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Location: Midwest | TXBO - 2014-01-02 12:39 PM If it's a matter of freedom, why just legalize pot?
Why shouldn't I be able to take a Valium after dinner and watch a Barney Miller marathon on TNT?
Plenty of people do just that
I think some people should have mandatory valium actually (kidding) |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | hammer_time - 2014-01-02 11:21 AM Here's my take: it's much better than alcohol. You don't see people getting in fights, or becoming abusive/belligerent/irrational when they smoke pot. I've smoked it, and I have no desire to try any other hard drugs. Weed was not a gateway drug for me. I like to enjoy it at my Dave Matthews Band concerts and that's about it.
I imagine that there will be random drug tests just like there are now.
I just hate the fact that we are paying to keep people in jail for having small amounts of weed in them. Pounds of marijuana, yes, they probably should be incarcerated. Recreational amounts--no way. Waste of our taxes.
That is simply not true. Sorry. I've worked in & owned bars for over 35 years & there's not much I haven't seen and/or done myself. When the occasional recreational user is high they cannot maintain a thought process very well...they forget from moment to moment what's going on...think sever adhd. Frequent users become somewhat numb to the effects & it becomes who they are...they actually can function fairly well, although not at top form.
I've witnesses drunks & druggies both fighting & being belligerent & irrational. Granted the pot head is usually not as 'sharp', therefore, easier to handle.
Also, as an employer I can promise you that I can tell who smokes, when & how long it's been. I do not expect much from drug users, yet, I've known alcoholics who have worked hard their whole lives & you'd never really know they had a problem.
I honestly do not care what people choose to do as long as it doesn't affect me or mine. I support freedom.
Mostly I'd say that the abuse of anything isn't gonna end well...lol. |
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Location: Bennett, CO | I honestly don't see it as an issue...especially the medical MJ....even the recreational...
however.. I HATE that my state has become a drug destination.
i really don't like that this is all the news is talking about.
when it comes to employers.... It is still considered against federal law...and if you pop hot for any drug..including MJ...your employer can fire you.
in the case of those with Commercial Drivers Licences....they are still subject to drug testing... And if they fail the test, they have to be fired, as if for no other reason, they are uninsurable |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | TXBO - 2014-01-02 11:39 AM If it's a matter of freedom, why just legalize pot?
Why shouldn't I be able to take a Valium after dinner and watch a Barney Miller marathon on TNT?
That's right! Legalize suicide, too.
I seriously do not care if some people are dumb enought o smoke meth or shoot heroin into their veins! The problem is the dollar that's involved.
Rehab. Jail. It puts the burden on the non-users. And 'taxing' it isn't the answer, either...that just makes me ill. We all become 'dealers'. |
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Location: Texas | TXBO - 2014-01-02 12:39 PM If it's a matter of freedom, why just legalize pot?
Why shouldn't I be able to take a Valium after dinner and watch a Barney Miller marathon on TNT?
It's the picking and choosing that I have an issue with...
But we've had this discussion before! Miss ya TX! |
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| musikmaker - 2014-01-02 12:53 PM
TXBO - 2014-01-02 11:39 AM If it's a matter of freedom, why just legalize pot?
Why shouldn't I be able to take a Valium after dinner and watch a Barney Miller marathon on TNT?
That's right! Legalize suicide, too.
I seriously do not care if some people are dumb enought o smoke meth or shoot heroin into their veins! The problem is the dollar that's involved.
Rehab. Jail. It puts the burden on the non-users. And 'taxing' it isn't the answer, either...that just makes me ill. We all become 'dealers'.
The "war" on drugs has cost us more financially than any treatment would and that doesnt include our freedoms getting trampled on. |
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| justcruzin - 2014-01-02 11:52 AM
Marijuana has many medical benefits, alcohol has one, its an antiseptic......
I would rather deal with someone stoned than drunk, any day.
1000X THIS
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | This will do more for the war on drugs than anything we've done so far, in the sense that it will hurt the drug cartels big time. I want to see how this plays out. We should have some good answers within about 5 years.
I kinda like the idea of going to the pot shop after work and picking up a couple dubees for the weekend. If I want to smoke a dubee and sit out in the screened porch and stare at Bald Eagles all day I can do it.
I think this will eventually become the law of the land, if I had to guess. |
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Location: Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 1:13 PM This will do more for the war on drugs than anything we've done so far, in the sense that it will hurt the drug cartels big time. I want to see how this plays out. We should have some good answers within about 5 years.
I kinda like the idea of going to the pot shop after work and picking up a couple dubees for the weekend. If I want to smoke a dubee and sit out in the screened porch and stare at Bald Eagles all day I can do it.
I think this will eventually become the law of the land, if I had to guess.
The biggest hurdle would be the cartels themselves. They have more $ to lobby against legalization than anyone else -- plus they play dirty. Scraping up dirt on politicians wouldn't be tough. Money + bribery is how to get things done in the lawmaking world and drug cartels are experts at both. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | DD2012 - 2014-01-02 12:13 PM justcruzin - 2014-01-02 11:52 AM Marijuana has many medical benefits, alcohol has one, its an antiseptic......
I would rather deal with someone stoned than drunk, any day. 1000X THIS
Have we considered that perhaps those who wish to control us feel the same way?
Heck, everything's nearly 'color-coded' now...won't be too long before the world can be maintained by potheads! Lmbo...
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| Nateracer - 2014-01-02 11:16 AM What I honestly want to know if how they are going to collect those taxes from ALL of the growers.
We all know that there are scads of private growers who currently are secretive. They aren't going to run to the govt. and tell them they are growing pot so they can lose out on some of their profit. They'll just sell it on the street corner for cheaper than you can get it at "Famous Pot Sellers" down the street.
They had it all over the news last night, ALL over it. I used it as an opportunity to pound into my son what a waste of money, time and energy it was. They had lines for hours and they didn't close until 10:45 last night! Craziness. One guy said he moved from N.J. to come out here and smoke pot. Oh, great. I see a real issue wtih our "services" that are going to be stretched to the max of already stretched services now.
Like someone else said, I don't see this making it to the schools.
Also, the tax will come when they sell it to the consumer, like anything wholesale, the store owner doesn't pay a tax until he sells it and it's much easier to track a stores intake via reciepts and taxes than it is a corner dealers.
Scares me that I drive (and my oldest drives) on the same roads as people stoned. That's what worries me. You can spot an acoholic as they use all the lines to stay on the highway, but you can't tell someone is going 25 MPH until you almost rear-end them..............................
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | smiley - 2014-01-02 2:10 PM Nateracer - 2014-01-02 11:16 AM What I honestly want to know if how they are going to collect those taxes from ALL of the growers.
We all know that there are scads of private growers who currently are secretive. They aren't going to run to the govt. and tell them they are growing pot so they can lose out on some of their profit. They'll just sell it on the street corner for cheaper than you can get it at "Famous Pot Sellers" down the street.
They had it all over the news last night, ALL over it. I used it as an opportunity to pound into my son what a waste of money, time and energy it was. They had lines for hours and they didn't close until 10:45 last night! Craziness. One guy said he moved from N.J. to come out here and smoke pot. Oh, great. I see a real issue wtih our "services" that are going to be stretched to the max of already stretched services now.
Like someone else said, I don't see this making it to the schools.
Also, the tax will come when they sell it to the consumer, like anything wholesale, the store owner doesn't pay a tax until he sells it and it's much easier to track a stores intake via reciepts and taxes than it is a corner dealers.
Scares me that I drive (and my oldest drives) on the same roads as people stoned. That's what worries me. You can spot an acoholic as they use all the lines to stay on the highway, but you can't tell someone is going 25 MPH until you almost rear-end them..............................
I think I'm going to move to Colorado so Smiley and I can sit out on a mountain and discuss vaccines...maybe even start a commune. Have bong will travel. Maybe we can find one of those florescent trees like the ones in "Avitar". We can all gather around and chant and move in perfect synchrony.
I think it's wonderful that the progressive state of Colorado is willing to be a huge social guinea pig. |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 1:18 PM smiley - 2014-01-02 2:10 PM Nateracer - 2014-01-02 11:16 AM What I honestly want to know if how they are going to collect those taxes from ALL of the growers.
We all know that there are scads of private growers who currently are secretive. They aren't going to run to the govt. and tell them they are growing pot so they can lose out on some of their profit. They'll just sell it on the street corner for cheaper than you can get it at "Famous Pot Sellers" down the street.
They had it all over the news last night, ALL over it. I used it as an opportunity to pound into my son what a waste of money, time and energy it was. They had lines for hours and they didn't close until 10:45 last night! Craziness. One guy said he moved from N.J. to come out here and smoke pot. Oh, great. I see a real issue wtih our "services" that are going to be stretched to the max of already stretched services now.
Like someone else said, I don't see this making it to the schools.
Also, the tax will come when they sell it to the consumer, like anything wholesale, the store owner doesn't pay a tax until he sells it and it's much easier to track a stores intake via reciepts and taxes than it is a corner dealers.
Scares me that I drive (and my oldest drives) on the same roads as people stoned. That's what worries me. You can spot an acoholic as they use all the lines to stay on the highway, but you can't tell someone is going 25 MPH until you almost rear-end them..............................
I think it's wonderful that the progressive state of Colorado is willing to be a huge social guinea pig.
The only two things I truly hate in life - pot and vaccines. I'd have to be stoned to sit around with you and talk vaccines. LOL. And since the ONLY time I could EVER see myself being stoned is if I were dying of cancer, you probably shouldn't hold your breath......................
Now, if you can dance, we can further discuss the commune idea.................wait, is your wife mean??  |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 1:13 PM This will do more for the war on drugs than anything we've done so far, in the sense that it will hurt the drug cartels big time. I want to see how this plays out. We should have some good answers within about 5 years.
I kinda like the idea of going to the pot shop after work and picking up a couple dubees for the weekend. If I want to smoke a dubee and sit out in the screened porch and stare at Bald Eagles all day I can do it.
I think this will eventually become the law of the land, if I had to guess.
I don't think it's going to effect the drug cartels as they will be selling it cheaper. They just had a report on TV that the legal pot is selling for $400.00 while on the street it's $100.00. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I don't have a wife yet, but I'm working on it, Smiley. Can I dance? Oh baby, I can cut a rug like Fred Astair on meth. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | KylaKris - 2014-01-02 12:12 PM fatchance - 2014-01-02 10:53 AM As you all know Washington state is right behind them.
Personally not sure I see where the problem is....But it's a problem for those who choose to smoke it, because they are taxing the hell out of it 25% plus a sales tax! They are going to be seeking out the black market in droves! lol I don't see the issue either. Imagine the money coming in from the tax being collected. It is a totally different scenario, but here in Idaho all money from lottery and scratch tickets help pay for public schools. Not that you want money from pot paying for schools, but think what else they could do with it. I for one, may have to move to CO or WA and open shop to help pay the bills. 
And do you really think that the lottery money has actually gone into schools? LOL |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 2:38 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 1:13 PM This will do more for the war on drugs than anything we've done so far, in the sense that it will hurt the drug cartels big time. I want to see how this plays out. We should have some good answers within about 5 years.
I kinda like the idea of going to the pot shop after work and picking up a couple dubees for the weekend. If I want to smoke a dubee and sit out in the screened porch and stare at Bald Eagles all day I can do it.
I think this will eventually become the law of the land, if I had to guess. I don't think it's going to effect the drug cartels as they will be selling it cheaper. They just had a report on TV that the legal pot is selling for $400.00 while on the street it's $100.00.
LOL.....I can see it now. A bunch of pot shops open for business.......fast forward 2 years.....windows all boarded up.
Colorado is going to be one long Cheech and Chong gig. |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 1:39 PM I don't have a wife yet, but I'm working on it, Smiley. Can I dance? Oh baby, I can cut a rug like Fred Astair on meth.
LOLOL
What's with all the drug references lately, you hitting up the pharmacy cabinet at work?
My dear, grumpy, but handsome husband never takes me dancing........................but if we lived in a commune............well...............I could have my cake and eat it too. HA. |
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Location: Dassel MN | this cracks me up. the same people that are just skippy with this will hang a tobacco smoker from the highest tree.... |
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