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Just hope the "Big Guns" don't set something up that mainly benefits them and forgets about the "little guys." They need to remember that those little guys and rookies help pay a lot of entry fees into the pot that make the rodeos pay even better for everyone.
JMHO...........
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| phoenix - 2014-01-07 2:13 AM
Interesting...........
Just hope the "Big Guns" don't set something up that mainly benefits them and forgets about the "little guys." They need to remember that those little guys and rookies help pay a lot of entry fees into the pot that make the rodeos pay even better for everyone.
JMHO...........
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Location: Roping pen | Might be hard to get the committee's to change their approvals with the PRCA. To me, the contestants and the PRCA have forgotten about the committees that put on the rodeos once again.
I know we won't change our rodeo just yet until the new association is proven. Just because the top performers approve of it, there is no guarantee that it will work. Look how long the PBR took and all the issues it went thru.
I know our rodeo is all about ticket sales and we sell a lot more when we have "local" contestants than when we have world champions..... |
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| phoenix - 2014-01-07 1:13 AM Interesting........... Just hope the "Big Guns" don't set something up that mainly benefits them and forgets about the "little guys." They need to remember that those little guys and rookies help pay a lot of entry fees into the pot that make the rodeos pay even better for everyone. JMHO........... That was my first thought too- I appreciate that they want to "preserve" the heritage of the sport, but truthfully, rodeo didn't get it's beginnings with million dollar cowboys hauling up and down the road and entering rodeos for a living. I just hope the majority of PRCA members who may not ever make the NFR will have a say in what goes on as well- unless this new organization is one for just the elite. I agree with some others- this is all to vaugue to form any opinions on right now, but it's hard not to worry.
eta: on another note, I do have to say that I just hate how the NFR contestants are treated as employees when they finally do get to the NFR. What other top level athlete in any top-level sport has to be up early to practice, then off to autograph signings and special appearances all day, then rush back to get ready to compete, compete at the largest venue in the sport, then stay up late, take care of thier horse, get a little bit of rest, then back at it first thing in the morning for 10 days in a row? How can they possibly be at their best?? Would anyone expect Kobe Bryant or Tiger Woods to keep that schedule during thier most important Finals of the year? I know it's not all the PRCA that makes these demands on them, it's the sponsors an host hotels as well, but I just hate to see them all treated like carnies and entertainment every waking hour during the NFR. That's just not right, imo. They do need better treatment in some regards-
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | My take is that they weren't happy about some recent decisions that the PRCA has made on their behalf and they wanted them to know that. It sounds like they had an idea and the PRCA shot them down. If I was to guess the heads of the PRCA is getting too big for their britches.
And while I am on a theory thought process, how much do you want to bet those big guys have already talked to Vegas and the whole concept that Vegas threw out is one these guys are getting behind.
While I can appreciate the smaller venues not needing the big guys, I think some of the hoopla that surround some of those big rodeos would really die down if Trevor Brazile, Brittany Pozzi, Sherry Cervi, Cody Ohl, etc all started not showing up.
They may not have a bigger game plan (or they may and they just have a great PR person who is telling them specifically what to let out of the bag and what not to) but IMO the PRCA needs to start making some better business decisions.
eta: I do not run pro, I am not involved in any of this or anything like that. Before anyone bashes, I am just commenting. I could be REALLY off base and I know that. These are just thoughts.
For the record, I support the stance where the contestants of the rodeo industry make as much money as possible so we can still watch and/or live the dream...
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | sassy&tessa - 2014-01-07 8:21 AM My take is that they weren't happy about some recent decisions that the PRCA has made on their behalf and they wanted them to know that. It sounds like they had an idea and the PRCA shot them down. If I was to guess the heads of the PRCA is getting too big for their britches.
And while I am on a theory thought process, how much do you want to bet those big guys have already talked to Vegas and the whole concept that Vegas threw out is one these guys are getting behind.
While I can appreciate the smaller venues not needing the big guys, I think some of the hoopla that surround some of those big rodeos would really die down if Trevor Brazile, Brittany Pozzi, Sherry Cervi, Cody Ohl, etc all started not showing up.
They may not have a bigger game plan (or they may and they just have a great PR person who is telling them specifically what to let out of the bag and what not to) but IMO the PRCA needs to start making some better business decisions.
eta: I do not run pro, I am not involved in any of this or anything like that. Before anyone bashes, I am just commenting. I could be REALLY off base and I know that. These are just thoughts.
For the record, I support the stance where the contestants of the rodeo industry make as much money as possible so we can still watch and/or live the dream...
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Location: The edge of no where | The page has BLOWN up this morning.... didn't have 8,000 when I woke up, and it's already over 10,000.
It will definitely be worth keeping an eye on. The people listed are legit, looked around on fb for a few min and it's being liked and shared by several that were at the NFR and quoted on the page.
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Location: Deep South | sodapop - 2014-01-06 10:53 PM
How can this be verified as true? Couldn't anyone create this page & add the info to it? Are any of the people listed posting it on their facebook pages as well?
I only saw it because Luke Branquinho shared it on his page. |
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Location: Texas! | JagsLuck - 2014-01-07 12:15 AM WYOracer - 2014-01-07 12:48 AM Soooo the girls are skipping out on the WPRA?? This whole thing seems confusing and the way the notice was written just sounds like a new organization for the who's who of rodeo? OY vey... I didn't see anything in regards to the wpra, Just prca. But like many have stated it's early. Will be very interesting how it all unfolds in the coming weeks... Kind of exciting: )
Well there are WPRA cowgirls listed so that's why I was wondering? |
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | The link doesnt work for me? Is there another one I can check out? |
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Location: Utah | phoenix - 2014-01-07 1:13 AM Interesting........... Just hope the "Big Guns" don't set something up that mainly benefits them and forgets about the "little guys." They need to remember that those little guys and rookies help pay a lot of entry fees into the pot that make the rodeos pay even better for everyone. JMHO...........
This is what my husband and I are talking about. Not everyone has the ablilty to rodeo full time and the small town rodeos that are PRCA need the circuit contestants also. I hope the top cowboys/cowgirls remember the permit holders and card holders that help build the purses and give a starting point to get to the top 15. |
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| Calangelo - 2014-01-06 10:24 PM It says a whole lot of nothing, they are uniting to form a new organization, yet no details?
I think it says quite alot actually. It says "we're mad as he## and we ain't gonna take it anymore"....actually they said it in the nicest of ways but that's basically what it says. You have to realize that the Cowboys/Cowgirls can, with time and effort, come up with an entirely new associaton/business partnership and don't NEED the PRCA to do it. The PRCA, however, NEEDS the top cowgirls/cowboys to do anything...without them the PRCA is nothing. |
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| bennie1 - 2014-01-06 9:42 PM
could be a modern day "Turtles" moment.
Yep, I think this is exactly what it is. Rodeo has changed a bit over the past 75 years, and I think this is exactly what it looks like.
Hubby and I had just commented how we hadn't heard anything on the issue recently, but looks like folks have been working behind the scenes to come up with some thoughts about how things should go forward. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | runs4fun - 2014-01-07 10:30 AM Calangelo - 2014-01-06 10:24 PM It says a whole lot of nothing, they are uniting to form a new organization, yet no details? I think it says quite alot actually. It says "we're mad as he## and we ain't gonna take it anymore"....actually they said it in the nicest of ways but that's basically what it says. You have to realize that the Cowboys/Cowgirls can, with time and effort, come up with an entirely new associaton/business partnership and don't NEED the PRCA to do it. The PRCA, however, NEEDS the top cowgirls/cowboys to do anything...without them the PRCA is nothing.
You are so right. There is a lot of big name cowboys and cowgirls on this list and with that goes a lot of sponsorships and dollars. |
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Location: Deep South | justcruzin - 2014-01-07 10:17 AM
The link doesnt work for me? Is there another one I can check out?
They have updated it to include the name of the page "Support Rodeo Contestants"
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Rodeo-Contestants/18140035206... |
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Location: Texas! | I feel like they should have waited to have their ducks in line before creating the page...no one os answering any questions and speculation is just growing on the page comments. |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | BamaCanChaser - 2014-01-07 9:35 AM sodapop - 2014-01-06 10:53 PM How can this be verified as true? Couldn't anyone create this page & add the info to it? Are any of the people listed posting it on their facebook pages as well? I only saw it because Luke Branquinho shared it on his page.
It is true. I found out about it by visiting with someone on the list. I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
There is a plan. More info will be released when it is ready.
Remember, the PRCA has until January 14 to work with LVE.
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| Thought I read somewhere, they are turning down a 4% increase? How many of you have had a 4% increase in your pay? These contestants have chosen to rodeo, intstead of another job! They've said so many have to get to the NFR to make money? My question is, how many have cut corners, downsized their trucks and trailers, or eaten meals in their LQ trailers, instead of eating out? Oh, and chosen a less expensive jean rather than Q babies?
I dont' see how rodeo can compare to other athletes who draw a salary?
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| How I am understanding this is like the PBR you have your A rodeos (big name top 30 contestants) and you have your B rodeos (us real folks and weekend warriors) The A rodeos only have 30 or so entries and have all the added money the B rodeos we run for the entry fee jackpots. How do the new talents make their way to the top? and how can you say you are the best when you only compete against a limited number of people. |
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