up all over the place here lately. I don't know it to be proven as a buffer, so I don't know if it would specifically help hind gut issues.
Research began around 25 years ago..
~~Most digestive aid products are effective only in the foregut or early portion of the digestion system. This is especially true of microbial products. FORCO is unique, because it is designed to be effective throughout the entire alimentary system, from the mouth through the colon. This is a critical consideration for horses: the cecum portion of the hindgut that digests most of the forage fiber (hay and pasture ) and carbohydrates, and then the colon absorbs and/or synthesizes and absorbs vitamins, minerals, volatile fatty acids and amino acids. Because FORCO addresses the entire digestive process, horses respond to FORCO when they do not respond to other digestive aids.
Like I said, "new to me".
It's a digestive supplement. I've heard a lot of people like it, that's great. I'm not saying it doesn't work as it was designed.
But when it comes down to being made specifically made as a buffer for the hind gut, EquiShure is the only supplement that was designed specifically for those issues related to subclinical acidosis.
Not saying Forco would be a good addition. But it is not a buffer. Equishure was designed to balance the pH of the hind gut, preventing acidosis.
I'll post this directly from the description::
Time released hindgut buffer to decrease risk of hindgut acidosis in at risk horses. Horses consuming grain as part of their daily ration or grazing lush pasture have an increased risk of developing hindgut acidosis due to starch or fructan overload and resulting fermentation in the hindgut. EquiShure acts to attenuate changes in hindgut pH that may result from fermentation of starches in the hindgut.
That's great. Good for you.
I was only answering the OP's original question::
I've been trying to do research on hind gut ulcers. What is the best supplement for it?
Forco, while great for maintenance, will not treat/help current issues. It was not designed in that aspect. It was designed to help the digestive system work like it should. EquiShure is a buffer. Proven to help with hind gut issues.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | hlynn - 2013-12-16 11:21 PM Nevertooold - 2013-12-17 12:12 AM hlynn - 2013-12-16 11:09 PM Nevertooold - 2013-12-16 11:59 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-16 10:23 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2013-12-16 11:07 PM Forco and I have used it for years. I wouldn't consider it relatively new. "New to me" I haven't heard of it until it popped up all over the place here lately. I don't know it to be proven as a buffer, so I don't know if it would specifically help hind gut issues.
Research began around 25 years ago..
~~Most digestive aid products are effective only in the foregut or early portion of the digestion system. This is especially true of microbial products. FORCO is unique, because it is designed to be effective throughout the entire alimentary system, from the mouth through the colon. This is a critical consideration for horses: the cecum portion of the hindgut that digests most of the forage fiber (hay and pasture ) and carbohydrates, and then the colon absorbs and/or synthesizes and absorbs vitamins, minerals, volatile fatty acids and amino acids. Because FORCO addresses the entire digestive process, horses respond to FORCO when they do not respond to other digestive aids.
Like I said, "new to me".
It's a digestive supplement. I've heard a lot of people like it, that's great. I'm not saying it doesn't work as it was designed.
But when it comes down to being made specifically made as a buffer for the hind gut, EquiShure is the only supplement that was designed specifically for those issues related to subclinical acidosis.
Not saying Forco would be a good addition. But it is not a buffer. Equishure was designed to balance the pH of the hind gut, preventing acidosis.
I'll post this directly from the description::
Time released hindgut buffer to decrease risk of hindgut acidosis in at risk horses. Horses consuming grain as part of their daily ration or grazing lush pasture have an increased risk of developing hindgut acidosis due to starch or fructan overload and resulting fermentation in the hindgut. EquiShure acts to attenuate changes in hindgut pH that may result from fermentation of starches in the hindgut. That's great. Good for you.
I was only answering the OP's original question::
I've been trying to do research on hind gut ulcers. What is the best supplement for it?
Forco, while great for maintenance, will not treat/help current issues. It was not designed in that aspect. It was designed to help the digestive system work like it should. EquiShure is a buffer. Proven to help with hind gut issues.
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Location: Texas | Formula 1 Noni.
Been using it for a while and love it so much I'm a rep.
It's great for your horses over all health, and extremely good for your horses digestive tract.
Prevents an eliminates ulcers too naturally | |
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Nevertooold - 2013-12-17 12:12 AM hlynn - 2013-12-16 11:09 PM Nevertooold - 2013-12-16 11:59 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-16 10:23 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2013-12-16 11:07 PM Forco and I have used it for years. I wouldn't consider it relatively new. "New to me" I haven't heard of it until it popped up all over the place here lately. I don't know it to be proven as a buffer, so I don't know if it would specifically help hind gut issues.
Research began around 25 years ago..
~~Most digestive aid products are effective only in the foregut or early portion of the digestion system. This is especially true of microbial products. FORCO is unique, because it is designed to be effective throughout the entire alimentary system, from the mouth through the colon. This is a critical consideration for horses: the cecum portion of the hindgut that digests most of the forage fiber (hay and pasture ) and carbohydrates, and then the colon absorbs and/or synthesizes and absorbs vitamins, minerals, volatile fatty acids and amino acids. Because FORCO addresses the entire digestive process, horses respond to FORCO when they do not respond to other digestive aids.
Like I said, "new to me".
It's a digestive supplement. I've heard a lot of people like it, that's great. I'm not saying it doesn't work as it was designed.
But when it comes down to being made specifically made as a buffer for the hind gut, EquiShure is the only supplement that was designed specifically for those issues related to subclinical acidosis.
Not saying Forco would be a good addition. But it is not a buffer. Equishure was designed to balance the pH of the hind gut, preventing acidosis.
I'll post this directly from the description::
Time released hindgut buffer to decrease risk of hindgut acidosis in at risk horses. Horses consuming grain as part of their daily ration or grazing lush pasture have an increased risk of developing hindgut acidosis due to starch or fructan overload and resulting fermentation in the hindgut. EquiShure acts to attenuate changes in hindgut pH that may result from fermentation of starches in the hindgut.
That's great. Good for you. I was only answering the OP's original question:: I've been trying to do research on hind gut ulcers. What is the best supplement for it? Forco, while great for maintenance, will not treat/help current issues. It was not designed in that aspect. It was designed to help the digestive system work like it should. EquiShure is a buffer. Proven to help with hind gut issues.
Lol tell that to my horse that had hind gut ulcers and no longer does. FORCO was the only change in his diet. | |
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Location: Windy Wyoming | hlynn - 2013-12-16 9:21 PM
Nevertooold - 2013-12-17 12:12 AM hlynn - 2013-12-16 11:09 PM Nevertooold - 2013-12-16 11:59 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-16 10:23 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2013-12-16 11:07 PM Forco and I have used it for years. I wouldn't consider it relatively new. "New to me" I haven't heard of it until it popped up all over the place here lately. I don't know it to be proven as a buffer, so I don't know if it would specifically help hind gut issues.
Research began around 25 years ago..
~~Most digestive aid products are effective only in the foregut or early portion of the digestion system. This is especially true of microbial products. FORCO is unique, because it is designed to be effective throughout the entire alimentary system, from the mouth through the colon. This is a critical consideration for horses: the cecum portion of the hindgut that digests most of the forage fiber (hay and pasture ) and carbohydrates, and then the colon absorbs and/or synthesizes and absorbs vitamins, minerals, volatile fatty acids and amino acids. Because FORCO addresses the entire digestive process, horses respond to FORCO when they do not respond to other digestive aids.
Like I said, "new to me".
It's a digestive supplement. I've heard a lot of people like it, that's great. I'm not saying it doesn't work as it was designed.
But when it comes down to being made specifically made as a buffer for the hind gut, EquiShure is the only supplement that was designed specifically for those issues related to subclinical acidosis.
Not saying Forco would be a good addition. But it is not a buffer. Equishure was designed to balance the pH of the hind gut, preventing acidosis.
I'll post this directly from the description::
Time released hindgut buffer to decrease risk of hindgut acidosis in at risk horses. Horses consuming grain as part of their daily ration or grazing lush pasture have an increased risk of developing hindgut acidosis due to starch or fructan overload and resulting fermentation in the hindgut. EquiShure acts to attenuate changes in hindgut pH that may result from fermentation of starches in the hindgut.
That's great. Good for you. I was only answering the OP's original question:: I've been trying to do research on hind gut ulcers. What is the best supplement for it? Forco, while great for maintenance, will not treat/help current issues. It was not designed in that aspect. It was designed to help the digestive system work like it should. EquiShure is a buffer. Proven to help with hind gut issues.
Actually forco does treat ulcers, I have several myself and others that can attest to that. Dave and Lynette developed it for their horses in race training that were getting nervous, ulcers, colic, weight issues and it took care of them all. Yes the product has been around for a LONG time! They don't use national backing, they use the word of mouth way. I started selling forco when my stud in race training died of colic in OK. Shame on me for not sending forco with him. Forco WAS developed for the hind gut along help with alot of other issues!
I just talked to Dave last week and this is what we talked about, ulcers! 1) Ulcers = bacterial infection on the intestinal wall, high stress in horses makes it worse....
2) stress= decrease of beneficial bacteria in the gut
3) FORCO= INCREASE of beneficial bacteria and DECREASE of pathogenic bacteria in the gut
4) FORCO = no more ulcers and no need for any "expensive special ulcer meds"
5) ulcers make the digestive system out of balance, forco makes the digestive system return to a happy in balance place!! Anything with a digestive system will benefit from forco!!
"Most digestive aid products are effective only in the foregut or early portion of the digestion system. This is especially true of microbial products. FORCO is unique, because it is designed to be effective throughout the entire alimentary system, from the mouth through the colon. This is a critical consideration for horses: the cecum portion of the hindgut that digests most of the forage fiber (hay and pasture) and carbohydrates, and then the colon absorbs and/or synthesizes and absorbs vitamins, minerals, volatile fatty acids and amino acids. Because FORCO addresses the entire digestive process, horses respond to FORCO when they do not respond to other digestive aids.
The digestive system is totally dependent on the function and populations of these beneficial digestive bacteria. Without adequate and normal levels of beneficial digestive bacteria, the digestive system cannot properly digest, assimilate, or absorb proper levels and balances of nutrients contained in the daily rations being fed the horse. This can result in a broad spectrum of health problems and deficiencies in the horse." http://www.forco.com/index.php/products/horsesupp
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| Just a thought but are sure it is his stomach that is bothering him? I went through a situation pretty similar to yours, my horse was very cinchy especially back cinch. I did all kinds of ulcer treatments and spent alot of money, come to find out it was a saddle fit issue, got a saddle that fits her and fixed the problem. Just something to think about.
After going through the ulcer treatments with this horse and another one (that def had ulcers) and in doing research on it, the best maintenance program I have found is FORCO all the time, hay in front of them all the time (if its an option), ulsershield from choiceofchamps.com (enter code coccm for discount, you can use any buffer ulser sheild is the most effective/cheap one I have used) I give 2 oz of ulsershield 2x a day starting 1 or 2 days before stressful event through the event, my ulcer prone horse gets gastrogaurd while hauling also. Since starting my horses on FORCO I can tell a difference in all of them, it took about 60 days. | |
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| I really like succeed for hindgut issues or smartdigest ultra by smart pak. | |
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Location: a secret | Succeed expensive but worth it my horse looks great on it | |
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Location: Texas! | I've been doing FORCO for about a month now and am very happy with it. We just bought a horse from down south and he was on the lean side, after only 10 days AND sub zero (I'm talking -30 temps) he looks awesome!
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Location: Sunny So Cal | THE GastroPLUS!!! Cleared my horses up in a month and I didn't have a relapse or adverse effects like other ulcer products. | |
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Location: Willows, CA | People who have been to a nutrition talk of mine will have heard this over and over. "We feed horses into trouble, then try to supplement them out of it. Better not to feed them into trouble in the first place." Get the high grain based part of the ration out, and the entire system has the chance to normalize. Once this happens everything has the chance to work better, including the hind gut. This is how horses evolved to make energy. I have heard good things from FORCO users. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | winwillows - 2013-12-26 12:22 PM People who have been to a nutrition talk of mine will have heard this over and over. "We feed horses into trouble, then try to supplement them out of it. Better not to feed them into trouble in the first place." Get the high grain based part of the ration out, and the entire system has the chance to normalize. Once this happens everything has the chance to work better, including the hind gut. This is how horses evolved to make energy. I have heard good things from FORCO users.
I couldn't agree more and is why I feed very little grain and FORCO.
I finally found someone that carries Renew Gold and I'm anxious to try it. I love the amount you give. Makes sense to me.
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