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| dream_chaser - 2014-01-02 4:56 PM
WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-01-02 3:10 PM DD2012 - 2014-01-02 3:25 PM dream_chaser - 2014-01-02 3:23 PM There has been many threads on this topic.....I do think weight plays a factor, but I also believe being in SHAPE plays even more of a factor! When your in shape, your able to work together with your horse better.
Here's a simple truth Most (not all that would be spelled different ) "in shape" women are not going to be heavy. And exactly what constitutes the definition of "heavy?" I know women who weigh 170 and 180 lbs that are lean, mean, muscle machines. Muscle weighs more than fat so I don't buy the BS of less than "in shape" women are heavy.LOL I've also seen plenty of "soft" thin people.
You will I will give a pass to since being from Canada ESL
but I can only assume that the one you are dittoing does not put a lot of value on reading comprehension.
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Location: North Dakota | DD2012 - 2014-01-02 4:58 PM dream_chaser - 2014-01-02 4:56 PM WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-01-02 3:10 PM DD2012 - 2014-01-02 3:25 PM dream_chaser - 2014-01-02 3:23 PM There has been many threads on this topic.....I do think weight plays a factor, but I also believe being in SHAPE plays even more of a factor! When your in shape, your able to work together with your horse better.
Here's a simple truth Most (not all that would be spelled different ) "in shape" women are not going to be heavy. And exactly what constitutes the definition of "heavy?" I know women who weigh 170 and 180 lbs that are lean, mean, muscle machines. Muscle weighs more than fat so I don't buy the BS of less than "in shape" women are heavy.LOL I've also seen plenty of "soft" thin people.
You will I will give a pass to since being from Canada ESL but I can only assume that the one you are dittoing does not put a lot of value on reading comprehension.
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Location: Where it is too cold, SD | While I KNOW I am overweight and need to lose about 50 pounds ...............
If I was to lose that weight ..........I am 6ft tall and have a big bone structure. I will never be 120 pounds ever. Even if I were anorexic. So with that I think that if I were at a "thin" weight for my build and height? My 150 pounds compared to a 5'2' gal weighing 150 pounds would be a big difference.
In any case - I need to start eating healthier and monitoring portion size! Stop my snacking so that come summer I am not a big ol ooompha looompha good year tire man sized cousin to the Pillsbury Dough boy wanna be barrel racer  |
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| WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-01-02 5:08 PM
DD2012 - 2014-01-02 4:58 PM dream_chaser - 2014-01-02 4:56 PM WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-01-02 3:10 PM DD2012 - 2014-01-02 3:25 PM dream_chaser - 2014-01-02 3:23 PM There has been many threads on this topic.....I do think weight plays a factor, but I also believe being in SHAPE plays even more of a factor! When your in shape, your able to work together with your horse better.
Here's a simple truth Most (not all that would be spelled different ) "in shape" women are not going to be heavy. And exactly what constitutes the definition of "heavy?" I know women who weigh 170 and 180 lbs that are lean, mean, muscle machines. Muscle weighs more than fat so I don't buy the BS of less than "in shape" women are heavy.LOL I've also seen plenty of "soft" thin people.
You will I will give a pass to since being from Canada ESL but I can only assume that the one you are dittoing does not put a lot of value on reading comprehension.
I'll let you study on this for a while
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Location: TN | dream_chaser - 2014-01-02 3:23 PM There has been many threads on this topic.....I do think weight plays a factor, but I also believe being in SHAPE plays even more of a factor! When your in shape, your able to work together with your horse better.
I agree and sometimes being in shape can mean you weigh a few pounds more than just being thin. I've started working out again and I can tell a big difference in my strength. I look and feel better than I did at 127 lbs (when I was never exercising other than riding) but I weigh 132 now. Muscle just weighs more than fat I guess. |
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Location: Way up North | Put a backpack on with 50#s in it and run around for awhile then take half out, guarentee you will feel a difference. I am a heavier barrel racer and while I think I ride decently well I know I have to work a lot harder at it than I did several pounds ago. I also can't make the type of mistakes other riders can because it affects my horse more. I have put myself at a disadvantage because of my weight especially running against the youth that enter the open. When I weigh twice as much as they do you can't tell me it's not a disadvantage to my horse. That being said, your riding ability and how you move with your horse will make the biggest difference.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | There's a big difference in a race horse running and a barrel horse sprinting for under 17 seconds.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 6:30 PM There's a big difference in a race horse running and a barrel horse sprinting for under 17 seconds.
I think this is true, NTO, but there has to be a line beyond which it makes a significant difference. If I weigh 190 lbs and a rider weighing 130 lbs, of identical ability, rides my same horse, I am pretty sure she/he would clock consistently a lot better. It just makes sense. It's a fact of life, much to my chagrin. Now 10-15 lbs, probably not a significant difference, but at some point it matters a lot. |
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Location: ND | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 7:41 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 6:30 PM There's a big difference in a race horse running and a barrel horse sprinting for under 17 seconds.
I think this is true, NTO, but there has to be a line beyond which it makes a significant difference. If I weigh 190 lbs and a rider weighing 130 lbs, of identical ability, rides my same horse, I am pretty sure she/he would clock consistently a lot better. It just makes sense. It's a fact of life, much to my chagrin. Now 10-15 lbs, probably not a significant difference, but at some point it matters a lot.
comparing the same rider, 10-15 pounds makes a huge difference.......and yes, while muscle weighs more than fat, racers aren't meant to look like bodybuilders on a horse....... |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 7:41 PM Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 6:30 PM There's a big difference in a race horse running and a barrel horse sprinting for under 17 seconds.
I think this is true, NTO, but there has to be a line beyond which it makes a significant difference. If I weigh 190 lbs and a rider weighing 130 lbs, of identical ability, rides my same horse, I am pretty sure she/he would clock consistently a lot better. It just makes sense. It's a fact of life, much to my chagrin. Now 10-15 lbs, probably not a significant difference, but at some point it matters a lot.
Of course it will but...many youth riders run faster because they just kick and go and never get in the horse's way.
If a horse isn't fitted with the weight he is going to run with, that will sure make a difference.
With what a lot of people are saying...Male futurity riders shouldn't be doing as well as they do.
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Location: Kansas and loving it | Weight does matter and can make a huge difference. Although horse racing is quite different, handicaps are weighted, fillies get weight breaks. For barrel racing I was told a tenth of a second equals ten pounds over weight of rider. I also think that ability goes longer than weight. This is why I think men do well despite being heavier than a lot of women. |
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| dhdqhllc - 2014-01-02 7:48 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 7:41 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 6:30 PM There's a big difference in a race horse running and a barrel horse sprinting for under 17 seconds.
I think this is true, NTO, but there has to be a line beyond which it makes a significant difference. If I weigh 190 lbs and a rider weighing 130 lbs, of identical ability, rides my same horse, I am pretty sure she/he would clock consistently a lot better. It just makes sense. It's a fact of life, much to my chagrin. Now 10-15 lbs, probably not a significant difference, but at some point it matters a lot.
comparing the same rider, 10-15 pounds makes a huge difference.......and yes, while muscle weighs more than fat, racers aren't meant to look like bodybuilders on a horse.......
Whats a "huge" difference?
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| They say 1/10 of a second for every 10 pounds. In Brazil everyone must weigh at least 165 pounds or be weighted . |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | azin - 2014-01-02 8:58 PM They say 1/10 of a second for every 10 pounds. In Brazil everyone must weigh at least 165 pounds or be weighted .
Interesting and that is where the record is held on a standard course. That run was amazing. |
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| I think that barrel horse world did an article about this and it said about the 1/10th people are saying. I am 4'8 (forever until I start shrinking) and 90 not in shape (but I am working on a healthier living after my friend got diagnosed with IC) and my 15'3 horse can do well for not being in shape( college gal who took a summer class so I didn't have anytime). Had been an average person I am sure he would not have ran as well as he did. I also think height plays into factor just a little bit. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I believe abilty weighs in more then weight. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 7:57 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 7:41 PM Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 6:30 PM There's a big difference in a race horse running and a barrel horse sprinting for under 17 seconds.
I think this is true, NTO, but there has to be a line beyond which it makes a significant difference. If I weigh 190 lbs and a rider weighing 130 lbs, of identical ability, rides my same horse, I am pretty sure she/he would clock consistently a lot better. It just makes sense. It's a fact of life, much to my chagrin. Now 10-15 lbs, probably not a significant difference, but at some point it matters a lot.
If a horse isn't fitted with the weight he is going to run with, that will sure make a difference.
With what a lot of people are saying...Male futurity riders shouldn't be doing as well as they do.
You have a good point there, NTO. It's probably because men tend to be better riders. Oops, I guess we just had this discussion, didn't we? |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 9:42 PM Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 7:57 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-01-02 7:41 PM Nevertooold - 2014-01-02 6:30 PM There's a big difference in a race horse running and a barrel horse sprinting for under 17 seconds.
I think this is true, NTO, but there has to be a line beyond which it makes a significant difference. If I weigh 190 lbs and a rider weighing 130 lbs, of identical ability, rides my same horse, I am pretty sure she/he would clock consistently a lot better. It just makes sense. It's a fact of life, much to my chagrin. Now 10-15 lbs, probably not a significant difference, but at some point it matters a lot.
If a horse isn't fitted with the weight he is going to run with, that will sure make a difference.
With what a lot of people are saying...Male futurity riders shouldn't be doing as well as they do.
There is a difference in dragging one around the barrels but barrel racing is a timed event..not judged. Sometimes muscle beats out finesse..LOL |
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