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Location: North Dakota | My guy was crossfiring in back during a barrel turn. He also doesn't use his hind end properly and wants to swing it out.
I've only recently found out he had a stifle issue at the end of the season this year. Haven't been able to keep him legged up with the ice and snow, and with moving into a new house (so time consuming!). But I do want to experiment with injections in the spring and see how he responds to it. |
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Location: Oregon | The more people tell me their experiences some things will sound like him and some wont but this isnt a big issue (yet) with my guy BUT my older gaming horse who is retired now really sounds like him.. Does any know how much about injections are? I know they vary but just wondering about how much they run.... |
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Location: OK | That all depends on what medicine you inject with. Sometimes anywhere from $45-$90 a joint. Some vets are higher. It also totally depends on your horse and how hard you use him how long it will last.
My vet will say, go ride him. When you feel him get different, we will know next time to get him in before he starts to hurt.
Not all horses once injected will have to be continuously injected. |
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| If your horse has bad stifles i would not put rims on the horse. around here in virginia we dont usually use rims on back of a horse especially if your horse is a butt dragger. Some on straight in straight horses maybe. Rims cause a lot of torque on hocks and stifles. I dont rodeo so i know they are people that rodeo who use rims all the way around. i just know that this is my opinion and of several farriers. |
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Location: Oregon | jojammer - 2013-12-23 3:41 PM
That all depends on what medicine you inject with. Sometimes anywhere from $45-$90 a joint. Some vets are higher. It also totally depends on your horse and how hard you use him how long it will last.
My vet will say, go ride him. When you feel him get different, we will know next time to get him in before he starts to hurt.
Not all horses once injected will have to be continuously injected.
Thank you for answering :) that helps...
Both of my boys will be getting looked at soon :) |
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| Haven't read through everyone's responses, so this may be a repeat 
From experience, a horse sore in the stifles can be short strided on the the bad side... like not stepping up in the tracks from the front feet. Also, just feeling the stifle joint, putting some pressure with your fingers in the joint can be a tell tale sign. Also, running your fingers (middle finger and thumb at the same time is what I use) over the muscles right behind the stifle on the butt...they will twinge, fall away from you, and/or raise up their leg when you go over this spot if they are sore in the stifle. Hope this helps!  |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | BKC2112 - 2013-12-23 8:33 PM
jojammer - 2013-12-23 3:41 PM
That all depends on what medicine you inject with. Sometimes anywhere from $45-$90 a joint. Some vets are higher. It also totally depends on your horse and how hard you use him how long it will last.
My vet will say, go ride him. When you feel him get different, we will know next time to get him in before he starts to hurt.
Not all horses once injected will have to be continuously injected.
Thank you for answering : ) that helps...
Both of my boys will be getting looked at soon : )
I would pull X-rays 1st. Injections won't help for some stifle issues. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | mreklaw - 2013-12-24 7:09 AM BKC2112 - 2013-12-23 8:33 PM jojammer - 2013-12-23 3:41 PM That all depends on what medicine you inject with. Sometimes anywhere from $45-$90 a joint. Some vets are higher. It also totally depends on your horse and how hard you use him how long it will last. My vet will say, go ride him. When you feel him get different, we will know next time to get him in before he starts to hurt. Not all horses once injected will have to be continuously injected. Thank you for answering : ) that helps... Both of my boys will be getting looked at soon : ) I would pull X-rays 1st. Injections won't help for some stifle issues.
There can be a lot of reasons for stifle problems.
In my mare's case, injecting her would help her for a few weeks. The injections were around $100.
The only thing I could do to fix her was have the chips removed that were floating around in there. Fortunately I was able to get them taken out before they caused a lot of damage to the cartilage.
If I'd left them in there and just kept injecting her, she would have eventually just become more and more lame.
In her case she never really was lame unless the vet flexed her...she just did the things in a run I mentioned earlier like blowing off, slipping on her hind end. She was clocking in the 1D and won and placed at several futurities with these chips in her stifle so sometimes it's pretty subtle and you may not know there's a problem with a horse like her until it's too late.
Edited by rockinas 2013-12-24 8:48 AM
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Location: Bandera, TX | Outwest - 2013-12-22 11:53 PM drpepper - 2013-12-22 8:08 PM Not wanting to back, will not extend back leg to be cleaned out, cross firing an ducking at the turn that hurts the worst. Do they also walk funny going down hills?
YES! going down some will flat refuse and some will swing their hips to the opposite side to avoid the concussion as they travel up the hill. Now remember hill work is very important for these horses but first get an antinflammatory in them (direct to joint, IMO) to arrest the cycle of pain. Before getting on with your planned rehab. |
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Location: sunny california | for those that inject... how long did it last? |
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Location: Bandera, TX | rockinas - 2013-12-24 8:45 AM mreklaw - 2013-12-24 7:09 AM BKC2112 - 2013-12-23 8:33 PM jojammer - 2013-12-23 3:41 PM That all depends on what medicine you inject with. Sometimes anywhere from $45-$90 a joint. Some vets are higher. It also totally depends on your horse and how hard you use him how long it will last. My vet will say, go ride him. When you feel him get different, we will know next time to get him in before he starts to hurt. Not all horses once injected will have to be continuously injected. Thank you for answering : ) that helps... Both of my boys will be getting looked at soon : ) I would pull X-rays 1st. Injections won't help for some stifle issues.
There can be a lot of reasons for stifle problems.
In my mare's case, injecting her would help her for a few weeks. The injections were around $100.
The only thing I could do to fix her was have the chips removed that were floating around in there. Fortunately I was able to get them taken out before they caused a lot of damage to the cartilage.
If I'd left them in there and just kept injecting her, she would have eventually just become more and more lame.
In her case she never really was lame unless the vet flexed her...she just did the things in a run I mentioned earlier like blowing off, slipping on her hind end. She was clocking in the 1D and won and placed at several futurities with these chips in her stifle so sometimes it's pretty subtle and you may not know there's a problem with a horse like her until it's too late.
I want to add to Amy's comment because it is very revelent in a DX. If they see anything suspect and you have the means let them do a scope of the joint. I've had several race horses that we suspected a lesion via U/S and X-rays, got them in surgery and pulled chips and smoothed articular surfaces-something that the owner was told we need to watch this. Don't delay do what you can to keep them functional. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:16 AM for those that inject... how long did it last?
That all depends on the individuals circumstances. |
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Location: sunny california | uno-dos-tres! - 2013-12-24 7:23 AM kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:16 AM for those that inject... how long did it last? That all depends on the individuals circumstances.
arthroscopic surgery went very well and it healed very nicely. had to blioster/perforate the ligament but can't stop it from catching. aquatred helped some but unless the horse is completely maxed out in fitness he catches. before going to cutting, vet wants to try injections and aquatred. vet is 4 hours away and quatred is 3 1/2 so I don't know how long I can keep this up without even considering the expense |
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Location: North Dakota | kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:16 AM for those that inject... how long did it last?
Mine last about 3-4 months. |
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Location: sunny california | WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2013-12-24 7:33 AM kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:16 AM for those that inject... how long did it last? Mine last about 3-4 months.
are you using any steroids or just legend? |
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Location: North Dakota | kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:37 AM WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2013-12-24 7:33 AM kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:16 AM for those that inject... how long did it last? Mine last about 3-4 months.
My vet injects a steroid along with Legend. I would have to check my paperwork to see what he injected since its been over a year since the last time I injected him, however Vetalog comes to mind first. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | uno-dos-tres! - 2013-12-24 9:23 AM kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:16 AM for those that inject... how long did it last? That all depends on the individuals circumstances.
6-8 weeks when I was running her. I was having legend and vetalog put in.
I was advised by the surgeon to have her injected with Legend 4 weeks post surgery so I just had that done last Friday.
So far so good!
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Location: Oregon | I will be having my old retired guy vetted and xrayed by a new vet ... the last one was not helpful and he is getting worse and worse especially since we have moved to a new barn and the isle ways are concrete :/... I didnt think much about it at first but now i think he is getting way worse because of it... ughh I will also have my other horse vetted when we get him looked at... |
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Location: sunny california | rockinas - 2013-12-24 10:17 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2013-12-24 9:23 AM kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:16 AM for those that inject... how long did it last? That all depends on the individuals circumstances.
I was advised by the surgeon to have her injected with Legend 4 weeks post surgery so I just had that done last Friday.
So far so good!
ya I did all that along with adequan and platinum cj. the surgery went great and the post op pics look great. Glad you went right in and got the surgery instead of making things worse I look forward to hearing great news about yours!
we just can't get him to quit sticking without him being on the superhorse program and quite frankly he scares the crap outa me when he is that crazy fit LOL |
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Location: Oklahoma | kwanatha - 2013-12-24 4:38 PM
rockinas - 2013-12-24 10:17 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2013-12-24 9:23 AM kwanatha - 2013-12-24 9:16 AM for those that inject... how long did it last? That all depends on the individuals circumstances.
I was advised by the surgeon to have her injected with Legend 4 weeks post surgery so I just had that done last Friday.
So far so good!
we just can't get him to quit sticking without him being on the superhorse program and quite frankly he scares the crap outa me when he is that crazy fit LOL
For catching, I get the ligament blistered internally. It doesn't damage the joint like injecting because it only goes into the ligament and tightens it...not into the joint. Injections don't really help catching....they just help with inflammation caused by catching. |
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